Avengers: Endgame (Post-release)

[Bloop]

You have reached many disingenuous conclusions based on very little information.

You have also managed to contradict yourself, by making several insulting statements, while absolving yourself by claiming to be empathetic.

I don't cry during a fictitious movie, and you feel the need to mock and ridicule. It's an interesting point of view you have, revealing far more about yourself, than I did about myself.

Again. Life has more than enough sorrow to shed tears over. A fictitious movie does not qualify for me.

But I suppose per your own words, if that makes me: "too cool", a "tough guy", then your feeling sorry for me is a passive aggressive way of condemnation, not sympathy.

dascoyne suggested that it was impossible not to get choked up. I responded directly to THAT about how I don't cry over movies. In no part of my response did I state that his emotions were invalid, or irrelevant.

Again, it's a movie. I don't cry over movies. If you feel so moved by such things, If a movie makes you tear up and cry uncontrollably, If you feel so moved that you can't stop thinking about a scene, I will not mock you for that.

But you will mock others based on one statement. YOU will take it upon yourself to judge a persons entire psyche based on one statement.

To be clear. You don't feel sorry for me. If you did, you wouldn't have written what you did. People who feel sorry for others, don't do that. Their approach is to try to understand that person. You talk about validation, yet you try to invalidate my point that I made that movies aren't something that I cry over. I didn't state no one else shouldn't. You say I lack empathy? The first sentence I wrote was that it was NICE that cap got to live his life. I didn't say: that was stupid, or dascoyne is a big cry baby.

Now do I feel sorry for you, or even anger? Not a chance in hell. People like you are just amusing little distractions that I'll forget about when I select the post reply key.

If I was an "amusing little distraction" you wouldn't have felt compelled to reply.
I can pity you and still take you to task for your comments. Nothing I said contradicts my comments. And I can judge you on your comments, because you chose to make them on this open forum. I can feel sorry for a person who's claims show no empathy or emotion, but I will call you out for your openly dismissive comments toward anyone that has an emotional response to a movie, or any event in their own life. Just because you didn't call anyone a name doesn't mean we can't infer the intent of your message. You made the choice to reply to someone that had an emotional response to the movie. You chose to put them down (and anyone else for that matter) that is moved by a work of fiction, or even the majority of life (again, your words: "It was nice that he got a life. But defy not to get choked up? Meh. It's a movie.I don't get choked up or cry for movies. That's what real life is for (though rarely)"). That comment can't be taken any other way than to put down anyone that has any emotional reaction to not only a movie, but most of their life experiences. If you didn't want to draw the ire of other people, then you shouldn't have posted what you did.
So, I will still pity the person you are, based on your own comments, and will find your statements to be unnecessarily cruel towards others. Your choice was made when you commented. If you didn't want to be called out for it, you shouldn't have posted what you did.

 

[Bloop]

You have reached many disingenuous conclusions based on very little information.

You have also managed to contradict yourself, by making several insulting statements, while absolving yourself by claiming to be empathetic.

I don't cry during a fictitious movie, and you feel the need to mock and ridicule. It's an interesting point of view you have, revealing far more about yourself, than I did about myself.

Again. Life has more than enough sorrow to shed tears over. A fictitious movie does not qualify for me.

But I suppose per your own words, if that makes me: "too cool", a "tough guy", then your feeling sorry for me is a passive aggressive way of condemnation, not sympathy.

dascoyne suggested that it was impossible not to get choked up. I responded directly to THAT about how I don't cry over movies. In no part of my response did I state that his emotions were invalid, or irrelevant.

Again, it's a movie. I don't cry over movies. If you feel so moved by such things, If a movie makes you tear up and cry uncontrollably, If you feel so moved that you can't stop thinking about a scene, I will not mock you for that.

But you will mock others based on one statement. YOU will take it upon yourself to judge a persons entire psyche based on one statement.

To be clear. You don't feel sorry for me. If you did, you wouldn't have written what you did. People who feel sorry for others, don't do that. Their approach is to try to understand that person. You talk about validation, yet you try to invalidate my point that I made that movies aren't something that I cry over. I didn't state no one else shouldn't. You say I lack empathy? The first sentence I wrote was that it was NICE that cap got to live his life. I didn't say: that was stupid, or dascoyne is a big cry baby.

Now do I feel sorry for you, or even anger? Not a chance in hell. People like you are just amusing little distractions that I'll forget about when I select the post reply key.

