Deagostini Falcon. Anyone seen this?

as a subscriber the best you could do is issue 14 and the hansolo. 15 wont be received for another 3 weeks so what country do you live in as it is my under standing that the uk got it first and from your picks i only see issue 13 with a prevew of 14

Subscribers had it up to13 last weekend with the free gift. In 3 weeks we'll be just a few days short of issue 16. Newsagents get it before subscribers in the uk. We get it every four weeks. So you can buy 14,15,16 before me and then when 17 comes out in the shops I get 4 copies.
 
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so like i said 14 and 15 are not out yet so please stop causing senseless ripples this model is worth the cost just for metel frame work and what possibility that unleashes
 
My delivery came today. I think Han might be a little too big for the cockpit :) I've not had a chance yet to open the bags to look at the parts.
 
I just don't understand.
If someone says that they do, or do not, like something... why do they have to prove either way?
Let them say what they need to say (or not say). One can process what ever information that is or is not provided.
Then take what information is given and process it for one owns purpose.
Then make a judgement if one thinks it is worth the time/investment or otherwise.

I am very grateful for everyone's views both good and bad on not just this item but many other things as well.

CelticWarrior, thank you for letting us know that you do not like it and I accept your reasons as to why you wish to no longer continue your subscription.
 
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No one ask him to prove anything. What I ask was for a pic of the pieces he didnt liked to see what was wrong with them since I ordered this product. He took it personally started calling names, why? Who knows...if you accept anything said in a public forum good for you, but I would like to see some actual evidence so I can make up my mind...maybe Im crazy.
 
Han Shot First!

or Please Mr. Ford I'm supposed to be here to shoot you!
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For the record he is 200mm or 8inches tall, the same as the 3D scan and ceramic print of my mini me ;o)
 
I have been called a lot worse. lol
Was it called for... no.

I too am curious to see what CelticWarrior is talking about. However, I can wait as I am sure that photos of the parts that he speaks of will be shown by many persons that are building this kit. Then again, I will make a decision once that time comes if I continue my subscription or not. 99.999% sure I will keep my subscription but there is that .001% chance. lol

I have issues 1-10 from the UK and issues 1-4 from my USA subscription (I am no longer getting them from the UK). I can see the color variations in the UK parts. So far the USA parts that I have do not show those variations of color. It does not matter to me anyways as I am doing a full repaint. But those who are not, I fully understand where they are coming from.
 
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AMEN... If I just wanted a Falcon I would have bought a MR when it was out. At least with this one I can build it myself and actually accomplish something! Not to mention modify to my liking! If you don't like the kit, don't buy it... it's that simple. This kit in my opinion is a Holy Grail model. Its the kind of model I've been looking for my whole life and now it's finally here! There's no way I'm missing out on it!



Although I love the MR Falcon, think it's a masterpiece, and hope to have one again I agree with everything you say about the awesomeness of this model.
 
