There's a small piece of threaded rod which attaches the endcap to the plastic body. It gave me some resistance when I first tried to remove it, too.
Twist away!
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Limited Run Dewy's and Anakin Starkiller's Qui-Gon Jinn lightsaber sign-up thread!!! PRODUCTION COMPLETE. Photos on pg 13
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There's a small piece of threaded rod which attaches the endcap to the plastic body. It gave me some resistance when I first tried to remove it, too.
Twist away!
JzSnowCrow
New Member
Hard to tell from photos, but is there a significant difference in size or circumference between the Dewy/AS version and Saberz version of the QGJ? I’m just now learning/realizing there are differences due to the sourced references and props for each? So the Dewy/AS version is based off the actual metal/hero and the Saberz was (partly/mainly) based off a resin version, is that accurate? Perhaps some side-by-side shots for comparison?
P.S. Not trying to open up any cans of worms or stir the pot or anything, just looking to learn about the design nuances of each (in comparison).
P.S. Not trying to open up any cans of worms or stir the pot or anything, just looking to learn about the design nuances of each (in comparison).
AnubisGuard
Master Member
As far as I'm aware, both are attempting the replicate the heroes just with differences in opinion about how best to determine the scale of the originals. There was a bit of friendly debate between Dewy and SaberZ in the Dewy/Anakin Obi-Wan replica thread about how big the hero actually was. Dewy/Anakin tend to come down on the side of slightly larger, SaberZ on the side of slightly smaller. Without the actual heros in hand to measure, it's all within margin of error.
Yes, and the Obi-Wan replica was based on a resin stunt casting, of course.
You can see how much longer the Qui-Gon is compared to the Obi-Wan in my photos, which jives with the "That one might be good for Liam because he's taller" comment from the making-of documentary footage.
And, of course, the found parts on the saber would be a constant with which to help accurately scale the replica.
Love the stop watch
moonwalker
Well-Known Member
Ha thanks ! It's an old Heuer stopwatch. I collect lightsabers, but also and mostly old watches haha
ResurrectionBob
New Member
Thank you for the suggestions! I took a couple pictures to illustrate the issue, in case anybody else runs into the same thing. As you can hopefully see, if I tighten the washer to just be flush with the end of the rod, the rest of the emitter is loose and rests in a much lower position. If I screw the washer on all the way, some of the rod is visible.
Between the suggestions so far, I'm wondering which would result in the emitter sitting at the correct height. If I glue the parts, will the emitter sit too high? If I screw the rod in further, will the emitter sit too low? Or is there no difference because the gluing option would also result in the rod being screwed in further? (Reading Gregatron's post again, I think that might be the case.)
Looking at a couple reference photos of the prop, it seems like everything's in the right position in my second picture other than the rod, but I figured I'd check before doing anything hasty and messing up my new toy...
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Unless the rod is somehow cut to the wrong length, this seems pretty weird.
The whole point is that the washer threads onto the rod, which then allows the bezel and rod to be tightly sandwiched in place around the plastic body of the saber when everything is screwed together properly.
The rod should definitely not be sticking out that far from the emitter, as on the right side of your image. It should be seated into the plastic saber body, and then the washer screwed down onto it.
Or, as I did, glue it into one assembly, ensuring that everything seats properly, with the rod being flush to the washer.
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Nick based the Saberz Q replica on his production used stunt saber. Ours was scaled using photogrammetry based on high resolution images of the original hero prop, anchored to my real found parts red buttons (and the various other found items). The issue with resin castings is they shrink:
(Sorry for the potato quality photo)
For the Obi TPM, Starkiller and I used his production made casting for relative sizing of features. For example the diameter of one section is x% larger than the adjacent section. The absolute size was determined with photogrammetry just like it was for the Qui Gon.
You should be able to screw the threaded rod into the saber body some more. If you have some soft jaw pliers, those would work well.
Thanks for the explanation. I was surprised when I first held mine because it felt a little bigger to other Qui Gons I've held before. I assumed it had something to do with this
AnubisGuard
Master Member
The only other Qui-Gon I've ever handled is the Larbel, which is even larger than this version. I was surprised at how skinny this is by comparison!
Exactly.
The groundwork was already laid with the previous Obi-Wan project.
With this saber, there are no less than five found/common-part data points with which to properly scale the design—the Covertec knob, the red button, the gasket under the button, the emitter bezel ring (common to several other TPM sabers), and the emitter washer/threaded rod.
I have no doubt that this replica is extremely close to the real thing, if not dead-on.
