Deagostini Falcon. Anyone seen this?

Cool, Ill go lump sum because im not 14.....in fact im not getting any younger hahah.

So that brings up another question.....What happens if a person is at issue 30 and they release the rest of the model at a lump sum? Or you miss an issue? This whole build at time thing is a little confusing.
I think both jaitea and you have hit it on the head wrt the concerns, and tron god every time I look at the parts with each issue I know that in two years there is a lot of us will look back at this and wish we signed up, me included. There is also the case that I don't personally know anyone who stuck with a deagostini series to the end, do they complete ? Will they stop half way through ? Etc etc ....... There are major pros for inexperienced stratchbuilders or gentlemen builders (who don't want their houses covered in plastic shavings ) and cons for the more experienced collectors, this will be an interesting ride..... I did contact them regarding older series , and while they have them in stock you can still order them, so we all have some time to decide, fun times ........could be the one that got away.
 
I’d like to make some observations if I may:

I actually picked up a Hasbro from Argos ,at twenty two quid I wasn’t going to argue and at some point I imagine I’ll do a VERY battered version of the Falcon,or if not the ship itself then some version thats fun. Whilst it’s a pretty good and cheap ESB version and I can see why people are going to be doing A LOT of work converting it to get it anything like studio screen model, I’ve had to wonder why they have brought it out now and why its been made actually just so ever so slightly undersized, when they could so easily have made it a one to one.
And then of course I realized that Deagostini as a company would not have been keen to have a model that, for such a hugely cheapenned price, could be easily and massively improved by swapping out parts from their kit to fit on and into it. Which is also probably why the Hasbro is a limited release and uncomplicated. They could have made a better and more acurate version but I guess that wouldn't have hit the shops at the right time AND would have been significant competition for the Deagostini version.
Interestingly Argos have cut priced it to clear from £29 to £22 and it appears to have sold out just about everywhere around me and apparently it won’t be restocked ever again. Why?
And then I thought, well its just no coincidence at all that the teaser trailer ALSO happened to include a virtually finished effects shot of the Falcon swooping around at the same time that both the Hasbro, then the revamped Deago Falcon were subsequently available to release for sale at virtually the same time. The fact there has also been a significant upgrading in the accuracy of the V2 after the rather negative feedback for the early V1 parts also shows how quickly they have moved to capture the strong demand for this from the fan marketplace and I would think the main reason we haven’t seen a fully finished version is they simply haven’t been able to remodel all the adjusted new parts for it quickly enough.
I had a chat with my nearest major stockist as part two is out now, and was told it had been a pretty successful initial release with just a few copies of No1 returned. She wouldn’t give me exact sales figures but she said it was well into the dozens, very much higher than was usually the case for one of these mags, and they had been asked for it frequently. Of course a lot balked at the total cost of building it over the two years, but there was still a lot of interest, far more than they‘d normally get. A bit to early yet with issue two out to tell just how big but she'd let me know. She also reckoned they’d get a lot nicked at that the new increased priced, so it might disappear from the shelves of a lot of newsagents as time goes by, which is understandable.
And I have to say the issue 2 V2 Cannon cockpit hull part dimensionallly is again very close to the MR part, even down to the paintwork, which again can be significantly improved by even small bit of work by a moderately talented airbrusher. A bit of work on it and it would be pretty hard to tell the difference at all.

Like others I’m not impressed by the interiors nor anything else that goes with the release, but the landing gear down options looks very good. The parts so far are much better than anything else that is currently available and if you ARE looking for something that matches an MR Studio Scale ESB version being released in the immediate future, this would seem to be it. I doubt you will see a studio scale version of the original trilogy models released again.
Its whether you want to play the waiting game and get it in the “build in one go” , or subscribe, its the choice you’ll make and have to bare. However.
I have no doubt at all that several versions of the new Millennium Falcon; The Force Awakens will be made available in the future. That’s probably why a lot of the side walling detailing ,the new radar and things like the small painting changes have been made. Why?
The CAD files for it (as well as many of the models and character we will see in VII ) will make hitting the release date in time for Xmas this year far easier than ever, and I know we will see a huge amount of film referenced toy/model merchandise available prior to the films release in time for Xmas rush to hit the sales peaks. Then and shortly after.
Its also probably WHY we have seen the release of both the Hasbro AND the Deagostini kits of the older versions of the Falcon NOW. This effectively allows the market to have mopped up the available merchandising demand from the old school Falcon fans before the newer versions are released later maybe this and but most probably next year. Will it be studio scale though ??? if that term could be have said to apply to a CAD model.
I’m just guessing mind you, but don’t you find it odd that Deagostini release this ESB version now, instead of logically next year just after the new film is released? And doesn't it seem to have been a bit rushed out? That also Hasbro produced an ever so slightly but" inconveniently smaller " than SS version limited release just before the trailer hit.
Food for thought.
 
The way I look at it I'm more of a modeler than a collector... I want the pleasure of building (and correcting) the DeAgostini. I've already (stupidly since I have not seen the parts) starting thinking how to correct the hull overhang... its because I'm a modeler... and a Falcon Nut. I have not see anything on the DeAgostini falcon that I would be hesitant to tackle. I have a STRONG feeling that I'm going to like/enjoy my DeAgostini more than my MR Faclon. If for no other reason that I can play with it more :D.

