Black Series Helmets - whats next after Boba Fett
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Thank The Maker
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I guess the "electronic gimmick" could be the flashlight in the ear? or some kind of 'red-light-visor-filter' thing to simulate the thermal imaging?
Honestly, I would not be surprised if this is the next BS helmet but I'd still love Boushh or a scout trooper more. Would be interested to see how well they could match the metallic finish on Din Djarins bucket though.
Ackbar16
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Good point. I completely forgot about the flashlight he uses. It’ll probably be the voice changer, but a thermal feature would be cool.
It seems like Mando is going to be the next bucket Hasbro releases. It’ll be interesting to see how they handle the chrome paint. Even if the paint isn’t correct, it’ll hopefully make an excellent base for a repaint.
Definitely getting it to repaint. Their metallics would have to come a long way for it to look right.
Metaphysics
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Yakface mentioned in the comments of the IG post that it's not a repaint.
I do not get the pre-emptive whinging about a Din Djarin helmet being a repainted Boba. They look nothing alike beyond being helmet-shaped and having a T-visor. The earcaps are different, the size is different, the shape of the visor is different, the shape of the lower helmet is different, and so on and so on. It's a lot, lot, lot more than just slapping a mohawk on a Boba helmet and painting it silver.
I honestly hope we get a Sabine helmet at some point, too. With a slight mould mod for the different cheeks, it could be easily re-used for Bo-Katan or her Nite-Owls, as well as the the random person in the Covert wearing one of those helmets.
I honestly hope we get a Sabine helmet at some point, too. With a slight mould mod for the different cheeks, it could be easily re-used for Bo-Katan or her Nite-Owls, as well as the the random person in the Covert wearing one of those helmets.
just curious what was the weirdness on those sculpts?
vader45
Sr Member
The Vader shares absolutely nothing with the screen sculpt.
There was no weirdness with the TK, it was based off of the Rogue One stormtroopers which had an updated design. For what they represented they were very good. The Vader on the other hand...ouch.
I agree... the helmets are obviously differnet and I don't think Hasbro is blind to that. They will most certainly scan the original and build a replica form it. Likely a darn good one - judging form the Boba they just put out.
There are couple of flaws in the Boba that I can see but they are pretty small honestly - nothing that anyone but a obsessive fan would notice...
Jedi Dade
There are couple of flaws in the Boba that I can see but they are pretty small honestly - nothing that anyone but a obsessive fan would notice...
Jedi Dade
Right of course it's symmetrical etc, is it really far off though?
How about the Stormtrooper? Is it screen accurate compared to the Rogue One version?
Id consider it quite screen accurate. The biggest differences I can pick out compared to the movie helmet are the speaker grills on the rear, the lack of mesh begind the teeth and the vents on the side tubes are recessed rather than cut out.
Extremely. The Black Series doesn’t come close to any Darth Vader helmet from any movie. It’s almost cartoonish looking and in my opinion, it’s the worst looking of all the Black Series helmets. The details on the inside are based off ROTJ. But externally it’s Hasbro’s design.
I‘d say about 90%. Shape is also not quite 100% when looking at it from the side. It’s missing a lot of details that are present on the original helmet. Plus that stupid battery compartment and speaker grill just ruin the rear of the helmet.
Here’s a picture of an original Rouge One Stormtrooper helmet:
The trooper helmet is way off completely for ANH screen . It's really just a nice, clean helmet. The real version is wonky, gaps, everywhere. The so called vents are stripes painted on the original. In fact all the details are painted on . White armor has all the details.
Well the Stormtrooper is totally based on Rogue One so it wasn't really trying to be. Personally in person I'd want a helmet to wear to be symmetrical and clean and smooth. But as a prop to collect I'd get something screen accurate to ANH.
For Vader I can understand wanting something really screen accurate, but at least it's full size and not that expensive.
Oh I like my Black Series it's good enough for me..no one would see the differences but me. In the future I'll get a Quasimodo though or something very accurate and verrry glossy.
I just wish the tusks on the BS weren't so plasticy.
They're close. That's about the best I can give them. Besides the already mentioned issues with the lack of frown mesh, non-cut-out-tube stripes, and them unfortunately not taking the time to engineer the battery compartment into the interior and put the speaker somewhere invisible (like maybe behind the chin grille? duh...):
• Forward of the ears, the brow curves up a little, mimicking more the ANH Sandtroopers. The R1 Stormtroopers had a brow line level with the line around the back. This matches the ANH Heroes and the non-over-trimmed Stunts, and is a fix I have performed on my Black Series mods.
• The tube stripes aren't just softly molded in -- they're non-uniform. Probably something to do with preventing binding in the die, but toward the front they start to be more widely spaced and spread apart at the outer ends. This is one of the things I disagreed with most strongly with the R1 helmets. The Phase II Clone Troopers had painted on tube stripes, to echo/evolve into the painted on stripes in ANH. An in-between step where they're cutouts feels like a sour note in Trooper evolution. Plus, how does this take into account the differing numbers of tube stripes in ANH? Or none? I initially redid the slits on my first BS mod -- replicating also the curve the original painted stripes had -- but then my willingness to work with what I consider a bad design call went away and I just filled them. Either way, whether one is looking to make it more R1 like or more ANH like, they're easy enough to fill (and re-cut, if that's your poison).
• The "tears" under the lens surrounds match the shape of the ones on the R1 helmet, and is another design choice I question. Rather than follow the line of the original, the outer corner now is about a quarter-inch further back, to line up with the back edge of the lens surround. Pulling that line up also shallows the outer curve a little. Since it, to me, looks wrong, that's one of the more fiddly fixes I'm performing on my helmets. I made some quick-and-dirty 3D "templates" out of epoxy putty pulled from the tears on the MR CE -- which is a left-side-mirrored scan of the ANH Hero, so it has good lineage for truing up those features. I also have a couple TE2's for reference, but I am pursuing symmetry, and the left tear better matches the painted in details of the originals. I mention this not as something Hasbro got wrong, but as one of the less-well-known R1 design deviations anyone wanting to use this helmet for OT Stormtrooper mods should know about and address.
As far as the differences between R1 and ANH... That's a whole subjective argument I won't get into here. Y'all purists who want your horrible asymmetry and mold damage and rough cutting and assembly are welcome to it. There's enough of the spirit of the ANH helmet in the R1 design that I can work with it, and enough accuracy to the film prop in the HBS offering that I can definitely work with it. I have several helmets with lineage to refer to, and, out of all of that, I aim to make "better than the original" versions of the ANH -- a symmetrical blend of the Hero and Stunt that looks good and feels right and real, up close and personal, inside and out. For the balance between out-of-the-box quality and work needing to be put into it to bring it up to my standards, it is, for me, on par with the Kylo, Poe, Luke, and Boba.
The Vader is just a mess. I have the old Hasbro voice-changer Vader toy. Ditched the undersized chest box. The helmet I'm modding for use with my custom Golden Age Sith Lord costume. The mask upper is pretty good to work with -- I would have had to do pretty much the same work in the same places with the HBS one. The mask lower... I'd just build a more accurate one via pepakura, cut off as much of the HBS piece as necessary to sit right in the new one (but keep it for the magnet mounts), glue the new outer layer on, and fiberglass and finish it up to look better. But between all that work and having to find a non-awful helmet, might as well just go with one of the more-accurate fanmade ones or the eFX PCR or whatever. But I definitely wouldn't shell out for the HBS when I could get something nearly equivalent at Goodwill for under ten dollars.
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