Meerkat67
Active Member
Well i certainly would not be happy with that response, you could at least let your clients know how long they have to wait...5 year project lolzThen you’ll have to wait.
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Well i certainly would not be happy with that response, you could at least let your clients know how long they have to wait...5 year project lolzThen you’ll have to wait.
Last i checked i don’t owe you anything Meerkat67 so on that note, you can take those pearls you’re clutching and shove em.Well i certainly would not be happy with that response, you could at least let your clients know how long they have to wait...5 year project lolz
I AND MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN WAITING! You don't seem to be doing anything about returning the money you have taken though!Then you’ll have to wait.
I AND MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN WAITING! You don't seem to be doing anything about returning the money you have taken though!
Well, mate, cursing and being mad on people that just ask back what they paid you, is NOT the way to go! Nobody that paid up for this run, is in fault, here! You're attitude is beyond outrageous! Covid is over for over a year now, and nobody is preventing you from looking for a job! I'm one of the lucky ones that got refunded, only because I was a pain in the ass for you. So no, you don't owe me anything anymore, but YES, I will speak up for all the other people in this hobby that lost money in this run. As if nobody else but you has problems! I bet there are people in this run that are also struggling to make ends meet, but YOU have THEIR money now, and basically you are saying: "Well, scr*w you! My problems are far more important than your problems, and the fact that I own money to you doesn't change that! Leave me alone!"
You can use the F-word as much as you want, this doesn't change a thing about the fact that you took hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars from the community, didn't deliver anything, and have a VERY **** attitude towards this situation. You telling people you will pay them back, but at your own pace and conditions, is basically telling them: "Good luck getting any money back! I might pay you back, or I might never be able to pay you back, and then it's your problem."
From my part, you should be banned from the forum. It wouldn't make any difference for the people in the run, because I seriously doubt any of them will see their money. This kind of runs are SO bad for this community. Really... And stop using the "F's"! Only people that have the right to curse here, are the people that lost money.
On your "Owing ,Pending ,Refunded" list in your first edited post there only seems to be 4 people who have been REFUNDED.Second, theres a ton of people that have been refunded in this forum already. I made good on my debt to them, and i will make good on my debt to everyone that is owed. No money has been lost. I always pay my debts.
Talking about blood.....When i can F-ing afford it, you’ll get your F-ing refund!
Until then, you’re squeezing blood from a stone.
I’m out $600.I paid $300 back in the days.
There should be a rule on the forum that says no payments until product is ready to ship and maker funds production from their own pocket. DaveChaos has just done that with a metal Blade Runner blaster and I do that with my ceramic pieces so I think the pre-order / money-up-front business-model should be scrapped entirely. If you can't afford to make something then don't expect others to fund you and hope for the best.Not that this helps the members here who are owed monies, but isn’t there a forum rule as to how long before the refunds are completed due to a cancelled run?
There are 28 that have been refunded that aren’t on the list.On your "Owing ,Pending ,Refunded" list in your first edited post there only seems to be 4 people who have been REFUNDED.![]()
I think it wouldn't be unreasonable to establish a rule that payments couldn't be accepted till a manufactured sample is in hand, it establishes that the due diligence of sourcing manufacturing is in place and the last step would be funding. It would protect both seller and buyer since a seller could bite off more than they could chew, and at least after getting a sample in hand, they'd know whether they'd need to scrap the run or go forward, and buyer gets to see product before committing to purchase.I think this could certainly be discussed. On the other hand I think that some runs might never have happened without this "system". Sometimes all things for a successful run are in place, but only the money is missing. Very respected members here like RelikMaker, Sarednab, etc... do runs where deposits are asked. Never had a problem with them, and if a run takes longer than expected to be delivered, there was always clear communication and the runs never derailed and things were delivered in the end.
Personally I also don't like being in debt with people. I dad a few runs of goldplated Aztec Pirate Coins in the past, and I also paid the goldplater from my own pocket. But we were only talking about a few hundreds of euro's then. I can imagine that it's more difficult to do the same if we are talking about a few thousands of dollars. But then again, I would feel VERY uncomfortable, taking thousands of dollars from people before having something in hand to ship out...