mattycsi
Master Member
Re: The Joker (origin film)
It would be difficult to erase evidence of your existence, probably impossible, unless you were a super high level hacker or something.
However, its possible to avoid the grid from the start. If a person was never arrested or in a position to have biometric data recorded, i.e getting prints and retinal scans at a customs point, then the police would have very little way to ID them. Now, if you have a suspicion of who said person might be, there are ways of figuring that out with familial dna or contact dna and fingerprints at a suspected address.
In a country such as the States, if you have a law abiding citizen in one state, with nothing recorded like above, and they move to another state cross country, to become The Joker. It would be extremely difficult to trace that person back. Even dental records, I was 25+ years between visits, and it will be another 25 if I have anything to do with it! (I got a blender, TF do I need teeth for!!!) For medical records you would need to get a hold of the guy and check for anything obvious like an appendicitis scar and dig into that, but it could take years unless you know roughly when it happened.
You could also hypothesise that maybe the guy comes from a small family, no siblings and parents dead. No extended family, or ones that he is close too and no real friends, then you haven't even got a missing persons report when he shifts state. So one less avenue to explore.
Factor in Dascoyne's points as well, and I think it's more than possible for an individual to be off the grid.
Back in 2005 in the UK we had "the Piano Man" a guy found on a beach somewhere down south, he was kept in a secure unit and offered no details as to his ID and remained unidentified for a few months until he started speaking and offered up some information. That maybe a different scenario in this day and age with social media. But is shows that there is some precedence for the phenomenon.
Okay, I can deal with that. I enjoy the mystery, too.
But still, would it be possible for someone to do that? Forget about the Joker for a second, what about anyone else? Do you think it could be done? Barring someone being born into oblivion like that. Could someone like you or I ever find a way to completely erase all evidence of our existence?
It would be difficult to erase evidence of your existence, probably impossible, unless you were a super high level hacker or something.
However, its possible to avoid the grid from the start. If a person was never arrested or in a position to have biometric data recorded, i.e getting prints and retinal scans at a customs point, then the police would have very little way to ID them. Now, if you have a suspicion of who said person might be, there are ways of figuring that out with familial dna or contact dna and fingerprints at a suspected address.
In a country such as the States, if you have a law abiding citizen in one state, with nothing recorded like above, and they move to another state cross country, to become The Joker. It would be extremely difficult to trace that person back. Even dental records, I was 25+ years between visits, and it will be another 25 if I have anything to do with it! (I got a blender, TF do I need teeth for!!!) For medical records you would need to get a hold of the guy and check for anything obvious like an appendicitis scar and dig into that, but it could take years unless you know roughly when it happened.
You could also hypothesise that maybe the guy comes from a small family, no siblings and parents dead. No extended family, or ones that he is close too and no real friends, then you haven't even got a missing persons report when he shifts state. So one less avenue to explore.
Factor in Dascoyne's points as well, and I think it's more than possible for an individual to be off the grid.
Back in 2005 in the UK we had "the Piano Man" a guy found on a beach somewhere down south, he was kept in a secure unit and offered no details as to his ID and remained unidentified for a few months until he started speaking and offered up some information. That maybe a different scenario in this day and age with social media. But is shows that there is some precedence for the phenomenon.