Ares X
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I'm not understanding this. What's a BBB?
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I'm not understanding this. What's a BBB?
Fett_Ish
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Ares X
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Is it me or is the Jango helmet slightly different in shape than Boba's? I realize the angle is slightly different in the picture, but Jango's seems more narrow and the grey area in the check indentions on Boba's seems to be shaped a bit differently than Jango's. Is this true to the actual film used prop?
UPDATE: Actually, they're very different in shape. For some reason the guy in the video doesn't see it. I'm seeing many variations between the two, so DN did not use the same mold.
UPDATE: Actually, they're very different in shape. For some reason the guy in the video doesn't see it. I'm seeing many variations between the two, so DN did not use the same mold.
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Ares X
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Oh! So you received the armor? That's a good thing, right?
Yes. Boba's helmet is visibly larger, the cheekbones are shaped slightly differently, the right earcap is mounted differently, the shape of the helmet top is more elongated than round, and that effects how the rear and side skirting of the helmet sits, the brow band is deeper, the "turn signals" are smaller...
Ares X
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I just don't get why the guy in the video was going on about them possibly using the same mold when it is very obvious they didn't. Grab a ruler and check the diameter from the bottom. I bet they don't match in the slightest.
Do you know if the movie prop was this way as well? In some pictures it almost looks like it.
ggriffaw
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These are two replicas made by different companies based on different prop helmets. I don't think we can rely on differences between these replicas to indicate differences in the prop helmets.
I would guess Lucasfilm didn't worry about making every detail of the Jango helmet match the Boba helmet.
I would guess Lucasfilm didn't worry about making every detail of the Jango helmet match the Boba helmet.
Yes. The starting point of the Boba helmet was the top of a baseball batting helmet, turned around back-to-front. I am curious how much was sculpted versus assembled. When I was using my RafalFett templates to gauge what was accurate versus not on the Black Series helmet, I didn't need to adjust scaling at all. The brow band fits perfectly, the visor is, for some reason, an even eighth-inch wider, vertically, shifting the cheekbones and cheeks down the same amount -- but then the bottom edges of those trimmed to make the overall height correct. The HBS visor is the same width as the original, but centered, where the original was offset to one side by about an eighth of an inch. Most curiously, the rear skirt, if the bottom edge had been even all the way around, is also accurate, but on the original, it looks like it got glued in to the brow band a little to high on the left side, which pulled it in on that side, and then the earcap adjusted to fit. The sort of that that likely wouldn't have happened with an actual sculpt.
Anyway, that batting helmet has a distinctly rounded shape, like a fat, stubby egg. Jango's was sculpted from scratch (possibly 3D modeled, I'd have to go back and check). Looking down at the top, it's almost perfectly elliptical, shaped to fit what hatmakers call a "long" skull shape. I have to get my hats blocked for that very reason. Many, as they come, dig into my forehead, but gap above the ears, unless they're stretched and formed to fit. I'm assuming that was deliberate on Lucasfilm's part, after Tem was cast. They definitely made the armor and helmet to fit him, rather than making it first and hoping whoever they found to stuff in it would fit. Jeremy Bulloch was 6'1" at the time ESB was filmed, and he still looks like a bobblehead in that bucket. I can see George wanting a helmet that better visually fit the person wearing it, especially as Jango had more of a role in AOTC than Boba did in ESB.
Ares X
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I like the information that you have here, but I can definitely say that Jeremy Bulloch has NEVER been 6' 1" in his life. I have met Jeremy and his wife Maureen many times in the last 30 years and I am 6' 2" and I have always towered over him. In fact we were part of his last time doing public appearances and he ended up doing a photo with our Mandalorian Merc clan here in the Phoenix area. He referred to my wife as a dark vixen, which she ended up taking as her Mando name. IMDB has him listed at 5' 9", which seems about right to me. I can't imagine he lost 4" within his lifetime. I have never thought of him as a tall person.
In this picture, I am the tall one in the back very bent over.
Here's a much older picture of him. I forget exactly when it was, but the oldest kid on the left will be 32 in two months. Again, I am in back and much taller than Jeremy and my wife is only 5' 5" and Jeremy is not that much taller.
Jeremy signed under my mythosaur tattoo with the agreement that I would not go get it permanently tattooed.
And just because I mentioned it, I thought I would share one of (if not the) final public photo shoot he did. I was so thrilled to be a part of this. I am on the far left with a patch over my right eye and my wife is sitting in front of Jeremy. In this photo Jeremy is sitting on a stool.
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Hey, I'm going by his claim that in 1979, he was 6'1". I know actors often inflate that, but one can only do that by so much and get away with it. And the costume was fitted around Alan Harris, who was 6'2", and I can't imagine a much smaller actor being put in it and still having it hang right. *shrug* First time I met him was in '03, and, at 6'1" myself, I was taller than him then, so I'm not arguing his later height. He was in his mid-30s when filming ESB, so theoretically peak height range. Not sure how much he might have lost over the following quarter-century, but, from how much my dad's lost, and how much my granddad (other side of the family) lost, I can definitely see him being at least 5'10" or 5'11" and getting away with claiming to be 6'1".
