Black Series Helmets - whats next after Boba Fett
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vader45
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Vader again shares no curve with any of the film helmets. Dome is undersized and facd,is to wide
The Stormtrooper is a nice representation of the R1 helmet
vader45
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It's more based on r1
I can see the face being too wide. I am surprised that the dome is undersized though lol I thought it was oversized.
vader45
Sr Member
Nope it is extremely undersized.
ggriffaw
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A full size Vader helmet is pretty big. Most of the cheaper replicas are too small.
Timmythekid
Sr Member
The TK weirdness I was referring to is a much shorter neck opening - it's too wide and the plastic doesn't come down far enough as far as I can tell, then there's the speaker and battery compartment. Looks fine from the front, but the side view and rear view are a little disappointing. Really when I wrote that though I had the Vader in mind, which, yeah, it's just way, way off from dome to eyes, to cheeks, to grills...all of the elements are there, but they're all wrong. It's identifiable as Vader, and the reveal stuff is very cool to be sure, but yeah, just not one angle or line is what it should be, and there's no good reason for it. Still a cool piece for the price, but switching to all-laser scanned or ILM digital assets? Yes please. Would have much preferred an OT TIE, as, while the show is neat, the Mando helmet doesn't really do it for me and feels a little redundant right after the Fett.
There’s probably no chance Hasbro will redo these two sadly. I’d actually buy them. They’re basically still using old molds from MR for their lightsabers. I think the truth is these are made for the not so serious fans who see these helmets in Walmart and go “oh cool I gotta have one of these.” Maybe if they get into a higher end market like a serious collector’s line, like perfect replicas for $300. No gimmicks.
ggriffaw
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There's a very good reason the BS Vader helmet was modified. They couldn't manufacture one at the original dimensions and stay within the cost and size targets. It would have been too big and they would need to sell it for more than they want to sell this series for.
What people are asking for is basically the efx PCR Vader which was sold for considerably more. Hasbro knows what they can produce within the price point they sell the BS helmets for. As soon as it was announced, I expected it to be too small like the previous cheap Vader helmets.
Honestly, I didn't expect the painting on the BS Fett to be as good as it is.
What people are asking for is basically the efx PCR Vader which was sold for considerably more. Hasbro knows what they can produce within the price point they sell the BS helmets for. As soon as it was announced, I expected it to be too small like the previous cheap Vader helmets.
Honestly, I didn't expect the painting on the BS Fett to be as good as it is.
Dontdissthefett
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Hasbro holds a toy license, not a replica prop license. Probably a good thing because the companies that hold replica and costume licenses don’t have a very good track record of being able to deliver product. Is that because there’s a much smaller market with little or no profit? Who knows..
The Vader was disappointing but the market looking to spend $100 on a Vader helmet doesn’t know and doesn’t care what the differences between it and screen used are. The same goes for the Rogue One TK helmet. Both of which may not be perfect but are an amazing value for those fans who’ve always wanted to own a helmet but don’t have or don’t want to spend the $300+ dollars for more screen accuracy.
People need to manage their expectations a little more.
The Vader was disappointing but the market looking to spend $100 on a Vader helmet doesn’t know and doesn’t care what the differences between it and screen used are. The same goes for the Rogue One TK helmet. Both of which may not be perfect but are an amazing value for those fans who’ve always wanted to own a helmet but don’t have or don’t want to spend the $300+ dollars for more screen accuracy.
People need to manage their expectations a little more.
Celtic007
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I wouldn't be surpirsed down the line if they redo a Vader.
The Kylo helmet was the first Black Series helmet and it started at $80.
Vader was $100 and now Boba was $120. People are buying them so they can definitely say "look, we're charging more and they're still selling".
If they made an idealized symmetrical Vader based on the OT helmet and it was a reveal style as well like the current one, I'd pay $150.
Here's a good look at what an ANH Vader would be if made symmetrical
The Kylo helmet was the first Black Series helmet and it started at $80.
Vader was $100 and now Boba was $120. People are buying them so they can definitely say "look, we're charging more and they're still selling".
If they made an idealized symmetrical Vader based on the OT helmet and it was a reveal style as well like the current one, I'd pay $150.
Here's a good look at what an ANH Vader would be if made symmetrical
I already have a Darth Ugly Vader, so I got the Hasbro and just display it without the dome so you can see the reveal stuff. I think it's a great deal for something like that too.
vader45
Sr Member
This is the best I can do as I don't currently own a B.S. Vader. I ended up giving it away.
Two helmets with Lineage
The B.S. helmet.
vader45
Sr Member
I assure you no shapes are close out side of a triangle vent and 2 large eyes with a samari style helmet.
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The chin grille? Can you clarify what you mean?
It's a pretty good match to how cut out the ANH Hero helmets were, which in turn inspired the R1 helmets. I like how much more coverage there is on the underside of the helmet face on the ANH Stunts, and filling all that in and replacing the chin grille with a full-length one was a major point of my mods. But that's personal preference -- the original assets are pretty gaping:
ANH Hero...
R1...
ANH Hero...
R1...
ggriffaw
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The black chin grill is called the vocoder, on the OT helmets it was raised ridges molded into the faceplate. On the R1 helmets it appeared to be tubes that are raised from the surface and attach at the other end. I believe on the BS helmet they are ridges, not tubes separate from the surface. This makes this feature more OT style where other parts are more R1 style.
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