TronGod
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My guess will be $52 bucks or more a month
Deagostini Falcon. Anyone seen this?
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Jaitea
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TronGod
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Well..I can't say the gun turret looks to be chrome...so its not the default paint job
Jaitea
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Hmmmmm.......the video above by the guy who was collecting the test magazine parts connected the new quad to the V1 turret,.....which looks completely different to the turret on the questionable pic,......now perhaps the V1 turret slid into a piece which gave it a sloped wall????
The box at the front of the window is different so my conclusion is the image of the Falcon in Guy's pic is V2
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"the Dodgy image" - at least the slanted sidewalls of the turret are correct 
Well I secured a source in the UK to import the issues for me. I will also get one from the US distribution when it pops. I think the interior looks cool but needs to be "dirtied up". The Exterior looks like it needs a repaint. but I will reserve judgment on it until its in my hands. It looks like a GREAT project I am VERY much looking forward to it.
Jedi Dade
Well I secured a source in the UK to import the issues for me. I will also get one from the US distribution when it pops. I think the interior looks cool but needs to be "dirtied up". The Exterior looks like it needs a repaint. but I will reserve judgment on it until its in my hands. It looks like a GREAT project I am VERY much looking forward to it.
Jedi Dade
TronGod
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To be honest..I'd rather the thing be cheaper by not having the inside..I know I will look at the insides 1 or 2 times and then never bother again"the Dodgy image" - at least the slanted sidewalls of the turret are correct
Well I secured a source in the UK to import the issues for me. I will also get one from the US distribution when it pops. I think the interior looks cool but needs to be "dirtied up". The Exterior looks like it needs a repaint. but I will reserve judgment on it until its in my hands. It looks like a GREAT project I am VERY much looking forward to it.
Jedi Dade
Jargonking
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A couple of hours work and I've assembled the guns....
Sanding the mating faces of the breech assembly reduces the gap between the parts but I then had to open up the groove a little more in each piece to allow the cradle to move....
The faces were sanded by rubbing each part on a piece of 240 grit wet and dry....
In addition to the gun barrels being loose, this piece from the top of the breech can be prised off and cleaned up...it was reattached using super glue....
The ends of the barrels were drilled out with a pin vice...
Breech assembled and barrels test fitted...I'll glue them in after painting....the three brass screws have a very fine thread which means they have to be tightened quite a long way before they finally stop.....
Just waiting for my next two issues to arrive...hopefully tomorrow....
Sanding the mating faces of the breech assembly reduces the gap between the parts but I then had to open up the groove a little more in each piece to allow the cradle to move....
The faces were sanded by rubbing each part on a piece of 240 grit wet and dry....
In addition to the gun barrels being loose, this piece from the top of the breech can be prised off and cleaned up...it was reattached using super glue....
The ends of the barrels were drilled out with a pin vice...
Breech assembled and barrels test fitted...I'll glue them in after painting....the three brass screws have a very fine thread which means they have to be tightened quite a long way before they finally stop.....
Just waiting for my next two issues to arrive...hopefully tomorrow....
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Jaitea
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If the 'Dodgy Image' is V2,....there could be a bit of work to try & make this Falcon accurate,.....unless the collection is a V3???
The window frames on the cockpit look completely off & even worse when the windows are in,.....this cockpit here looks like a toy.....some details that are supposed to overhang don't:
Going by the images in issue one, on the cover there is an overhang of the hull to the mandible,.....but something wasn't right,.....the F1 Elf boxes on the hull are toeing in with the mandibles when they should run out pointing out level:
Heres the image of the front cover compared to the 32' model used to advertise the DeAgodtini:
.....as the famous saying goes "I have a bad feeling about this",.....my opinion is if anyone thinks they will possess a 32' replica as good as the Master Replicas Falcon they will be disappointed,....looking at this front end image the FineMolds model ticks more boxes than the DeAgostini
J
The window frames on the cockpit look completely off & even worse when the windows are in,.....this cockpit here looks like a toy.....some details that are supposed to overhang don't:
Going by the images in issue one, on the cover there is an overhang of the hull to the mandible,.....but something wasn't right,.....the F1 Elf boxes on the hull are toeing in with the mandibles when they should run out pointing out level:
Heres the image of the front cover compared to the 32' model used to advertise the DeAgodtini:
.....as the famous saying goes "I have a bad feeling about this",.....my opinion is if anyone thinks they will possess a 32' replica as good as the Master Replicas Falcon they will be disappointed,....looking at this front end image the FineMolds model ticks more boxes than the DeAgostini
J
One of the main problems with the DeAgostini Falcon from the start is that we have NEVER really seen the actual model. During the initial release they were using images of an customized (repainted & decal'd) Master Replicas Falcon (which is also, I believe, the one being shown on the magazines). On the website it is just a 3D render of the falcon, not the actual model.
