Where are you getting your data from? So you're saying that between you, me and teecrooz we own 10% of the single step shrouds left in the world? As intriguing as that may be, I find it hard to believe...
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Where are you getting your data from? So you're saying that between you, me and teecrooz we own 10% of the single step shrouds left in the world? As intriguing as that may be, I find it hard to believe...
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It's definitely not a concrete data.
But, I kept a record of all the serial numbers of MPPs I had and whatever I could find online.
Also, from what I understand, single-step shroud MPPs were produced earlier, which seems to line up with the serial number theory.
Considering how single-step MPPs are much harder to come by than two-step MPPs, I think the proportion of around 200:1300+ lines up.
Upon further thinking, probably more than 100 are still surviving today because MPPs were produced later than Graflex.
But, I only know of less than 25 single-step shrouds accounted for in-and-out of this community.
Again, all this is just an educated guess and theory, so I could be totally off.
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I'd say it looks a bit too thick. The MPP D-rings should have a 2.2 mm wire diameter.
sorry: edited the diameter to 2.2mm
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Was that a discovery made here? Is there a thread to read. I didn't notice it on this one in my perusing but I may have missed it. There's a lot of info to rifle through, lol!
Sorry: I edited the diameter to 2.2mm.
No, there's no discovery. It's the result of my 3D perspective matching during the development of my upcoming steel cast shroud production run.
roygilsing Please put me down for a steel shroud!!!
roygilsing Also, I know you have probably been hounded about this before, but would you ever consider some accurate aluminum shrounds again? The ones on the market just aren't there in terms of accuracy.
Bradberry00 Not for now, no I haven't considered it. I'm first working on the next steel shroud run and as far as I'm concerned that's the only screen accurate version! There are plenty of alu replicas out there. I'm not sure if mine would make that much of a difference. I don't like doing what other's are doing already (unless I think I can improve it)
I would argue it would make a difference since aluminum is accurate to the ANH MPPs, and even though Roman is making his version his shroud wall is too thick according to the reference photos I believe, and his are made of cast zinc not aluminum. I am finding a need for quite a number of aluminum and steel shrouds for screen accurate builds and have had to settle for Roman when I know there are more accurate options possible but that haven't been tapped yet in the aluminum realm.
After the steel run is done, I would encourage you to consider an aluminum. Ideally, it would be fantastic if both steel and aluminum WW MPP shrouds could be available as often as Kobold clips or T-track grips are available, but I imagine there is an unfortunate variable impeding that as a possibility?
I would argue it would make a difference since aluminum is accurate to the ANH MPPs, and even though Roman is making his version his shroud wall is too thick according to the reference photos I believe, and his are made of cast zinc not aluminum. I am finding a need for quite a number of aluminum and steel shrouds for screen accurate builds and have had to settle for Roman when I know there are more accurate options possible but that haven't been tapped yet in the aluminum realm.
Thanks Nate,
Yes, I see your point and you're right. The problem in the past was the amount of work it was to apply the wrinkle paint finish to them. But since I have now access to new and good manufacturers, I will consider it!
Glad you are considering it, I would be fine with a raw aluminum option too. It is mainly the leading edge on the replica shrouds that isn't right. The real ones I have seen (in photos only mind you) appear to be very thin.
Indeed they are quite thin - vintage MPP shroud on the left, original run WW steel shroud on the right:
Fabulous, roygilsing , thank you! Actually, might it be possible to just sell them bare, without paint? Because then that would allow the buyer to determine the treatment, i.e., the amount of weathering they prefer or whether to just paint it and have it look as new without weathering.
If you were to have them all pre-painted, it might make weathering them slightly more challenging. Just a thought. As long as we could have access to aluminum/steel MPP shrouds within reason, that would be fantastic!
If you were to have them all pre-painted, it might make weathering them slightly more challenging. Just a thought. As long as we could have access to aluminum/steel MPP shrouds within reason, that would be fantastic!
I think Roy's original aluminum shrouds were designed well enough to be accurate but were identifiable enough to determine they were his.
I agree. I have an MPP and it's still easy enough to tell the difference.
