Vader MPP lightsabers details and specifications

Not all, but on some single-step shrouds, that area has over spray.
So, it wouldn't be out of the norm to see that part covered with paint on some shrouds.

This is why I'm concerned about the idea of only using inside engraving. It can be covered with paint, and we won't be able to tell the difference.

I think it's the best solution for everyone to add a larger recessed area similar to vintage 2-step shroud interior
 
Sure, they have overspray, but if the whole inside surface is painted that would be a definite red flag in my opinion. Granted, I've only ever had two original MPP shrouds - here was the other one, which I sold to Nick Cline a while ago:

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If that lower section had a coating of wrinkle paint, I don't believe the shroud would fit on the flash tube. Just put a large, deeply incised mark in the middle of that area - so deep that you couldn't sand it out without it being obvious/destroying the shroud and so large that any attempts at filling it would also be obvious.
 
The 48th Ronin said:
If that lower section had a coating of wrinkle paint, I don't believe the shroud would fit on the flash tube. Just put a large, deeply incised mark in the middle of that area - so deep that you couldn't sand it out without it being obvious/destroying the shroud and so large that any attempts at filling it would also be obvious.
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I just checked, and one of my authentic single-step shroud is completely covered with paint inside.
So, let's not jump to conclusion that all vintage single-steps are unpainted inside.

Again, no matter how large/deep the engraving is, once it's covered with paint, it would be indistinguishable.
That's why I'm suggesting more tells inside (or outside, which many people seem to hate)
 
Edraven99 said:
You'r might be the rarity though; I just check my two and neither of them are painted on the interior. Over-spray, yes, fully painted, no.
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I'll send you a picture of mine through PM.
I found it odd when I received it, but it's fully painted inside.
One of teecrooz's might also have plenty of paint inside.
 
andyroo said:
That was Roy's intention wasn't it?
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The steel ESB shroud is very different than the aluminum (or other alloy) shrouds dimensionally, if that is what you are referring to.


PrinceZip said:
I just checked, and one of my authentic single-step shroud is completely covered with paint inside.
So, let's not jump to conclusion that all vintage single-steps are unpainted inside.
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Interesting to know that some may be fully painted.


PrinceZip said:
I like that idea:)
Make it out of zinc or steel, you can get it as accurate as possible, and people won't confuse between replicas vs. real deals.
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If you can see it/test it in person, yes. If Roy does do this, I would like them to be as accurate as possible on the outside and in weight. For me, the inside can look however he chooses to make it as long as it doesn't interfere with the exterior appearance.
 
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Thanks everyone for the information and your suggestions.

IF I do another batch of aluminium shrouds I will not compromise the accuracy of the visible parts, because that would defeat the whole purpose of the effort. I would consider an internal tell, but one that is obvious and clear and can't be sanded or painted away just like that.

But first I'm focusing on the steel shrouds, (which still have not been found on vintage MPP'S yet). The new samples are looking excellent and it won't be long till I can offer them.

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Your steel shrouds are good.
I got two in hand one I finished as it, was nice, another I finished with complete re-shape on outside, was nicer, even not necessary to make the file work.
My idea is the steel shroud doesn't exist, far too heavy, and I think the original shroud was custom made, from a tube and a welded square shape.
Also that thick walled shroud, I never saw it anywhere.
All the originl I got in hand were aluminum, all were painted everywhere except the tube covering inner section.
Steps were like your picture, for accurate version, and smaller diameter for 2 steps shroud version.
All thin walled, but two steps shrouds have a very bit thicker wall.

 
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Wow, I don't even remember him offering aluminum shrouds. It seems more recently he was considering offering accurate aluminum MPP shrouds, which would be awesome.
 
IronDestinyProps said:
Didn't notice those rounded LEDs until you pointed them out, good eye. It's hard to tell on the original prop if the LEDs are rounded or flat like in the photos in post #495, but my gut is telling me they are flat on the screen prop. I believe you may be right, slothfurnace, that the 1974 Exactra 21 PCB may feature rounded LEDs in which case it seems that would not be movie accurate.

My vote would be for two board colors: a light tan color and a bluish-teal. I caliper measured the one I cut in the photo below for Dustin C's build, and it is 18.30mm wide by 42.78mm long, and the LEDs were 4.14mm wide by 6.84mm long. I would vote for making your board's length and width a bit bigger than those measurements to allow for custom cutting and assembly since every MPP clamp varies slightly in construction and dimensions.

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Those LED's are very cool. I wonder how common they were back in the day? Do you know if multiple brands of calculators might have used them, or is that a trade secret? ;)
 
WyoWilliam said:
Those LED's are very cool. I wonder how common they were back in the day? Do you know if multiple brands of calculators might have used them, or is that a trade secret? ;)
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There seems to be a few different variant TI calculators that used these type of square, red LED PCBs, but the more accurately proportioned one and the one that seems to have been used on the screen used prop came from either a 19 or 20 Exactra. But until we obtain better photo reference we may never be able to nail that detail down with any degree of certainty.

The current photo evidence we have seems to indicate the original board was a definite light color shade--definitely lighter than the dark blue boards which seem to be common with these LEDs and lighter than the olive or tannish colored variants I've previously seen on this thread.
 
IronDestinyProps said:
There seems to be a few different variant TI calculators that used these type of square, red LED PCBs, but the more accurately proportioned one and the one that seems to have been used on the screen used prop came from either a 19 or 20 Exactra. But until we obtain better photo reference we may never be able to nail that detail down with any degree of certainty.

The current photo evidence we have seems to indicate the original board was a definite light color shade--definitely lighter than the dark blue boards which seem to be common with these LEDs and lighter than the olive or tannish colored variants I've previously seen on this thread.
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Interesting. I suspect if I ever run across any old TI calculators I may be doing some dissections. I'm amazed that we can't find some old publicity shot that shows it better, but of course no one would have suspected the obsessive amount of detail we'd spend on this movie 40+ years later. Ha! I do love the look of the blue board, though - maybe it's better we don't know. ;)
 
I've seen some screen caps in this thread, and the one in Seth's guide, but other than these, does anyone have any screen grabs or photos of the ESB MPP during filming? I want to weather up Roy's new shroud more like it is during filming. (Pre-rust) And I know Nate at Iron Destiny Props has some AWESOME videos on some he has done. Just didn't know if we had any more reference photos or sharpened close up screen caps?
 
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