They released a few parts that were then replaced with upgraded parts during the next release. So, as of yet we have no real reference for what it will look like yet, other that the latest 'dodgy'' images showing the interior, which does seem to show 'v2' parts.
I for one would like to see an official image of the actual completed kit as it would look finished, Just so I could see if it would be worth the price.
They released a few parts that were then replaced with upgraded parts during the next release. So, as of yet we have no real reference for what it will look like yet, other that the latest 'dodgy'' images showing the interior, which does seem to show 'v2' parts.
I for one would like to see an official image of the actual completed kit as it would look finished, Just so I could see if it would be worth the price.
TronGod
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However wrong this model is....it's way better than spending $7,000 on ebay for a MR one
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Whatever is wrong..I'm sure TONY will make us new shapeway parts to fix it!
Jaitea
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Y'know you could be right about the front cover,....the MR Falcon has the same inaccuracy as this image regarding those F1 boxes.....that matches the other top image I posted......which worsens the situation as you say....really the only image we have of the model is the 'Dodgy" image with the bad cockpit frame & no overhang
The Web image is an official LFL image of the Falcon,....it has been cleaned up and there are little flaws....BUT is still valid for pointing out the problems with the Falcon on the cover of the mag
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Neo-uk
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They might be ok for spoiled kids or people not that bothered about how accurate it is.
I think things so far point to this not being a good idea for the discerning collector.
Also what has to be considered is the fact that I don't think these type of magazine build-a-bit-at-a-time things have a good track record of going the full term.
I think things so far point to this not being a good idea for the discerning collector.
Also what has to be considered is the fact that I don't think these type of magazine build-a-bit-at-a-time things have a good track record of going the full term.
Can you expand on the last statement? The 'build at a time' scenario is new to us Americans, but Ive seen it for years in Europe. Has Deagostini dropped the ball before? Also, Ive seen their US website.....you can order the whole model (Mclaren F1) for a lump sum. Does that mean the whole model shows up or you still have to wait month after month.
Regardless, I like that this is build-able model that you can take apart and put back together. IE if you dont like a certain part, pull it off and replace with suitable greeblies.
TronGod
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I agree we may not have actually seen what this final model looks like...its possible the parts are still being adjusted as they go. I can't also help but wonder if some people aren't eager to trash this model a bit too soon,unless it's a way to talk themselves out of ordering one.... As long as the model is the right proportions it should be easy to make a new part .to replace a wrong one. The USA web page does in fact have 2 options for a lot of their models...1 lump sum,get the whole thing, or 2 a bit at a time. I would suspect the falcon will go to LUMP SUM option after a bit.
Cool, Ill go lump sum because im not 14.....in fact im not getting any younger hahah.
So that brings up another question.....What happens if a person is at issue 30 and they release the rest of the model at a lump sum? Or you miss an issue? This whole build at time thing is a little confusing.
So that brings up another question.....What happens if a person is at issue 30 and they release the rest of the model at a lump sum? Or you miss an issue? This whole build at time thing is a little confusing.
What? are you saying the MR Falcon had some problems? Blasphemy! If the Deagostini offers Studio scale with 95% accuracy to the MR.....its a no brainer. Hopefully everyone here in the studio scale is keeping an eye on the General Modeling section. Specifically the New BMF thread. Amazing builds are taking shape.....for under $100.
Howard, the undercut is an easy fix, especially for a model that is screwed together. A couple of .5mm spacers on the front panel screws, presto! Or make a cut or two if its one piece.