Ultimately, my point is that he was taller in 1979 than Tem in 2001, and even then the Boba helmet is huge on him. Not that it looked much smaller on Alan...
Ultimately, my point is that he was taller in 1979 than Tem in 2001, and even then the Boba helmet is huge on him. Not that it looked much smaller on Alan...
Okay here goes. My apologies if I am repeating anything.
I am the proud owner of a Bobamaker full ROTJ Boba and a Bobmaker Jango. Even he did not nail the Jango.
I preordered this and will likely sell it as the visor is way!!!!!! to wide.
The Jango helmet is a pain.
Publicity shots make it look like the visor is narrower than the Boba.
When holding his helmet as Mace has his saber to his throat there is a good shot of it. The visor is the same as Boba's but possibly less deep.
There is a great shot for a split second before he torches Mace and you get a great shot. Hard to see if the flare matches but you can see the visor is exactly like Boba's. Not to narrow, not to wide. The Goldie Locks of Visors.
The horrible stunt Jango helmet looks squished in from the sides. After the torch Mace scene when they switch back and he shoots that Jedi he already has the squishy helmet so they can't say it was from being runover by the CGI beast thing.
The CGI Jango in the conveyer belt scene was,...well,..CGI.
The early scenes are to brief, or dark to see much.
The Kamino scene is the one and if you study the film it's basically a Boba Fett Helmet. The flaring (I think), visor width, everything just screams Boba.
The shots on the website first looked like the visor was too wide and then I watched the actual movie and they pretty much nailed it.
Then the final product was this and I am sad to say the bottom section being way too wide ruins it.
My opinion only of course.
Everyone is entitled to look at all the evidence and then decide that I am right.
I am the proud owner of a Bobamaker full ROTJ Boba and a Bobmaker Jango. Even he did not nail the Jango.
I preordered this and will likely sell it as the visor is way!!!!!! to wide.
The Jango helmet is a pain.
Publicity shots make it look like the visor is narrower than the Boba.
When holding his helmet as Mace has his saber to his throat there is a good shot of it. The visor is the same as Boba's but possibly less deep.
There is a great shot for a split second before he torches Mace and you get a great shot. Hard to see if the flare matches but you can see the visor is exactly like Boba's. Not to narrow, not to wide. The Goldie Locks of Visors.
The horrible stunt Jango helmet looks squished in from the sides. After the torch Mace scene when they switch back and he shoots that Jedi he already has the squishy helmet so they can't say it was from being runover by the CGI beast thing.
The CGI Jango in the conveyer belt scene was,...well,..CGI.
The early scenes are to brief, or dark to see much.
The Kamino scene is the one and if you study the film it's basically a Boba Fett Helmet. The flaring (I think), visor width, everything just screams Boba.
The shots on the website first looked like the visor was too wide and then I watched the actual movie and they pretty much nailed it.
Then the final product was this and I am sad to say the bottom section being way too wide ruins it.
My opinion only of course.
Everyone is entitled to look at all the evidence and then decide that I am right.
I think the Jangohelmet is too big and the bottom of the visor is too wide.Thats the problem with the Anovos/Denuo Novo stuff...they can do with the scans whatever they want.Nothing beats a siliconmold.
Synz314
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So the Denuo Jango helmet was definitely scaled up? I know that is a problem I had with the Anovos Din helmet being too big.
Yes...and like you said same with the Mandohelmet.And when I remember right its the same with other helmets like X-Wing pilots.
Thats why I think Anovos/DN are not really replicas...they are costumehelmets with a lineage(3D scan).
Ares X
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Yes...and like you said same with the Mandohelmet.And when I remember right its the same with other helmets like X-Wing pilots.
Thats why I think Anovos/DN are not really replicas...they are costumehelmets with a lineage(3D scan).
Actually they claim they are costumes and not replicas, don't they?
Ares X
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I received the same email yesterday and I would love to jump on it.
Does anyone know how this compares to the Master Replicas fiberglass Phase II helmet? I already have one of those. The biggest problem I have with it is the fact that it's very off white. I really like the look f the DN helmet because it isn't glossy and is weathered.
I got a mega melon 25" head. Yeah, my abnormally large body part is my skull. Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway I don't mind them being made a bit bigger as I have the big noggin, but make it accurate,...Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Synz314
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I have one of Wasted Fett's helmets and that one fits my 24.5" really well. That on is cast from a production made cast. It seems unnecessary to have to scale it up. It's smaller than Boba but not tremendously so. Less wide for sure.
You should be able to fix the visor if you remove and trim the sides of lens. Pinching the visor while you glue the lens back on will make it narrower. It does look way too wide on the Denuo Novo. Although it'll still be too wide if the helmet was scaled up, at least it'll be more proportionate.
I was discussing with Gabe over Facebook all the differences between the Jango and Boba sculpt after he said they looked identical in the video. It's such a huge pet peeve of mine whenever someone claims they are the same sculpt.
Yes...but they have prices like replicas.The Jango for 700 bucks?
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