The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook
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Where can I find this?if you jump oin the crossguard addicts group they have a kylo comparison detail which shows what i said above
ShaunP Props
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Just to be pedantic. Being "in the know" isn't the same as solid evidence. I mean comparison pictures from a vintage of that ilk that highlights these things, rather than having to simply take someone's word for it.
Note: Not saying the info provided is wrong or that people don't know their stuff. Simply that knowing it and being able to comprehensively show evidence of it are very different things.
AnubisGuard
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For comparison, here's a 1928 "shiny" Folmer:
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Looks like the finish we see in TLJ to me.
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Looks like the finish we see in TLJ to me.
Not to diagree, but those are practically chrome-- the TLJ is certainly shinier than other versions, but it looks more satin to my eye. Again, as I say in the guide, there is an insane amount of retouching going on in TLJ. Just look at the way the buttons chance on the Luke hero shot to shot in the one scene it's in.
AnubisGuard
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Nitpicky point: Any change in appearance is more likely to be a result of the grade than any VFX tampering. We can assume they had to rebuild the Creepy Uncle in post to replace Hamill's hand. I don't see a reason for VFX to alter the Graflex in every scene, so it's not really evidence of much either way.
Anyway, thanks to Graflex Bank, here's a BTS of the saber compared with the final shot:
The grade crushed the blacks for sure, and increased overall contrast. But the original still looks pretty darn shiny to me.
(Yes, I am aware that VFX would have had to alter this shot to remove the puppet rods and that this potentially undermines the point I made above. Shut up.)
Also, neither VFX nor TLJ's final grade would affect this BTS footage:
Check out how sharp the reflections of her fingers are, especially in the close up. You can see a reflection of the seam in her glove! I'd call that practically chrome, myself.
Granted there are other shots where does look a lot more satin:
Either way, though, none of my three vintage tops are anywhere close to how glossy this one is. I really think this idea should be taken seriously.
I wasnt thinking full VFX, just paint and retouching. Most movies do tons of it. I'm dating a girl who works at Rhythm and Hues and she broke my spirit tonight telling me they did a ton of breast enhancements on Euphoria.
But I don't disagree about the TLJ shiny.
But I don't disagree about the TLJ shiny.
I'm not going to argue with you, save to simply say that saying/typing four things, is not the same as showing supporting images/research that proves those four things definitively. Also since it was suggested to be added to the book, then images would be a great addition as well.
AnubisGuard
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He's done plenty of providing if you take a look at the graflex addicts page, full detail in pictures and explanation, once you see it you can't unsee it.
Joek3rr
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There's at least two "hero" props.
There's this one. I believe this to be the real shiny. It has a tell, on the "beer tab" rivet.
Which is most likely the same prop as this.
The one from TFA was also used. It's in much rougher shape. You can tell that one because it's missing some plating off of the "beer tab" itself.
This is the one that has been put on display.
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It also has some corrosion on the bulb clamp.
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Which we can see in this BTS shot.
There's this one. I believe this to be the real shiny. It has a tell, on the "beer tab" rivet.
Which is most likely the same prop as this.
The one from TFA was also used. It's in much rougher shape. You can tell that one because it's missing some plating off of the "beer tab" itself.
This is the one that has been put on display.
The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Spoilers inside! | Last jedi, Star wars light saber, Lightsaber prop
From the product packaging: https://twitter.com/starwars/status/832229306080169984 [ATTACH] [ATTACH] Looks like it's missing the rivets... thoughts?
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The Last Jedi Graflex Research - Spoilers inside! | Star wars light saber, Last jedi, Lightsaber
From the product packaging: https://twitter.com/starwars/status/832229306080169984 [ATTACH] [ATTACH] Looks like it's missing the rivets... thoughts?
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AnubisGuard
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Can you get a pic of the eye from the side? There's always been something odd about how the TLJ eye threads in and I'm wondering if that matches.
Joek3rr
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TFA? Or TLJ? To my eye that looks like a closer match to the TLJ version.
Joek3rr
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Out of curiosity what the length from the clamp to the end of the can? Mine is about 94mm. The blueprint that Roy worked up say it should be 92mm.
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