Am I REALLY the only one disappointed with TFA?

One last gripe, the bit about Stormtrooper helmets only filtering smoke not poison. Even my 12yo. nephew leaned over and called that out as dumb. Militaries now carry gas masks, so why would you make a battlefield helmet like the Stormtroopers have that doesn't filter out gas?!?!

Oh and for the Poe comment I'm posting that picture again. :devil He's doing something that's was already done in two movies. Very deep plot and character...
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Every single gripe I hear about the movie is comparative. The reason critics give it such a high score? Is because they are trained to be non-biased. In fact, that should technically be their credo. Go into each movie without any foreknowledge of the characters, the dialog or the plot, and then form your opinion of whether it was good or bad. It should be stripped down to that simple process. 90% of the people that leave the theater after seeing SW:TFA felt positive about it. I did, too. I felt like I was 7 years old again.

But, I know that the world is not that simple. Because we have memory; we have storage. All I can say is that I am sorry that J.J. and Kasden and Harrison Ford did not do it for you. There's always VIII, and Mark Hamill...:)
 
CessnaDriver said:
None of these deal with the derivative problem by the way..........
11 Serious Problems With The New Star Wars Movie
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/23/11-serious-problems-with-the-new-star-wars-movie/
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Although I disagree! ANY and ALL of the PT were Far better than this film!

the light saber duel from Episode 1, the Radiant 7 after the opening crawl, when Obi Wan meets Anakin, when Anakin leaves his mother,...these were at least for me far more emotional than anything in tfa. ............although, granted! I did want to wretch from the whole midi-chlorian thing! lol
 
CessnaDriver said:
And all of us should be concerned what it means that nostalgia driven rebooquels are being made huge hits. That means more of them coming.
So you already have a ton of films that are sequels and remakes, now on top of that a new category the megabuster nostalgia rebooquel? JW and TFA our first two, or three.. the latest Terminator seems to qualify.
So when you want new stories and risk taking on creative directions, why wouldn't a studio double down on give the fans what they want instead?
Nobody wanted Star Wars 77. For the public, it just happened. It wasn't give them what they want there ... more like give them what they never knew they needed.
There have been some big bombs on more creative very expensive films, but they were simply not good films. Jupiter Ascending and Tomorrowland for example.
So what are studios more likely to produce?
I get it's a business, I get that Star Wars sells tons of toys and products, but I'm a little freaked out out how receptive fans and the reviews are so far to them since it's so different from my reception. I'm usually not that out of whack.
I hope the nostalgia driven rebooquel is confined to a few films of mega franchises and we can move on to new ground. I think
they are limited by source materials. How many dormant franchises are there that can be done this way?
Obviously fans are tolerant at first, certainly that tolerance is perishable?
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I can't agree more!

when the PT's came out there was pretty much high praise all around, but when reality set in, the grumbling started! I LOVED the PT btw!

I think when the alcohol wears off and the masses see what is actually in bed with them in the morning, they will realize the reality of the situation!
 
I also hate to say it, but I would rather go pay to see one of the Prequel movies in the theater again than TFA for a second time.

I think that article nailed it. I just hope that on the next two they aren't afraid to do something new. That's the only way they're going to salvage the franchise IMO.
 
And Mad Max just showed that you CAN make a nostalgic franchise film that is a masterpiece. But it takes some artistic integrity.
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It also helps to have fewer age groups to please, less variation among the old movies, virtually no characters to bring back, barely any locations, only one specific vehicle, no pressure to set up sequels, etc. And it's nice when you've been brewing up one movie without much pressure for 15+ years. And it's nice when you did 3 old movies with decent quality, you've done respected work ever since, and yet most people (including critics) go into your new remake with very low expectations.

I love Fury Road as much as anyone but the comparison is not fair IMO. The demands on TFA were so much greater.
 
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Scott Graham said:
Well put: http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-george-awakens
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I liked this article until the end, when the author says TFA isn't a bad attempt to resurrect Star Wars. It is, indeed, a very bad attempt.

The Wook

ps~Fury Road stunk. It wasn't a Mad Max movie, it was a Mad Charlize (or whatever the frack her character's name was) movie. Max was completely forgettable in Fury Road. The only good part of that movie was the guitar player. Actually, I like Charlize, and she was good, but she should have been a secondary character, and Max should've been the protagonist/hero. He's nothing more than a mute dipschit goon along for the ride.
 
Sorry Wrong thread. Dunno why I bothered opening this one. Lol. :)


Ben
 
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When the author of the article says TFA is not a bad attempt at resurrecting Star Wars, does he add to that, "in my opinion"? No, of course not. Because it's not necessary. No opinion writers, on movies, or politics, or any subject, bother with that stupid and unnecessary phrase. I very rarely use it.

The Wook
 
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I didn't find TFA to be a complete let down... I enjoyed it quite a bit. While I liked it, I do see many faults with it and they're not just about its mimicking old storylines. Sure, we can find faults in all of the Star Wars movies - but, I think this exceeded them in many ways.

We can explain away some things - and often that's a fun way to fill in the gaps - but, often that becomes making excuses for poor storytelling. There might just be too many of these 'leaps of faith' in this movie... we gloss over them without much thought because we get lost in the moment. JJ made a fun, fast paced movie that really doesn't leave much room to breathe or think about the big picture. That's a good thing - because when I do stop and think about it, I find it a bit sloppy and just not very well thought out.

There are now more than a few articles popping up that also express some of these sentiments.

In a post in the other thread I linked to quotes from a podcast with Brian Quinn (of Impractical Jokers and Tell 'Em Steve Dave) - the official SW site even had a story with him a while back. One of the bits I got from that seemed somewhat ironic... because, if you really think about: JJ RUINED MY CHILDHOOD (I say that very tongue in cheek and with a wink and smile) - why? The "happy" ending of Return of the Jedi is no more - the Empire is back, Palpatine is back (in the form of Snoke), Vader is back (as Kylo Ren), Han and Leia's 'happily ever after' wasn't, the actual "return of the Jedi" (be it Luke bringing the Jedi back - or even Vader's redemption) didn't pan out.

Still, I liked this movie - enough to have seen it five times now... I love that it's doing great, but I'm not blind to its faults.
 
If you have seen it five times at the inflated prices they are charging, I would say you are free to say anything you damn well want.
 
I just saw it a second time, in a much better theater than before which allowed me to enjoy the score a lot more. There certainly are a lot of nits I could pick, but the only real problem I have is JJ's reliance on a ridiculous level of coincidence. In TFA it plays out a little better than in his Trek films. I'd really like to know how much of the story was from JJ and what parts came from Kasdan, I suspect the parts I like best were contributed by Kasdan.
 
Interested to hear your coincidences. I've seen it three times and many things are explained, but it moves quick.
 
I just think it's funny that a person could knock "coincidence" in this movie. If one has not noticed, there is A LOT of coincidence in every SW movie.
 
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