Being a falcon Nut I also have the new Hasbro. I'm gong to accurize that bad boy and use it to perfect my painting before I repaint the DeAgostini ;)

I guess my point is that be happy that its coming out - be happy that its close - and be happy that you can make it "perfect" realizing that "perfect" is slightly different for almost everyone.

Jedi Dade
 
Mines a XL. It way undersized as Yorkie said.


That's interesting. My large fits like a standard large or even bigger. I'm 6' with a 41" chest & 32" waist and it's way too big! Maybe they used a mix of different brand t-shirts with inconsistent sizing. Shame, as its a really nice shirt.
 
Am I right in the thinking the main worry as to the quality is the plating issue, and whether this is going to be typical of the rest as there are no finished pics?
Do we trust them?
Also I noticed the plating issues are replicated on the blueprint and the other side is drawn perfectly, so is this the best preview?
 
I think the negativity is stemming from not knowing what the end product is going to look like. Considering the investment De Agostini have put into this and the fact they have had the MR founder as a consultant using his own MR Falcon as a reference I’m hoping this negativity will prove unfoundered.
 
Am I right in the thinking the main worry as to the quality is the plating issue, and whether this is going to be typical of the rest as there are no finished pics?
Do we trust them?
Also I noticed the plating issues are replicated on the blueprint and the other side is drawn perfectly, so is this the best preview?

Speaking of the blueprint, its worth noting that the F1 Elf parts are correct on this......while the MR got it wrong,....so thats a positive thing

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J
 
as someone quite rightly pointed out else where, there seems to be a lot of negativity regarding a model that's only into issue 3, and by people where the subscription is not even available in their country yet.

we have yet to see any other finished parts for this subscription or indeed a picture of the finished model, I for one am very excited by the prospect of not only eventually owing a studio scaled model but building it, and while building it learning about modelling by putting right any inaccuracies.

The Positive for me far out ways the negative so far with this subscription.
 
I think this thing will be amazing,
I think it will be insane accurate,
I think I will regret it but.....

I'm going to stick to my £30 falcon and although we'll compare when I'm finished and I'll sigh a little....... I'll still have £860.
I can build maybe fifteen/twenty more projects with that money :) I need more robots.
 
I think this thing will be amazing,
I think it will be insane accurate,
I think I will regret it but.....

I'm going to stick to my £30 falcon and although we'll compare when I'm finished and I'll sigh a little....... I'll still have £860.
I can build maybe fifteen/twenty more projects with that money :) I need more robots.

This is going to eat away at you until you finally push that subscibe button. Maybe not tomorrow, maybe not next week, but it's gonna get you!
 
They used the same boxes as whats on the 32" studio model.

Yeah they did, but they positioned them toeing in quite a bit with the mandibles, they are meant to be running almost parallel

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This is an image printed inside the first issue of the DeAgostini Falcon magazine,......which is probably an image of the Master Replica Falcon with the boxes mis-alligned....I drew the red lines over to highlight

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.....but as I said in the last post,....it looks like DeAgostini have noticed this error, as the correct alignment is drawn in the blueprint:D

J
 
I think this thing will be amazing,
I think it will be insane accurate,
I think I will regret it but.....

I'm going to stick to my £30 falcon and although we'll compare when I'm finished and I'll sigh a little....... I'll still have £860.
I can build maybe fifteen/twenty more projects with that money :) I need more robots.


You will join us in the subscribed world as more and more pieces come out.

Imagine a MR Falcon at original retail price.

You will join us.
 
now that the new hasbro falcon had come out, i figured i wouldn't buy the deago, mostly due to cost, but ive changed my mind. if this thing has lights plus interior, its deffinately worth it, especially after looking at the MR prices, this is a bargain for what you are getting.
 
Yeah they did, but they positioned them toeing in quite a bit with the mandibles, they are meant to be running almost parallel

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This is an image printed inside the first issue of the DeAgostini Falcon magazine,......which is probably an image of the Master Replica Falcon with the boxes mis-alligned....I drew the red lines over to highlight


J


This is not the best pictures to make a comparison. You will notice in your pic of the original Falcon, the mandibles look almost parralel due to parallax.

The pic of the MR is not the same angle nor taken with the same lense and focal.

The Ford F1 box toe in on the original 32" MF, maybe not as much as they do on the MR or the De Agostini (those are clearly off) but they are far from being parallel.

Here's an almost perfectly straight view of the top of the original 32" MF :



The starboard Ford F1 box toes in almost as much as the starboard mandible does, the port one does not toe in that much.

In any case those boxes are parallel to each other.
 
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Cool Julien,.....very hard to get a top view like that,.....my only defence of what I said was 'almost parallel'.......the MR's top view (if thats what it is) in the DeAgostini looks a hell of a lot toed in compared to that

Thanks Julien,.....that image is priceless

John
 
Cool Julien,.....very hard to get a top view like that,.....my only defence of what I said was 'almost parallel'.......the MR's top view (if thats what it is) in the DeAgostini looks a hell of a lot toed in compared to that

Thanks Julien,.....that image is priceless

John


John, yeah it's hard to figure, looks like the ILM guys didn't really know how to glue them, if they should do parallel to the center line or to the mandible inner edges. They went for a mix of both haha It looks like that place was rushed, looked at the 222/223 parts... one is glued between the 2 Tee/rods, the others is coloser to the inner edge and have been trimmed to goes under the Tee.



I'm wondering if they are going to reproduce that !
 
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