Top Gun F-14s Take Two

PHArchivist

Master Member
The fairing detaching is visible in the film - was the take cut into the final print. Thankfully it had no impact on the flight capabilities of the Tomcat...

I'm not that good at picking up on this stuff - was shown in one of the special features on the DVD...
 

JNordgren42

Active Member
that is pretty wild. I know the F-14s were prone to mishaps which lead to them being grounded at one point


although one of the known problems I think is that they had a stall risk on certain maneuvers, or at least that is what I think they blamed for the crash at the Willow Grove Airshow in 2000

I remember watching the routine ending in horror as the smoke went up
They were doing a landing wave-off maneuver
The pilot was supposedly able to drop it in just the right spot to miss the houses back there and instead go down in the wooded area behind them

They were also too low and at the wrong angle to eject safely at that point

The Pratt & Whitney TF30's in the F-14A had a lot of issues. They had a high incidence of turbine blade failures which lead Grumman to reinforce the engine bays to contain damage in case the engine ate itself. They were also prone to compressor stalls which could result in severe yaw issues (due to the engines being spaced so far apart) which was the inspiration for the flat spin scene. The GE F110 used in the B & D was a much better engine all around.
 

JNordgren42

Active Member

Absolutely fantastic! This has really inspired me, I may have to pick up a Cat and do one up. The classic VF-84 Jolly Rogers scheme was always my absolute favorite, but I just saw this aggressor "Tomcatsky" Red 31 scheme that is also bad ass. Does anyone have any opinions on a great 1/72 kit?

F-14-vf-84.jpg


F-14A_Tomcat_of_VF-126_c1993.jpg
 

crackerjazz

Sr Member
Great to hear you got some inspiration from the build, JNordgren42. Go for the GWH for accuracy : ) Wow, that short news report was hard to watch, Analyzer. Feeling totally heartbroken by that tragic event. I didn't know the F-14 was such a widowmaker even off-screen.

Hi PHarchivist that does look like the Salton Sea, good eye : ) Re the access panel, that was intriguing -- just had to rewatch the scene. It does look like something shoots out when he pulls up. Just looks odd it would come from near the nose and the way it shoots straight out like a projectile without flipping around seems uncharacteristic of a flat panel in the air. Although it does travel in a curve shortly after that -- it sure behaves like a UFO doesn't it : ) But judging by the length of that thing it does match the size of the panel, somehow.

51869249457_383cf69f9b_o.png


51870863380_09afd5164c_o.png
 

Analyzer

Master Member
Great to hear you got some inspiration from the build, JNordgren42. Go for the GWH for accuracy : ) Wow, that short news report was hard to watch, Analyzer. Feeling totally heartbroken by that tragic event. I didn't know the F-14 was such a widowmaker even off-screen.

Hi PHarchivist that does look like the Salton Sea, good eye : ) Re the access panel, that was intriguing -- just had to rewatch the scene. It does look like something shoots out when he pulls up. Just looks odd it would come from near the nose and the way it shoots straight out like a projectile without flipping around seems uncharacteristic of a flat panel in the air. Although it does travel in a curve shortly after that -- it sure behaves like a UFO doesn't it : ) But judging by the length of that thing it does match the size of the panel, somehow.

View attachment 1544039

View attachment 1544040
is it possible it might have been a temporary cover to cover up some real marking or similar. Kind of equivalent to a vinyl sign you slap on a car?
 

Analyzer

Master Member
Absolutely fantastic! This has really inspired me, I may have to pick up a Cat and do one up. The classic VF-84 Jolly Rogers scheme was always my absolute favorite, but I just saw this aggressor "Tomcatsky" Red 31 scheme that is also bad ass. Does anyone have any opinions on a great 1/72 kit?

View attachment 1544022

View attachment 1544023
in 1/72 the Academy Pukin Dogs kit is a new tool (from 2020) and has some excellent details

It can also be built so the wings are fully poseable instead of having to choose either a swept back or extended position. it also has decals for the "scrapes" where the wings extend

also, while the kit depicts an F-14a, there are actually 2 different style engine parts and other parts to build the later variants, newer engines

Of course you will need aftermarket decals to turn it into a Jolly Rogers one or possibly wait and see if Academy comes out with a JR variant

Note, they have an older, less accurate shape wise 1/72 Jolly Rogers one believe and I am not sure it has all the bells and whistles
 

PHArchivist

Master Member
Great to hear you got some inspiration from the build, JNordgren42. Go for the GWH for accuracy : ) Wow, that short news report was hard to watch, Analyzer. Feeling totally heartbroken by that tragic event. I didn't know the F-14 was such a widowmaker even off-screen.

Hi PHarchivist that does look like the Salton Sea, good eye : ) Re the access panel, that was intriguing -- just had to rewatch the scene. It does look like something shoots out when he pulls up. Just looks odd it would come from near the nose and the way it shoots straight out like a projectile without flipping around seems uncharacteristic of a flat panel in the air. Although it does travel in a curve shortly after that -- it sure behaves like a UFO doesn't it : ) But judging by the length of that thing it does match the size of the panel, somehow.

View attachment 1544039

View attachment 1544040
The incident (if you can call it that) was well known by the Navy contingent involved in the film. The DVD special feature interviewees cite precisely what the part is / was, but I can't recall the part name.


Geez, all the F-14 chat has us distracted from the main thrust of this thread (pun intended)...!


That being said, here's a fun little video:

 

PHArchivist

Master Member
And, if I may indulge in one more slightly off-topic post (apologies), here is my one-and-only F-14 build, from back in the late 80's. Was about 19 at the time...

