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Aren't we bold, calling people liars outright without even trying to figure things out?
hyperballistik said he would offer to show the mesh files to you.
Calling ME a liar is just dumb.
That picture, I know where I got it from, thanks. I really don't understand what you are getting at with that?
I asked YOU if I could give him the pep so he could modify it enough to my liking. You said NO so I explained to him I couldn't give him a pep.

Please focus on asking more relevant questions, instead of mudslinging my thread, by PM'ing Hyperballisitk and jtm....
 
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I am bold because I know I'm right. Lets see.....

1. Purchased the file from me asking if I could send the file to Hyperballistik so he could build it which I said no, I don't condone sharing. I sent the file to you and now Hyperballistik's "friend" pepped the same style helmet which he is building?
2. You state on your thread that you received your refund from Pep and was going to have someone else work on the helmet (after you bought my pep file)
3. Everything you have stated on your threads is about you not being very good at pepping and bondoing so you were going to have someone else pep and bondo for you. If you had someone that would model the helmet also then why purchase the file from me?
4. You also requested I model the chest and back piece not to long ago. If you had a modeler who could model the helmet then why would you pay to have me model the chest and back when you could have them model it for you also??????
5. You posted the GI Joe game model (never mentioning that is what it was) and posted it with a picture of the other helmet after I asked about my pep to make it appear that is where the helmet model came from. Why would you do that if you knew that was the game model?????
6. I never sold the file to Hyperballistik or JTM??????

I can keep going. So you tell me I'm bold!!!! That's the pot calling the kettle black!

It is what it is. I'm done arguing because it's not like it matters. Nothing I can do about it. I've seen these things go on forever. Regardless, good luck with your build but consider me unsubscribed from this thread.
 
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I am bold because I know I'm right. Lets see.....

1. Purchased the file from me asking if I could send the file to Hyperballistik so he could build it which I said no, I don't condone sharing. I sent the file to you and now Hyperballistik's "friend" pepped the same style helmet which he is building?
2. You state on your thread that you received your refund from Pep and was going to have someone else work on the helmet (after you bought my pep file)
3. Everything you have stated on your threads is about you not being very good at pepping and bondoing so you were going to have someone else pep and bondo for you. If you had someone that would model the helmet also then why purchase the file from me?
4. You also requested I model the chest and back piece not to long ago. If you had a modeler who could model the helmet then why would you pay to have me model the chest and back when you could have them model it for you also??????
5. You posted the GI Joe game model (never mentioning that is what it was) and posted it with a picture of the other helmet after I asked about my pep to make it appear that is where the helmet model came from. Why would you do that if you knew that was the game model?????
6. I never sold the file to Hyperballistik or JTM??????

I can keep going. So you tell me I'm bold!!!! That's the pot calling the kettle black!
You've got serious issues, Damn...

1. I had no idea he was gonna have someone pep! And 2. buying your pep was a last resort, since I would have to build it myself! (I know enough about pep files that sharing when not allowed is BAD)
3. When did I say I was going to have someone else pep and bondo those files specifically?
4. See 1.
5. I wasn't trying to make anything "appear", I posted the files Hyperballistik showed me.
6. NO WAY, REALLY? I never gave them a file so I guess we're even.

Why don't you wait for one of them to chime in? Your rant is being directed at the wrong person. I definitely never gave them your files and we have PM's stating how he thought it was weird since the helmet would be so heavily modified anyways!
 
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I sent you a PM to keep it civil but after finding more information I thought that I would make your lies public. The picture of Cobra Commander is from GI Joe Special Ops Online game which can be viewed at GIJOE Special OPS Update Lady Jaye and Cobra Viper - GI Joe News I thought the model seem to be a very low poly model compared to the other helmet file. It's because it's a game model with only a texture added.

Unless JTM designed the models for the game. The file you posted is my file that is slightly altered. You purchased the helmet file and forearms from me then asked if I could send the files to Hyperballistik and I advised you that I only send the files to the purchaser because I do not condone sharing my files so you had him alter my file a little to claim it as someone elses. Then you recently asked me for the chest and back armor for Krake which I started to model for you but will not sell to you. The work was done by me and has been slightly altered and credited to someone else.

Here is the picture of the descrepencies in the files. The red arrows show the descrepencies and I posted a picture of my helmet file for comparison. Let the members be the judge.

Hello, I don't normally join in into arguments but since this is about my file I figure I should. I did model this file from scratch with no base off of your file, I did not know it even existed. I am a friend of hyper and have models a bunch of things for him in the past, such as the mk i ironman helmet. So when hyper asked me to model one for I'm to build, I did. If I had known yours existed I probably would have told them to use yours, it looks pretty good from the two images I have seen of it. The reason there are similarities in the files is because we both modeled the same helmet and that is the only reason. Please do not take this as a shot at you or anyone else, I'm just trying to get rid of any confusion.
 
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Helmet already looks so much better than the first one! It's awesome!


