Yeah, giant lactating alien nipple even. Just what we needed in a Star Wars film. Get you some.Some one say nipple?
Yeah, giant lactating alien nipple even. Just what we needed in a Star Wars film. Get you some.Some one say nipple?
The only SE add on that I don't mind and actually prefer is the Biggs Luke reunion in the hanger. I wish they would've left it in the original cut. I get why they didn't since the Biggs on Tatooine material was left out too but it still works as it's obvious they're old friends so it adds emotional impact to Biggs dying. Luke saying "Blast it, Biggs where are you?!" and "Just like Beggar's Canyon back home" make a bit more sense as well and when Biggs reassures Red Leader that "Luke's the best bush pilot in the Outer-Rim territories", it reinforces how good of a pilot Luke is and that he's up to the challenge of jumping into an X-wing straight into battle.
I mean of course I would still want a pure theatrical rerelease but for myself I wouldn't mind having a fan edit of just that scene included.
What do you guys think?
I agree with you on the THX but most of the pre-1997 changes were audio-related. It's really not a problem these days to include multiple audio tracks on a blu-ray. And the plus is that unlike the inserted and modified scenes autio tracks are selectable.I was merely pointing out that given multiple iterations of the "theatrical version", a definitive version may be hard to pin down. Not everyone saw the same version in 1977.
The best course, I think, would be the THX home video issue as the template or jumping off point. And a discrete "remixed for 7.2 surround" soundtrack would be a bonus feature, not the default. If we're being true to the original, anyway.
Yeah, giant lactating alien nipple even. Just what we needed in a Star Wars film. Get you some.
As if there was any doubt that it isn't Star Wars anymore, you would think that would drive it home.
I agree with you on the THX but most of the pre-1997 changes were audio-related. It's really not a problem these days to include multiple audio tracks on a blu-ray. And the plus is that unlike the inserted and modified scenes autio tracks are selectable.![]()
I don't understand it even from a business sense. If you can make money releasing both then why not? Release the SE version and a properly restored theatrical cut. Directors and studios do it all the time. I bet it's just a way for him to exert some sort of control over his creation and nothing more.
Plus the idea that the SE is his "original vision" is utter nonsense. Which of the multiple SE versions is his "original vision." By default they can't all be the original idea. I'd be happy if he just admitted that he just kept changing his mind. Thats the real reason he kept tweaking it. I mean the guy altered it in 2011 with the Blu-ray release the year before he sold off his entire company.
As much as i'd like the OOT released properly, i think people seriously over estimate how much money it'd bring in. It's a small group of people that interested in it.
Okay, WHICH theatrical version do you want? There's the 70mm print version. Then there's the two 35mm versions, with either a Dolby Stereo or mono audio mix. They're all different. Everyone acts like there's a definitive version of the original theatrical release version of the films (particularly ANH), which just isn't true. The closest we can get would be the THX version prior to the Special Editions. That "version" released in 4k might be close in terms of narrative structure, but modern audio standards would once again invalidate it's true accuracy.
Back then I saw the print with "Close the blast doors!"... heroes run though just barely, and then "Open the blast doors!". That got a laugh from the audience, which to me made it a significant event, and it showed the troopers were getting all run around by them. But I understand not all prints had the "Open the blast doors!" line. So even back then there were different versions.
I agree that it's a much smaller subset that actually cares about the differences...but so what? Blade Runner is a complete niche film, and the last release had five versions of the film included, with a workprint version. I think the real question is one of just making money. Towards that end, you'd have to find a price point for the set that would get people to buy it and offset the expense of producing it.
As I've said for a while, I think the best chance the film has at being released in an OOT version will be when they want to do a 4K release. They'll have to rescan things anyway, and the material they've been working off of since 1997 is all 1080p source material, I believe. Maybe 2K max.
I'll be happy with the version that ran on PRISM in the 1980s, or the one from the CBS/FOX VHS release.![]()
In seriousness, though, I don't actually care a ton about which audio versions they do as long as (1) the "magnum" sounds for the blasters are removed, and (2) Luke doesn't do that YEEEAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH scream when he falls down the shafe on Cloud City.
Yeah, growing up, I never saw the "Close the blast doors!" bit. I originally thought that was added to the SEs. Didn't realize it came from one of the earlier audio tracks.
Agreed, I got that BR boxed set and it's great.The Blade Runner Final Cut release is a near ideal template for what they should do. A big box set with the different cuts that have been released. Leave it to the fans to decide which release they prefer.
Which version is that? Are you talking about the OOT bonus discs that were included with the initial '04 DVD release? Frankly, those are dreadful. A better (and more accessible) laserdisc transfer would be the ILM Definitive (HA!) Collection set from 1993. The best would be the Japanese-release "Special Collection" laserdiscs from 1986. Here's a comparison between the two -- JSC top, DC bottom.I have the laserdisc tranfsers on DVD from 2006. If I could get a cleaned up bluray of those or 4K version I'd be very happy indeed.
Those were the Definitive Collection transfers. Hence the weird color timing.I'm not sure what the source for the 2006 laser disc scans were. They came as bonus discs with the SE versions.
Which version is that? Are you talking about the OOT bonus discs that were included with the initial '04 DVD release? Frankly, those are dreadful.
Those discs suck.