Hey Joe... Right now from what I've seen of the interior parts that HAVE been released (you do know that in the UK they are up to issues 14-15), the only things I would want to replace and/or fix/scratch so far are: The rear cockpit seats, the front console, the back cockpit wall, the interior nav console, the floor decking and maybe the bed above the seats. But then again, I've got OCD and am a perfectionist. The exterior looks incredible. But then again it would since it is being produced off a direct scan of the original model. The interior was never made for the MR Falcon (except a crude cockpit) so all the interior stuff is basically just conjecture on the part of the model makers, so I can understand how the interior (even though it's not perfect to the movie) looks the way it does. I think they tried to make it close to the movie in general, but had to sacrifice detail for ease of building for those that put it together (seeing as many people that have bought this so far have no modeling experience whatsoever). Personally, I am going to enjoy the fact that there are little flaws like this. Makes it alot more fun to accurize and make it look perfect for myself, but then again I've been building and accurizing models since I was 8 years old (yes I'm so old my birthday has Roman Numerals in it). However, anyone building this model will be able to add their own unique flair to it, and even if you've never built a model before, you'll end up with something that will be truly amazing when it's done. I'm truly excited about this. You don't have to buy the printed parts if you don't want to. The parts that come with the kit are perfectly acceptable. The question you just have to ask yourself is just how detailed do you want your kit to be? If you want it completely accurate you can scratch build the pieces yourself, if you have the talent to do so. I know the back cockpit seats can be "modified" from what they are now into something that looks totally accurate to the movie. You just gotta know what you're capable of and how much time and effort you want to put into your build. Tony's Shapeways parts are amazingly accurate to the movie. But then again he's put in alot of time and research into making them so for all the previous iterations of the Falcon (The AMT, Fine Molds, Hasbro, etc). Each of those are in different scales but the nice thing about making a 3D model part is that it can be scaled easily to any other size (unless of course you get too small for it to be printed then you're outta luck). Personally I think it's amazing the amount of research and patience that have gone into something like this. Did you know that it's only been recently that we have discovered the actual scale of the the Falcon kits? It's true. They didn't even know the proper size of the full size Falcon when they built it for the movie. They just had to make sure that it fit into the sound stage. but due to the exhaustive efforts of one man (and a little help from his friends) by the name of Robert Brown, we now know that the actual size of the Falcon is 114' feet from front the back. Which means that now we know that this Falcon is 1:43 scale of the original Falcon (if you took 43 of this falcon and laid them end to end you'd have the length of the full size falcon). It's amazing that it actually took close to 20 years to determine what the length was by calculating the size and taking into consideration the sets that were built. But now we know and it's a glorious time for Star Wars fans everywhere and I am more then giddy and happy to be a part of it! :)
Hey thanks for this I'm a novice builder who is very excited to gather the supplies, extra parts and paint, mod, build and customize this beauty :)
 
Hey thanks for this I'm a novice builder who is very excited to gather the supplies, extra parts and paint, mod, build and customize this beauty :)

Glad to have ya aboard bro. Jus remember, if you have problems or questions... never be afraid to ask. All of us here are always happy to help out novices... we all have different levels of experience and some are better then others, but we each have different methods of achieving the same results. There are plenty of Master Builders here and everyone loves to share tips and tricks of the trade! Don't be afraid to try something new and if it don't work, just clean it up and try again. So welcome to the Falcon owners club my friend!
 
so like i said 14 and 15 are not out yet so please stop causing senseless ripples this model is worth the cost just for metel frame work and what possibility that unleashes

Last time I answer you, I never said 15 was out yet. Some people (not subscribers as we get it last) have 14 as they are pics out there of the second hull wall with doorway. Issue 13 was out last week as I was looking at it in the newsagents.
Im not causing any ripples by saying Im not impressed, I already said people will do what they will with it and I look forward to the modded pics of it but for me its not worth the money hence the Randy Cooper Destroyer comparison (if you didn't read it I said I can roughly get 3 for the price of this Falcon)........and you do realise the way you've written the above looks like Im defending the cost? :rolleyes
 
It says on the description for this model that it will be 11kg (24 lbs for non metric people) when it's finished. That's definitely a fair chunk for a model which will be highly detailed. Does anyone know what the weight is of the MR Falcon?
 
I think most people think we're nuts for even considering this purchase, lol. $1600 is a lot of money and it's more to some and less to others. While I don't want the thread to turn into a complaint forum I think it's fair to say some areas are falling short of a $1600 model(I can't be convinced they did a good job on the cargo area). I also think not providing us with quality pictures of a finished product is questionable. We should be able to see what it looks like without it being customized. I'm a subscriber and I think it's very cool but I think some of the complaints are fair.
 
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I also would like to see to better understand CelticWarriors disappointment in this kit. There's still no Australian release date yet but I would find them useful to see where potential problems are so I can be prepared when I do start my subscription.