As for the file, I don't know a lot about that type of modeling, but I do see quite a few differences, and you are both modeling the same thing. Of course there are going to be similarities.
 
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Ok since im building this helmet I will let everybody know exactly what happened, When Crabra Comander originally wanted the helmet built he sent me a refrence photo of how he wanted the helmet to look which is the one similar to BlackKaos's file I guess (I personally have never seen BlackKaos file) I had already asked JTM if he could model the helmet for me to build for Crabra, I have proof of these conversations on my Facebook and even here that are well dated before Crabra even purchased BlackKaos file, anyways JTM made the file for me from the reference picture I had sent him, after the model was completed for me I then unfolded it and showed Crabra what I was going to build,( This is the part where BlackKaos is getting confussed)at this time after the helmet had already been modeled Crabra sent me a picture of the game version helmet and asked me if I could make the helmet look like that version and i said I would either have to have JTM model another file for me of that version or do some serious bondo sculpting on the old model, I sent Crabra that comparison shot of JTM's model and the game refrence photo to see the diffrences on what I will have to modify on the pep during the Bondo stages, so what BlackKaos is not understanding is the helmet was never modeled off the game helmet picture. I don't want Crabra Comander being blamed for passing a paid file to me all he did was explain to me how he wanted the helmet to look in the end when finished, I will not and do not plan to use any of BlackKaos's files for this build nor will I in the future, I understand that BlackKaos makes money for the files he produces so therefore Jtm nor I want to interfere with his income and its his right if he chooses to charge for files and protect them from being passed around, but unfortunatly the helmet is a simple helmet to model with limited refrence material so yes the two models will look similar, its just like an Ironman helmet made by several diffrent modelers, in the end they all look similar

So BlackKaos I don't want this turning into a blame war that we stole your work, I don't do things that way, I stepped into this build to correct problems that had been started by a now banned member on the forum, I feel bad for Crabra Comander because all he wants is a Finished suit and his thread has gone all to hell, I assure you Crabra did not send me your file, if you have problems with it please contact either myself or JTM if you must see what JTM used to model the helmet, and yes JTM's file is low poly I always have JTM make files for me with a low poly count because I just use the shape to work off and add the details later in the body work stage, Im sorry they look similar, I know that Crabra has someone building the armor parts for him also, I hope you don't go blaming him that he sent that guy your file also to copy whatever armor pieces you modeled, Those parts are being scrath built but im sure they will look similar to the models that you made because we are all using similar refrence pictures, please get your facts straight before you go onto a thread outright accusing someone of sta=ealing your work, I understand your concerns but this all could of been handled in a diffrent way

The pic I am posting is the refrence photo I sent to JTM to model the helmet with as you can see, in the end there really is not going to be much diffrences in yours or JTM version of the helmet, we did not use the game model helmet for a refrence that hemet was brought up after JTM had already modeled the helmet

Im sorry that this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion

This is the refrence picture we used
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Hyperballistik beat me to it.


When I asked if he had received the files I thought Blackkaos was going to send the file to him. I felt, at the time, that if I received the file I would have ruined it and ended up wasting countless hours so I asked if he could send it to Hyperballistik. It was very bad timing because I was going to a field exercise for a week and couldn't contact anyone. Anyways, long story short, BK sent the file to me and I couldn't find it until I checked my better half's email.
Hope this clears things up, I think it's ridiculous how quick people are to accuse, it may look a certain way, and my wife agrees it seemed odd I would purchase a file, but you have to do a little common courtesy and give me the benefit of the doubt.
 
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Here is the message with date...
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When I asked if he had received the files I thought Blackkaos was going to send the file to him. I felt, at the time, that if I received the file I would have ruined it and ended up wasting countless hours so I asked if he could send it to Hyperballistik. It was very bad timing because I was going to a field exercise for a week and couldn't contact anyone. Anyways, long story short, BK sent the file to me and I couldn't find it until I checked my better half's email.
Hope this clears things up, I think it's ridiculous how quick people are to accuse, it may look a certain way, and my wife agrees it seemed odd I would purchase a file, but you have to do a little common courtesy and give me the benefit of the doubt.

Also please note that I had no clue who Kevin (BlackKaos) was and when Crabra asked me if I had recieved the file I had already metioned to him that I do not know who Kevin is and knew nothing of the file and that I had already asked JTM make me a file and even posted a pic of the file I was going to use, and these are in quotes so they are actually older than the actual date shown on the PM, I understand BlackKaos concern as I would be in the same boat if someone I thought recasted my work or even claimed that myy work was theirs but this is not the case, this whole thing I just a big misunderstanding, unfortunatly the models do look similar so I can understand this whole argument
 
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Crabra Commander, Hyperballistik and JTM

If this is the case then I would like to apologise. I am quick to the gun and defensive when it comes to my work, I'm sure everyone can have some understanding over that. I could have swore 100% that it was my file. The files look very similar and are interperated the same exact way. Most modelers will interperate things different even if it's the smallest thing and everything on both models are interperated the same way (vent, visor lip, fangs and back of helmet) Those pieces even appear to be in almost the exact same place. When I seen the primed helmet I instantly even thought that was my model.

