Boondock saints Props. Any Ideas?

[NoahMacManus]

Re: Boondock saints Props. Any Ideas? Desert Eagle replica

I'm trying to come up with a prop list For boondock Saints. So Far I Have...
-The Irish rosary
-Smecker FBI id badge
-9MM With silencer
-"Rambo" Knife
-Rope
-Ski Mask
- Rocco's Mask
-Pennies
Any other ideas?

I would like to see a correct .50 cal. marked Desert Eagle pistol full weight non-firing replica, with the correct custom triangle shaped, vented silencer attached. The pistols used in the films were marked .44 Magnum, but were supposed to be .50 cal. pistols. Troy Duffy stated in his movie comments that the silencers are not available anywhere, since they were custom fabricated for the pistols in the movie. Plus a real silencer has a $200 ATF Class III tax attached to it besides the original very high cost, making it impractical for a movie replica prop gun which should be around $200 cost tops.

 

[NoahMacManus]

I got two of these toy 9mm pistols at K-mart for $5 each. They have a firing sound, the slide recoils with trigger pulls, and if you pull the slide back it makes a cocking noise. I used them for halloween costume props but they take paint pretty well and they have a pretty convincing look. If you just want to have some cheap guns for a display or something these would do the job nicely I imagine, or something to display with other props until you can get better replicas of the metal variety for that matter.

I apologize for the bad picture, my room is unnaturally dark at night.

Edit:Here's a link to some for sale on Amazon, price is steep there though, but it'll give you an idea of the packaging to look for.
Amazon.com: Combat 9mm Pistol: Toys & Games

Do you know what brand of black Condura nylon, double gun shoulder holsters the brothers used in BDS II? They can't be that expensive, because they are made out of black heavy nylon material, and not leather.

 

[NoahMacManus]

I thought these were made my the same propmaster that made the ones for the movie? How exactly are they inaccurate? I've never seen one in person...

Connor's Rosary is a couple inches longer than Murphy's. Note: Connor's rosary hangs down to his belt, Murphy's rosary hangs down to just above his belt on his lower stomach. You can clearly see this in BDS I when the brothers hang their Rosaries on the wall in their loft apartment, and one is longer than the other.

 

[NoahMacManus]

Connor's Rosary is a couple inches longer than Murphy's. Note: Connor's rosary hangs down to his belt, Murphy's rosary hangs down to just above his belt on his lower stomach. You can clearly see this in BDS I when the brothers hang their Rosaries on the wall in their loft apartment, and one is longer than the other.

Plus I forgot, IL Duce's Rosary is ebony black rather than made of walnut wood.

 

[NoahMacManus]

Great info nexus6.

So if one was trying to make this themselves, would the measurements given in the store be right?

Also how long is the chain? Does a Rosary have a set number of beads? I know people count the beads in prayer but I don't know much about Catholicism...I've never seen a real Rosary so I don;t know these details.

A true Catholic Rosary has 10 wooden beads for the "Hail Mary" prayers seperated by 1 silver, 1 glass, or 1 stone bead for the "Our Father" prayer. Each section of 10 wooden beads seperated by 1 silver or 1 glass bead is known as a "decade". There are typically 5 decades per Rosary or 50 wooden beads and 5 silver, or 5 glass, or 5 precious stone beads. There are usually another 5 large wooden beads on the part hanging down to the crucifix which is usually 2" to 2.5" long or the Celtic cross with this section attached to the center silver or glass bead. The prayers start at the crucifix with 1 Apostle's Creed, 1 "Our Father", 3 "Hail Marys", and 1 "Glory be to the Father" or 6 prayers total. Then finished with the 5 decades of 10 "Hail Marys" seperated by 1 "Our Father", going around the loop of the Rosary. Therefore, a true Rosary has 55 wooden beads and 5 silver, or 5 glass, or 5 precious stone beads seperating each section of 10 wooden beads. The brother's much longer Rosaries (with more beads), and larger 3.5" crosses are Hollywood artistic license for dramatic effect in the BDS movies.

 

[NoahMacManus]

Beretta 92 with a custom surppressor.

.357 Magnum Desert Eagles with custom made compensators. You can tell that they're .357's because they have a groove running down the side of the barrel that is absent on the .50AE model. You also can get a round count of 9 from the scene in the elevator before they take out the mob boss. The only DE with a round count that high, is the .357.

The Russians Desert Eagles in BDS I were clearly marked .44 Magnum and I believe the Desert Eagles used by the brothers in BDS II were .44 Magnums as well, but the engraving on side is hard to read, so I could be wrong. Desert Eagles .44 Magnums with 8 rd. clip and 1 in the chamber is a 9 round capacity as well.

 

[NoahMacManus]

I used the same overall measurements for the cross (height/width) for mine, as it looked just about spot on.

