Torchwood is back!!! Starts tonight 7/8/11 on Starz - SPOILERS

Other than the stretching it to 10 episodes, i think this is the way RTD wants it to be. Children of Men was the same basic way - didn't have the feel or fun of the original series. The CoM was a 5 parter where he killed off 1/2 the team and then sent Jack running off into space to sulk. Then we were left hanging for 2 years with that being the last we might have possibly seen of Torchwood. Not a way to go out, frankly. I haven't heard starz saying they want another round yet, so hopefully there's a decent amount of happy at the end - something like, setting the hub back up to get back in business.
 
maybe they are going to try and build a torchwood hub in the US at the end of this season, then bring the english back here to uk for uk based torchwood. maybe there will be a torchwood in every country with diff characters like a world defence league Dr's Army tye thing lol. there was only so much torchwood could do in the uk i like the show glad they have epanded to us and like everyone else here i think its a bit slow
 
WOW! Can I bring a thread to a screaching halt or what?

Watched last weeks episode, and while they were trying to translate the Mandarin........shouldnt Jack be able to do so after being a passanger in the TARDIS?

The show is such a disappointment from so many directions. Bill Pullman is just SO NOT CONVINCING! This should be so much darker, but is not. I could go on and on.....but.
 
Watched last weeks episode, and while they were trying to translate the Mandarin........shouldnt Jack be able to do so after being a passanger in the TARDIS?

No, you have to have a 'live' connection to the Tardis. He hasn't been in the Tardis recently.
 
My fondest dream for Friday's episode is:

Jack get's sucked into the blessing, destroying it and ending the Miracle. Then, in a final scene we see Jack in the first stages of becoming "A Giant Head in a Jar", thus ending Torchwood and preventing them sucking any more life out of this once great series.

/rant
 
I had a lot of problems suspending my disbelief as some things didn't really work for me.

Guy gets blown up and is still alive, woman is crushed and is still alive. People are shot and are somehow "dead", like the assassin or the CIA agent (though I think she was shot in the brain)

It's sloppy writing that ruins it and the terribly slow pace of it all. Not enough material to work with.
 
I admit it's not as tightly managed like "Children of Earth" but I think seeing how the conspiracy has been developed and what it is can be more interesting in some ways. I wouldn't say it's overall as good as CoE but it's enjoyable for me!
 
I had a lot of problems suspending my disbelief as some things didn't really work for me.

Guy gets blown up and is still alive, woman is crushed and is still alive. People are shot and are somehow "dead", like the assassin or the CIA agent (though I think she was shot in the brain)

It's sloppy writing that ruins it and the terribly slow pace of it all. Not enough material to work with.

Agreed on that front. They are inconsistent with what injuries do to a person. I suppose it's a minor point, but it seems like they just do whatever suits the plot at the moment.
 
I'm pot committed at this point but what a disappointment. The only episode that's felt remotely like Torchwood was the Jack flashback episode. Everything else has been...eh, not sure what to even call it. They should put this horse out to pasture and get Jack back on the Tardis for a spell.
 
While most of the episode was pretty disappointing, I have to admit I LOVED the classic Tennant ending!

"What?"
 
Just finished watching Miracle Day. I have to agree with the general concensus around here. TWMD is by far the weakest of the 4 series. The American members of the team were weak and annoying. While they have clearly left this series open-ended, I kinda wish they'd dump Rex and start over again with Jack and Gwen and maybe some new blood. PC Andy, anyone?
 
I have to agree that the series was very inconsistant with the death thing.

Jack even made a speech in the second or third episode about how people are "so alive". Injuries that would seriously incapacitate a person even if they were survivable barely fazed them. In the first episode they even tried to kill someone that attempted to blow himself up and found it was not only impossible to kill him, but he remained conscious. Now burning bodies kills them for good.

By the end people were more or less dead at a certain point. Thier heart may have still been beating, but they were gone.

The whole premise of a day when nobody dies goes right out the window when holding a gun on someone is still considered a threat.

Also if Jack's blood was used to make everyone like Jack, why didn't they heal from thier injuries the way Jack does?
 