Reference to the Jolly Rogers catalyzed this post; otherwise, I respect that this is your build thread, and not my show-off thread!

The poor quality photograph I always thought leant to realism (except there is no driver and RIO!).

031.jpg
 

JNordgren42

Active Member
Cool build! Makes me want to revisit The Final Countdown : ) I remember building a Revell one in 1/48 : )
Digging into Jolly Rogers F-14 reference today I had that exact same thought. It would be super cool to do a pair of Cats and convert a couple of T-6 Texans to look like Zeros as they did in the movie (the Texans were actually converted originally for Tora! Tora! Tora!).

There's a very interesting article about the conversion here:

 

crackerjazz

Sr Member
Now is actually the best time to build those Final Countdown "silvery arrowhead shapes" with the advent of all these accurate kits. Like this Tamiya kit that already comes in Jolly Rogers markings, for instance. It took Tamiya just 40 years to fulfill our dreams : )

51873264005_b87b395afd_o.png

Tried making some rear-view mirrors.

51872942149_d88eba8dab_o.png


51872622856_40827f387c_o.png


51872622801_a023dabab4_o.png


51872622846_ba1947a7ec_o.png


51871660987_757e6c254c_o.png


51872702243_9408cc8a88_o.png

Aaawww..the mirrors are not even too visible.. all that work for nothing, lol.

51871661052_66bdff7b7b_o.png


51871661182_d69814a3c8_o.png


51872623041_d64f6fe120_o.png


51872942389_7c2def6a45_o.png


51872623051_33a9948bb6_o.png


51872702398_ba6b34a260_o.png


51872702253_31bc4bf4d1_o.png


51872622951_d2f2164175_o.png


51872702293_20ce4c7088_o.png
 
Last edited:

crackerjazz

Sr Member
I contacted one of the guys who helped with the research for repainting the USS Lexington F-14 display -- Matthew Lawlor. He's a historian and artist and he made some helpful drawings for restoring the F-14 as it looked in the movie although that didn't really happen in the end as he says it wasn't cost-effective to add faux weathering when it was repainted. But the drawing is a really good reference for duplicating the touch-up patterns on Maverick's jet. He's updating the drawings right now -- will post them when he's done. According to Matt the F-14 on the Lexington is one of the actual jets used in the film.

Here's the video from four years ago when the plane was still in Jolly Rogers markings: Link

And some pics during the restoration a couple years ago:

51873114959_a5cfb8b7cf_o.png


51873436090_01daff6a21_o.png


51873436065_dbd430109e_o.png

Just wondering why they replaced the gun ports, though.

51873114984_e1cb2c9ba5_o.png

And they painted the nozzles black.
 

JNordgren42

Active Member
Now is actually the best time to build those Final Countdown "silvery arrowhead shapes" with the advent of all these accurate kits. Like this Tamiya kit that already comes in Jolly Rogers markings, for instance. It took Tamiya just 40 years to fulfill our dreams : )

View attachment 1544566
Tried making some rear-view mirrors.

View attachment 1544567

View attachment 1544568

View attachment 1544569

View attachment 1544570

View attachment 1544571

View attachment 1544572
Aaawww..the mirrors are not even too visible.. all that work for nothing, lol.

View attachment 1544573

View attachment 1544574

View attachment 1544575

View attachment 1544576

View attachment 1544577

View attachment 1544578

View attachment 1544579

View attachment 1544580

View attachment 1544581
Superb! I love the attitude of both jets together on the stand. Extremely dynamic!
 

Analyzer

Master Member
I contacted one of the guys who helped with the research for repainting the USS Lexington F-14 display -- Matthew Lawlor. He's a historian and artist and he made some helpful drawings for restoring the F-14 as it looked in the movie although that didn't really happen in the end as he says it wasn't cost-effective to add faux weathering when it was repainted. But the drawing is a really good reference for duplicating the touch-up patterns on Maverick's jet. He's updating the drawings right now -- will post them when he's done. According to Matt the F-14 on the Lexington is one of the actual jets used in the film.

Here's the video from four years ago when the plane was still in Jolly Rogers markings: Link

And some pics during the restoration a couple years ago:

View attachment 1544620

View attachment 1544621

View attachment 1544622
Just wondering why they replaced the gun ports, though.

View attachment 1544623
And they painted the nozzles black.
I guess they painted them black so they did not rust figuring it was never going to fly again?
 

crackerjazz

Sr Member
Probably, yeah. I think if they gathered volunteers who are scale modelers I'm sure they could do some weathering on that thing : ) They'll need a couple hundred bottles of Model Master Light Ghost Gray, a couple hundred of Dark Ghost Gray, Medium Gray, lots of Black and white for blackbasing and mottling.... : ))

Some more flex shots : )

51874625024_9598b34554_o.png


51873346037_03b72f9c78_o.png


51874625059_0175b34358_o.png


51874385288_c07a59af1e_o.png

Still need to work on the loadout and a little paint fixing. I bent the pitot tube on Maverick's jet, by the way. I did my best to bend it back into shape but another slight touch and it'll fall apart for sure.
 
Last edited:

Your message may be considered spam for the following reasons:

  1. Your new thread title is very short, and likely is unhelpful.
  2. Your reply is very short and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  3. Your reply is very long and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  4. It is very likely that it does not need any further discussion and thus bumping it serves no purpose.
  5. Your message is mostly quotes or spoilers.
  6. Your reply has occurred very quickly after a previous reply and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  7. This thread is locked.
Top