As for the length of the chain, I forgot to post that stuff. :$ I actually didn't try to measure length. What I DID do, was to work out the bead pattern (through more frame-by-frame observation than I care to admit), which ends up being like so:

You'll have to kind of guesstimate the diameter of the beads; I haven't gotten to the building of the necklace yet. Hope this is helpful. :cool

EDIT: MOST rosaries seem to utilize a "center-piece" where the 'Y' of the necklace comes together. I couldn't find any evidence of one on the screen rosaries, although they may have had one. *shrugs*

Great job analyzing the brothers Rosaries. You took so much time doing it, I'm sure this is 100% correct. It looks like there are 2 glass beads on each side of the 10 wooden beads in the 5 decades. Then there are 4 glass beads or 2 extra on each side of the separator wooden beads.

 

[NoahMacManus]

I have to say, I would like to see the custom 9mms that they use. I believe they also used Desert Eagles in .50 AE at some point in the film. And they aren't silencers, IIRC. They're a sort of muzzle brake for pistols, but I can't remember the name right now. A Disperser perhaps?

They are called compensators to keep the muzzles from flying up after firing each round, which makes it easier to stay on target with your aim.

 

[Spartan375]

Connor's Rosary is a couple inches longer than Murphy's. Note: Connor's rosary hangs down to his belt, Murphy's rosary hangs down to just above his belt on his lower stomach. You can clearly see this in BDS I when the brothers hang their Rosaries on the wall in their loft apartment, and one is longer than the other.

A good shot of this can be seen when the Russian mobsters break the door of the... ehm... the place the brothers where living at... :rolleyes

I will check again when i have the HD version, to see what is different in their rosaries.
Yes, i decided to make both rosaries. :cool
(Actually i will have them hanging on the wall, or i will get two couples of Berettas to make a display. )

Murphy's cross also seems to be different than Connor's and vice versa.
The lover and upper parts of Murphy's cross look longer and thiner than Connor's.


And some news, as i have a long time to post.
I made several crosses using a soft wood just to make some experiments and become familiar with cross making.
I now got oakwood and i already made one, which i found to be not very accurate. Not a bad thing though, i will finish this one too so i will have a cross for myself to wear. :cool
Of course i have enough oakwood left to make about eight crosses, and after some time in MS Paint i thing i got it right this time.

We'll see...



NoahMacManus, yes, the Desert Eagles in BS I are .44 Magnum.
Boondock Saints, The - imfdb :. guns in movies :. movie guns :. the internet movie firearms database

In BS II, they are .357 Magnum according to IMFDB.
Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day, The - imfdb :. guns in movies :. movie guns :. the internet movie firearms database


About the rosaries.
Where are the glass beads?
I don't recall anything except one size beads and chain in the holding cell scene, when we can see them clearly. I might missed something or the glass beads where out of the picture? :unsure

I really need to know because i will go and get my beads on of these days.
And thank you for the info!

 

[Nexus6]

About the rosaries.
Where are the glass beads?
I don't recall anything except one size beads and chain in the holding cell scene, when we can see them clearly. I might missed something or the glass beads where out of the picture? :unsure

I really need to know because i will go and get my beads on of these days.
And thank you for the info!

No, the glass beads are out. DEBUNKED.

Just wooden beads & chain. :thumbsup

 

[GrenadeKing]

The Russians Desert Eagles in BDS I were clearly marked .44 Magnum and I believe the Desert Eagles used by the brothers in BDS II were .44 Magnums as well, but the engraving on side is hard to read, so I could be wrong. Desert Eagles .44 Magnums with 8 rd. clip and 1 in the chamber is a 9 round capacity as well.

Yeah, old post but, I gotta' reply to this.

My original comment about a 9 round count was from the elevator scene in 2. In that scene, you can clearly count 9 rounds in each magazine as they load the guns. Only the .357 has a 9 round mag.

 

[Spartan375]

Indeed, GrenadeKing is right about the .357 Desert Eagles.

See the magazine capacities here: Modern Firearms - Desert Eagle :cool


Yes, in both movies the Desert Eagles are supposed to be chambered for .50 cal rounds.

The IMFDB has some interesting info about this.

Before carrying out the hit on the Prudential tower, the MacManus brothers Connor (Sean Patrick Flanery) and Murphy (Norman Reedus) go to an IRA arms dealer to replace their Beretta 92Fs with custom IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIXs with match weights. They are the .357 Magnum version, according to Charles Taylor, the film's armorer, although the script referred to them as .50-caliber models.

Is "Hollywood Ammo" isn't it?
I mean, seven shot pistols fire nine times.



Back to the crosses.

Nexus6, thanks about the info!

I will post a pic about what i have done so far.
Also i will need some advise about stains (just help me choose a color).

About the ring, i was thinking to go and get some pewter, and make some rings by means of casting. Pewter doesn't rust as fas as i know and it can be casted easy, so maybe it will be nice for the crosses? :rolleyes

 

[Krenzy]

Spartan, did you ever finish your rosary? I'd like to see your work

 

[thespidermonkey]

hey guys if you want to find the coat id say look at thrift stores found mine at value village 6 dollars looked it up on ebay buy it now price 200 dollars not screen accurate but close

 

[thespidermonkey]

Ultra Force U.S Navy Type Peacoat hey guys found the jacket exact type im pretty sure looks exact