If I was an "amusing little distraction" you wouldn't have felt compelled to reply.
I can pity you and still take you to task for your comments. Nothing I said contradicts my comments. And I can judge you on your comments, because you chose to make them on this open forum. I can feel sorry for a person who's claims show no empathy or emotion, but I will call you out for your openly dismissive comments toward anyone that has an emotional response to a movie, or any event in their own life. Just because you didn't call anyone a name doesn't mean we can't infer the intent of your message. You made the choice to reply to someone that had an emotional response to the movie. You chose to put them down (and anyone else for that matter) that is moved by a work of fiction, or even the majority of life (again, your words: "I don't get choked up or cry for movies. That's what real life is for (though rarely)"). If you didn't want to draw the ire of other people, then you shouldn't have posted what you did.
So, I will still pity the person you are, based on your comments, yet I will still find your comments to be unnecessarily cruel towards others. Your choice was made when you commented, you have to live with it.

 

[ShoopWoop17]

This is a movie unlike anything I have seen before, and that is saying something. Great time travel, and moments which reward the watching of almost every MCU movie. It was fantastic.

 

[AJTaliesen]

Great movie, I definitely enjoyed it. I especially like Captain Americas ending, considering the whole avengers line started with "The First Avenger" this brought it all full circle.


Minor nitpick (if that): they acted like the Earth was a barren wasteland after the snap...pod of whales in the Hudson and all. Problem is, the current population is estimated at just under 8 billion. If you knock global pop down to 4 billion that would put us at roughly 1970 levels. Fewer people yes, but it's not like the place was empty...and NYC definitely wasn't sparkly clean. Also...as plans go...on Earth at least we'd be back at 8 billion in another 40 years. Even in Victory...congratulations Thanos...you bought the Universe an extra 40 years before we're right back at the same place. But my real problem with this realization: Thanos may actually have a point...our population is basically exploding out of control. One snap wouldn't even fix anything.

 

[dascoyne]

Minor nitpick (if that): they acted like the Earth was a barren wasteland after the snap...pod of whales in the Hudson and all. Problem is, the current population is estimated at just under 8 billion. If you knock global pop down to 4 billion that would put us at roughly 1970 levels. Fewer people yes, but it's not like the place was empty...and NYC definitely wasn't sparkly clean. Also...as plans go...on Earth at least we'd be back at 8 billion in another 40 years. Even in Victory...congratulations Thanos...you bought the Universe an extra 40 years before we're right back at the same place. But my real problem with this realization: Thanos may actually have a point...our population is basically exploding out of control. One snap wouldn't even fix anything.

My feeling was that, after the snap, people became more socially withdrawn. People would rather stay at home and play Fortnite than, say, attend a ballgame.

 

[CB2001]

My feeling was that, after the snap, people became more socially withdrawn. People would rather stay at home and play Fortnite than, say, attend a ballgame.

There's also another factor: survivor's guilt. As we saw with the guy talking about his date, it's clear that a lot of people are suffering from survivor's guilt from what happened with the snap, which means depression is also probably running high. And there might be some people who can't take the loss of family and friends to the point where they don't see any point in trying to do anything, as there'd probably be nothing new to do anyway. There may be some who lost everything they cared about and probably see no point in trying to move on when there's nothing for them to move on to.

 

[robn1]

Something just occurred to me, what about the folks who lost a spouse and remarried? I'm sure there would be a few at least, and then had to deal with the return of the first spouse. And the ones who returned find that their loved ones had remarried.

 

[GirlyGothicGeek]

We’ve basically had a Black Widow film all but confirmed, so I’m guessing we’ll find out Steve was somehow able to rescue her (does “Soul for a soul” work both ways? If you’re putting the stone back can you rescue a soul?)

I believe that the Black Widow movie is likely to be a prequel, possibly dealing with her origin in the Red Room, also possibly featuring Bucky in Winter Soldier mode.

I disagree about it being a prequel for one reason...

I agree on it being a prequel...

The IMDB page for the film states "At birth the Black Widow (aka Natasha Romanova) is given to the KGB, which grooms her to become its ultimate operative. When the U.S.S.R. breaks up, the government tries to kill her as the action moves to present-day New York, where she is a freelance operative. The standalone film will find Romanoff living in the United States 15 years after the fall of the Soviet Union." This article also states it as being set before the first Avengers film.

I also noticed that other than Scarlet Witch's line to Thanos, no one seemed to have anything to say about missing Vision... poor guy.