I didn'n mean to outright accuse anyone of the bat and was initially going to send Crabra a PM but when I researched and found the game model it made things appear even more suspicious and I just wrote the comment right there and then. So let me formally apologise to all three people. I hope that you forgive, understand and move past. There is a definitely lesson to learn from this which I have.

Crabra good luck on the build. Hyperballistik the helmet looks really good. So good that I was proud thinking it was my helmet file(I think that is one of the biggest reasons I got so upset).
 
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Crabra Commander, Hyperballistik and JTM

If this is the case then I would like to apologise. I am quick to the gun and defensive when it comes to my work, I'm sure everyone can have some understanding over that. I could have swore 100% that it was my file. The files look very similar and are interperated the same exact way. Most modelers will interperate things different even if it's the smallest thing and everything on both models are interperated the same way (vent, visor lip, fangs and back of helmet) Those pieces even appear to be in almost the exact same place. When I seen the primed helmet I instantly even thought that was my model.

I didn'n mean to outright accuse anyone of the bat and was initially going to send Crabra a PM but when I researched and found the game model it made things appear even more suspicious and I just wrote the comment right there and then. So let me formally apologise to all three people. I hope that you forgive, understand and move past. There is a definitely lesson to learn from this which I have.

Crabra good luck on the build. Hyperballistik the helmet looks really good. So good that I was proud thinking it was my helmet file(I think that is one of the biggest reasons I got so upset).


Thanks for the apology, I believe this all started from a misunderstanding and possibly some miscommunication, I completely understand how you felt especially seeing something that looks almost exactly like your own work, like I said I would be in your same shoes if I seen someone that I suspect is claiming my work as theirs, sorry it got to the level it did, no hard feelings man, and thanks for the comment on the progress on the helmet
 
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No problem Blackkaos,
I do realize it looked suspicious, mostly because I am very new to this whole costuming concept and was rushing to get this build off the ground again.
Apology accepted.
 
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Not to jump off course but the three of you have outstanding character settleing this the way you did and I commend you all. Now back to the build, It's all looking great and I can't wait to see more:)
 
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Giving this a little bump....I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out! Curious as to how the face plate is going to be handled.
 
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Thanks, I'm sure Hyperballisitik is working his butt off to get this done!

In any case, I'm sure I'll be on target for Baltimore Comic Con in September.
 
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Just so you know, I ordered that vest last night from this site...
Weekend Warrior TF3 Vest [JAM659/807] - $97.98 : Reload Airsoft Parts & Gears, The online shop of outdoor stuffs and gears

as they were willing to ship it quicker. (I'm trying to get a costume together before the movie). So if you decide to go with it, try them....they were very helpful and friendly. I will say though after looking at different pics and reviews of it, I'm not sure it's going to work for what you want to do with it. The Molle straps on the front are sewn in, so if you remove them it's going to have vertical lines on the "armor" plates where the stitching was. And, I don't know if it matters, and probably not, but the plates are not a rigid plastic, they are actually a high density foam. So, that does limit your painting options. I'll post some good pics when I get it though. Should be early next week.
 
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That's great Eopie,

I figured the vest wasn't a good match. Luckily I did get someone who will be able to work on the armor and they come recommended by Hyperballistik!

I recieved the khaki pant's yesterday. I was going to purchase RIT dye once my shirt came in to dye them both Navy blue. I also need to paint the plastic kneepads black.
 
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One of these things is not like the other...
Gotta get that dye!
I think the test fitting has shown that the Funtasma boots will be just the right height to match up with the knee pads. Should have more updates soon!
 
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Hope Crabra don't mind me updating his thread with some pics of the progress on his Cobra Commander bucket, all the Bondo work is finished, im just working out little spots here and there with spot putty filler to make it look nice and smooth, so here are some progress pictures

This is the helmet just after the final coat of Bondo, getting ready to massage it out with the spot putty filler to fill in any imperfections in the Bondo, I will have to do this step over and over tisll it looks smooth also had my friend Blackula sculpt the vent frames on the sides with Apoxie sculpt because he was hanging out so I put him to work
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I wanted the vent frames to stick out some so it resembles the vents on the comic book version of the helmet, this pic gives you an idea of how far the frames stick out
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The rest of the pics show where I cut the vent section out so I can sing the vent details in and give them somewhat of a louvered look, im doing this in case Crabra want to install some fans, they will be easy to make functional for cooling vents, once the vents are finished I will give the helmet a final wet sanding and it should be finished, then i will start making the visor buck, this helmet requires a large visor so Im going to have to vacuform the proper shape visor to fit it, I will post that process soon
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Let me know what you guys think
 
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