Forewarned is forearmed.

I too am curious to see what CelticWarrior is talking about. However, I can wait as I am sure that photos of the parts that he speaks of will be shown by many persons that are building this kit. Then again, I will make a decision once that time comes if I continue my subscription or not. 99.999% sure I will keep my subscription but there is that .001% chance. lol
 
I can understand Celtic's disappointment in the interior. I'm a bit disappointed myself. But then again I also understand why it is the way it is. It's never been done before to this level. At the price they are selling it at I honestly was expecting them to have scrutinized the movies frame by frame to get the interior looking as close to the movies as possible, but it looks more like they relied on the cut-away AMT Falcon interior for alot of the details and just added onto it to give it more of an authentic look. I'm not sure if they planned it that way or just ran out of time before releasing the kit itself. In any event I can understand his concerns and also the thinking behind why it is the way it is. Personally I would have thought they would have spent a bit more time making the cockpit look as close to the movie as possible. I can forgive the hap-hazard seats, but stickers? That just seems a bit lazy. Its alright thou. I'm in on this kit til the very end and plan to get the accessorized parts from Tony's Shapeways collections to make this perfect. That's where half the fun of building comes from. Spotting all the little problems and fixing them. This model will look awesome when it's done regardless of whether or not I accurize it or not. But I can see why he's disappointed that it's not "perfect" to begin with and in a way, I'm a little disappointed too. But at least I know I can fix it.
 
Wow - OK. Miss a day or two and miss a beat down... just my $.02... Dissenting opinions are allowed. Even encouraged... they provide the opportunity for discussion and for people of skill to prove one way or the other the validity of various claims. I look at the Interior of this Falcon as many of you do as well - the opportunity to put my modeling skills to use and make it truly shine. If someone believes that this is not worth the money that's fine don't spend it.

Myself I will happily purchase this kit and delightfully build it with my own enhancements in the form of paint and additional detailing... Personally I think DeAgostini did a great job with the cockpit... with the exception of the chairs... and the interior with the exception of super-detailing and paint. There is a lot of greeblie work to do in there :) . If someone is of the opinion that a $1500 kit should be utterly perfect - this is the wrong place for them... it does not make them wrong... it means that they should stop buying an item that they will ultimately be unhappy with... a good choice for them... just not the choice most of us make due to our nature.

Please lets focus on the kit and how to make it ultimately cool. If someone continues to bash we can take it to the mods... so far that does not seem to be the case (In my opinion).

For the record I have issues being sent to me from the UK to the US... and I subscribed to the US version. The Parts do have some issues with the consistency of the weathering and color of the paint/plastic. The detailing on the parts, as far as what they look like - is top notch... In My Opinion. A repaint and weather and this will be BETTER than my MR Falcon, if the rest of the 90% of the model remains at this consistent level. the fact that it comes in pieces like this should make super detailed painting of this a breeze... and I'm totally looking forward to it!

Jedi Dade
 
I think part of the problem is that compromises have been made so that a novice with little modeling skills can build this kit.A novice who is a Star Wars fan and cant afford a prebuilt Falcon can build a reasonable model (from what I have seen so far) without a lot of modeling skill. I suspect some of these guys may just leave the panels on so the interior is hidden if it doesn't come out OK. For the more advanced modeler there is enough there to easily add detail either scratchbuilt or with aftermarket parts. I think it would be virtually impossible to create a kit that would make everyone happy. If you look at the partworks offered by DeAgostino they vary from large scale car models and RC that basically just need to be screwed together to large scale train kits that demand some modeling experience and wooden ship kits that are extremely demanding unless you have a lot of modeling skills.I am sure a more detailed interior could have been built along with fiber optics for all the lit sections, but would that have put off some people from buying the kit? Sure it is expensive, but it is less than 1/3 of the cost of the Lego Falcon and still much cheaper than scratchbuilding.
Just my $0.02
 
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