There is also the end dialogue between Wanda and Clint, when he states that he wishes he could tell Natasha that they won, and Wanda responds back saying that "she knows - they both know". I rather liked the short little picture of two people healing, as they looked out over the water.​

 

[GirlyGothicGeek]

True, but if people are gonna blame someone for Thanos winning in IW, than they should put the blame where it belongs: in Strange's hands. He saw how Peter would react to Gamora's death, didn't say anything about it and chose to withhold it so that they'd get the good. That's all I'm saying.

Thanos would have won regardless, in Infinity War. Thus the whole only-one-possible-timeline-in-which-we-win thing. The people who think otherwise aren't thinking it through. However, one can still criticize Peter for acting rashly, based on his emotions. What he did was necessary for them to win against Thanos, but it still was very stupid in the moment.

 

[dascoyne]

Endgame hit $1.914 billion as of Friday and will certainly cross $2B this weekend.

Avatar’s $2.78B is within sight. Time to take that sucker out.

 

[Strikerkc]

DEATH TO 'DANCES WITH SMURFS'!

 

[annanake]

Well it was good while it lasted !

I had five beautiful years of piece at home, open roads and great parking .

Then (snap ) back to a nagging wife, rush hour traffic jams and circling parking lots .

Stupid Avengers !!!!

 

[renaissance_man]

I wonder if we will see any adventures in the future with Cap and Peggy in maybe some sort of shorts on Disney+. I have a feeling we will eventually see some of these actor's reprise their role especially with Marvel's "What if...?" series. But I hope its not right away.

There is an animated What If in the works at Disney+, where Peggy holds the mantle of Captain America and Steve is the new Iron Man. It will no doubt have the original cast back to voice their characters, which will be great.

http://collider.com/marvels-what-if-disney-series-details-peggy-carter/

 

[dascoyne]

Endgame crosses $2.189B and sinks Titanic.

Avatar,

we
are
inevitable.

 

[Spiderdude321]

Seen it last night great movie..."I Am IronMan"

 

[cboath]

Endgame crosses $2.189B and sinks Titanic.

Avatar,

we
are
inevitable.

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There are also needs to be an actual tickets sold thing as well as adjusted for inflation. GWTW and SW for example, didn't have 3D, Imax, and 4D surcharge options to help them. Normal tickets in '77 were like 1.50 and 2 bucks. These days it varies around the country, i know there are places pushing 20 bucks for a normal show. I think here's its 10, Imax for endgame as around 14 i think. There's a 4D version here (the moving chair) that's 20 bucks.

 

[dascoyne]

There are also needs to be an actual tickets sold thing as well as adjusted for inflation. GWTW and SW for example, didn't have 3D, Imax, and 4D surcharge options to help them. Normal tickets in '77 were like 1.50 and 2 bucks. These days it varies around the country, i know there are places pushing 20 bucks for a normal show. I think here's its 10, Imax for endgame as around 14 i think. There's a 4D version here (the moving chair) that's 20 bucks.

That would be true if we were using the box-office earnings as a surrogate for measuring popularity - but we are not. You can go to great lengths to attempt to normalize the data in order to give a metric for movie popularity, if that’s what you’re trying to accomplish. If you want to go down that road you can factor in the inflated prices of Avatar tickets which were due to the novel 3D technology or weigh in the fact that there are more movie screens today and, thus more screenings worldwide, or calculate based on actual distribution in movie theaters but that becomes an endless endeavor if you were trying to quantify “popularity.”

But we’re not talking about popularity - only box-office sales.

I’m not going to take anything away from GWTW or SW which are both legendary but Avatar is a crappy movie which was able to exploit a novel 3D technology to double ticket prices with new international movie markets at a time where there was no viable sci-fi/fantasy competition. I want Endgame to knock that turd into second place and strip it of any bragging rights.

 

[cboath]

I just don't see it as quite as meaningful if you edge out titanic (which, admittedly it will eventually leave in the dust) which was out 20 years ago. Avatar may have 3D to boost it but it was what? 15 years ago? There's now IMAX at a higher rate as a 'boost' still.

I'd like to see endgame get to the top, but, but say it finishes at 2.9. It's a great achivement, but i'd say avatar's was a bit better.

 

[nwjedidave]

The "quakes on the ocean floor" (paraphrasing) that they should do nothing about is a Namor tease?

 

[cboath]

Heard it speculated, but nothing official