You mean the first look trailer that they showed that wasn't supposed to be released to the public because it was only footage from about two weeks of filming? Can't really set an accurate tone with barely any footage.
I mean this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI3hecGO_04
And if you think that's based on two weeks worth of filming, you've been had. Look at the different number of locations and scenes that were shot. Look at the FX work in those sequences. Look at the stunt work. Now try and tell me that they did all of that in two weeks. Even with 2nd units and stunt actors, that's definitely more than 2 weeks' worth of work. There's PLENTY of footage in that to give a feel to the film, and, what's more, DC is TELLING YOU, right up front, what the feel of the film "should" be in terms of how the trailer was cut, what scenes and shots were selected, and the music they used. That wasn't a "Wait, wait, it doesn't count" trailer. That wasn't something that fans pieced together from blurry hand-cam stuff shot looking onto the set.
That was DC's first, professionally done advertisement for what you can expect the film to be. That was DC telling you what's in the tin.
So, either that trailer was HORRIBLY produced and edited and the company that did it and/or the exec who okayed it are completely incompetent...or....that was the real-deal tone of the film before the backlash to the trailer and to all the BvS darkness crap.
If you like the look of that trailer, cool. Enjoy. If you don't, however, then don't believe that "reshoots" or slapping a couple of fun songs from the 70s on new trailers is gonna fix it. If anything, it'll probably just muddy the waters.
If you disagree with me, that's 100% fine. We can agree to disagree.
All I've said is that DC has no idea how to market this movie. I've seen things that have left different impressions.
I'm not here to say that this movie is going to suck. I'm not here to say the movie is going to be great, either. In fact, I'm more intrigued by this movie than I was by BvS. Regardless of what this movie turns out to be, All I'm saying is that DC seems like they are trying to market this however they can in order to appeal to people, but they still don't know exactly what people want. As Dan had mentioned, that sort of lack of direction can be a wider problem and be detrimental to the success of a film.
Agreed. I like the
idea of this new brace of trailers. I just don't
trust that that's what the film is. Or to the extent that they've reshot it to more closely fit that mold, I don't trust that their efforts will really work. I think you'll have a bunch of "funny" scenes jammed into an otherwise fairly dour film.
I could be wrong. If I am, that'd be great, because the
concept of a Suicide Squad film is cool.
But given DC's recent history, I just have very little faith in their brand of superhero film, and I think the new trailers suggest more of an attempt to "change horses midstream" than an actual personality transplant for the film.
And that's perfectly fine. Everyone can like or dislike a movie as long as they provide valid reasoning. I'm just confused because the last two trailers have been consistent in marketing and all the promotion with the movie whether it be the joker taking over Twitter or what not fit in with it. The only different type of marketing was the first look. Yes it was darker and more in line with bvs trailers but it was with very very limited footage and wasn't supposed to be released.
It absolutely was supposed to be released. It was a comic-con trailer. Come on man, do the math. Everyone knows that comic-con trailers end up being broadcast across the net. It was supposed to premiere there, sure, but the notion that it somehow "doesn't count?" That's absurd.
I mean, look, believe what you want. It's your nickel at the end of the day. All I'm saying is, if you think that the first trailer was an "error" or that the film can get a personality transplant, or that it didn't feature much footage (there were a LOT of scenes cut back and forth to in that trailer), then you're woefully mistaken or you're willfully fooling yourself because you
want the film to work. Which, I suppose, is also fine, but me, I'm done with "giving it a chance" when it comes to films.
The problem as I see it is the sense of entitlement and immediate critical deconstruction of any fragment of a movie that now appears, and it seems to have got more personal as internet and mobile phone usage has become more common. People have become more instant with their reactions to any infraction on the slightest of things as they believe they are entitled to and as there is no "brake" or real consequence for their lack of self censorship what we are now getting is this rather mundane and constant barrage of negativity by the small, but unfortunately loudest minority. It doesn't make their points any less valid, but the more reasonable people just don't bother to reply any more and move on. Unfortunately the same people who are still determined to vocalize their discontent follow them when they realize they are just left in an empty room........
I agree that BvS seems to have been a disappointment for many, but "SS" really could and I hope it does change things for them. I liked all three trailers the last one was particularly great because I haven't heard that music in decades!!!!
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'll say this.
1. I have every right to feel "entitled." Why? Because it's my ******* money that studios are trying to get. They're trying to convice me to part with my cash for their film. Well, you know what? If their trailer looks stupid, then, no, I'm not spending my money and I will happily call out what I see as unsatisfying based on the trailer. I'm not talking about, like, dissecting every minor detail of it. I'm saying the overall thrust of the trailer gives a certain impression.
2. "Give it a chance."
You give it a chance. Me, I'm
done "giving it a chance" when it comes to films. Going to the movies anymore is a minimum of a $30 process for tickets and refreshments. More if you don't want to go see it at a theater with a bunch of obnoxious teenagers that nobody's riding herd on. More, actually, when you consider that I also have to arrange for babysitting now, for the evening, although that's just my problem, I suppose. For me, at least, going to the movies means I REALLY want to see this film, AND I don't want to wait to watch it in the comfort of my media room. That's a big commitment on my part. If a film comes out where the trailer looks utterly unappealing -- particularly for something I would otherwise be interested in -- you can bet that I'll voice my criticisms of it, and I definitely will
not be "giving it a chance." Not when it's gonna cost me anywhere from $30-60 to "give it a chance," depending, not to mention the raw amount of time I'll be sitting in the theater.
You take chances if you want. I'm betting on sure things.
(To be clear, I mean "you" in the broad, generic sense of the term, not you specifically, CutThumb.)
Lets not forget one thing tho if they actually changed anything cus of the bad reviews that came from BvS we should applaude it in a way not bash it cus they change. For me this says that they care enough to bring us what WE want instead of what a director wants.
Well...yes and no. I mean, yes, it's good that DC is waking up to the notion that hey, they USED to be the comic company with the brightly colored sunny outlook on life, and lately they've turned into the "DC Murderverse(tm)". And maybe that's not working, and they're figuring that out. so, that part's good. What isn't good, though, is the notion that you can have a film a few scant months from release, already in the can, probably doing post production, and you decide "People didn't like our last film, so let's go do some reshoots to make it funnier based on how people responded to the new funny trailer." I don't think you can really change a movie's DNA that way. I mean, maybe they can and Suicide Squad will become a triumph of deft editing. But I suspect what we'll end up with is a very uneven film that has, basically, two different personalities that don't mesh: (1) dark and dour, (2) upbeat and fun.
so, in that sense, I feel perfectly justified in saying "Nice try, DC. But I doubt you'll pull it off." Also, slapping in literally the two most predictable 70s songs into the last two trailers just suggests to me that the people involved really are just trying to manipulate the audience.