I think that you can easily make the arguement that that's what happens when people don't die. The morphic field kept them alive, but it didn't rejuvenate cells from what I saw. I kept them moreso at their current state. If you were already old and in deteriorating health, it didn't make you heal or get better (no one healed after being hurt after all) it just kept you from dying. So if you were in a near dead state, you just stayed that way.

I dont' think more people 'got' that way, they just found/showed more of them. There are 6 billion people in the world. If there was an even number of people of each age from 1-100, that'd mean there were 1.2B over the age of 80 in the world. Plenty enough to show what they had in 'near death' states. It's what they were talking about in the beginning about no one dying in that hospitals and hospices and whatever would have to take care of terminal people forever.

As for the burning, if you're just ashes I don't see how you'd still stay 'alive', miracle or not.

Holding a gun is still a threat because no one knows if it's permanent. If you're shot in the chest and the miracle ends...then what? Is it worse to die in an instant without warning or to know that you're mortally wounded and if the miracle ends, you're likely to drop dead right there?

Jack's blood made the 'blessing' emit a field that kept people alive, not one that changed their physical makeup. Prior to having his blood introduced it absorbed the blood(?) from the people living at each end so that their life expectancy was dead on equal to that the 'average' life expectancy of the time. His blood altered the field, not their bodies, so that it kept them alive.

If they had to give someone Jack's imortal powers, i would rather it have been the girl. Rex was too annoying start to finish. My guess is the point of a 'next season' is that Rex is somehow the new key since jacks ability transfered and he'll have to sacrifice it to end the next threat from 'plan b'. Though i'll be surprised if starz reups it.
 
No kidding!!! Now we'll NEVER get rid of Rex. Esther would have been a much better choice. At least it explains HOW Rex survived after the morphic field was returned to normal. Because last I recall, having all the blood sucked out of your body is typically fatal. As for Rex becoming the new key, seems doubtful. Rex's body most likely just got saturated with Jack's blood and now heals up. Hope they find a way to kill him off though.

I like that the redhead survived and is now back with the Families. I like her. She's spunky.
 
We already know that Jack is going to survive no matter what. Hes the Face of Boe. Kind of takes all of the tension away.
 
RTD pulled back on that and 'claims' that it's not set in stone that it's jack. Whatever.

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I loved the line in the fight on the elevator..."how much bloody lipstick can you wear?"

I'd thought the same thing multiple times during the season :)

I find it disappointing, though, that if there's a 'next season' that it'll once again be about the familes.
 
Wow, that episode last night was just amazing! I hope, if they make a new series and its about the 'plan B' the families are doing, it will have some kind of alien presence. There was no aliens in this series.
and what about the rift in Cardiff? it wasn't mentioned, and who was taking care of the stuff coming through? no one. so shouldn't Cardiff have had problems?
 
I found the series to be very strong and it kept me at wanting more when it ended!

But alas the wrap up episode 10 was VERY VERY VERY disappointing. As if the writers ran out of ideas and just had to abruptly end the 10 part series in a rather wimpy way.

The end conclusion wrap up in short bits was interesting for a new series but the entire crack through the earth was very strange.!
 
The way I took it was that The Blessing didn't know which one was Jack, so they both got immortality. Plus they did point out in the episode that it was perfectly balanced on both sides of the world, so it only seems right for the immortality gift to be balanced too. I really hope there's another season. I mean, it wasn't the best the show has been but it was still a fun ride and nice to see where it progressed to after COE.

Also, in regards to the rift comment, apparently the rift was closed up for good, in one of the novels.

It would be nice to see them have a HUB again if it comes back for another season. I've always wanted them to bring back Bilis Manger too, that guy was awesome as a big bad. I'll watch no matter what they do anyway so it's all good.

I'm wondering if the Doctor's death will play into the Miracle as it is during the same time period. It'd be nice to at least give the whole thing a mention.


While most of the episode was pretty disappointing, I have to admit I LOVED the classic Tennant ending!

"What?"

I actually groaned over that. A few seconds before that, Jack also said "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry" which is another line which #10 constantly said.
 
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