The style thread

I'll start by saying, ours is not an affluent town nor one accustomed to finer dress. We work in the woods, on farms or with animals and those few (me) that are working computer jobs get to dress very casual. With that said, I am always surprised to see new, still tagged items, come through our thrift stores. This one popped in at 10 dollars and would slowly discount down to a dollar but, of course, I just paid the 10.

This one got me to thinking on that topic we covered about the kerchief and the tie and should they match vs match the shirt. This jacket has the decorative pocket sewn in place, no wiping my nose with this allowed... I rarely if never wear the tie so I ask, 1) is there an etiquette for pocket decoration vs none when the tie is not present, 2) when the tie is present and 3) Does this permanent decoration bind me (asking for historical etiquette not can I if I wish) to specific shirt and/or tie colors?

The permanent color addition already tells me this must be quite casual already.

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I'll start by saying, ours is not an affluent town nor one accustomed to finer dress. We work in the woods, on farms or with animals and those few (me) that are working computer jobs get to dress very casual. With that said, I am always surprised to see new, still tagged items, come through our thrift stores. This one popped in at 10 dollars and would slowly discount down to a dollar but, of course, I just paid the 10.

This one got me to thinking on that topic we covered about the kerchief and the tie and should they match vs match the shirt. This jacket has the decorative pocket sewn in place, no wiping my nose with this allowed... I rarely if never wear the tie so I ask, 1) is there an etiquette for pocket decoration vs none when the tie is not present, 2) when the tie is present and 3) Does this permanent decoration bind me (asking for historical etiquette not can I if I wish) to specific shirt and/or tie colors?

The permanent color addition already tells me this must be quite casual already.

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1) It's always nice to have a pocket square with or without a tie, probably more so without a tie as you need something to spruce things up in the tie's absence. This would not be the case if you were going for a minimalist look with say, a black suit/shirt combo.

2) The 'standard' practice is that your tie and square should NOT match in color or print (of course there can be overlaps if the tie or square is multicolored). I follow this rule but I'm not hyper critical of other guys that don't. It doesn't look bad, but it can look a little too coordinated and, in that sense, give off a department store mannequin look. As far as fold, it's all up to how fancy you want to get although personally, I don't like the fancy folds, or dinner plate napkin folds if you will lol.

3) Somewhat, yes. You'll be limited to what you can match with that sewn-in square, but that particular fabric does match the jacket well. I mean you can always rip it out obviously but is there a pocket or would ripping out the faux square basically leave an open hole?

I think a nice wristwatch is essential to smart look. The correct watch will elevate any look. I tried the apple watch once and just gave it to my nephew. Yuck. I never leave the house without a real wristwatch on.

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I don't care for smart watches at all. It's redundant considering we all have smart phones. Aesthetically, they're so sterile and uninspired much like the Apple stores from which they're purchased. Also doesn't help that every other person wears one. It's so much more sophisticated, not to mention cooler, to have a dedicated watch on your wrist. With a mechanical watch, you have something crafted that can last for many years, even for life if properly maintained, whereas a smart watch will only last as long as the technical support is there. There's also this insipid push to be connected to the online world in yet one more way. Unless you're counting steps (why is this even a thing?) or monitoring heartrate during exercise (which other wrist devices can do), I don't see the point.

So yeah, I say wear a dedicated wristwatch. Doesn't have to be anything expensive either. Rock a Casio. I often do. I'll take a G-Shock over any smart watch. If we're talking formal, you can find well-made brands like Orient (a Seiko company) for under $200.
 
Yes, not matching the pocket square with your tie is a must. Always match it with the general color of your shirt...or be wild and opt for something, especially without a tie.;)
I tend not to wear a black suit (done for funerals or a fancy tux/suit for special occasions). Dark blue will do:p
I also put the tie clip at the level of seam of the chest pocket. Neater that way.
I don't know why they re-invented the wheel concerning watches. A very good mechanical one will last you a lifetime; no need to throw the batteries into the landfill and, when someone ask you for the time, you'll beat the ones reaching for their phones in terms of speed and style:cool::cool:
 
I'll start by saying, ours is not an affluent town nor one accustomed to finer dress. We work in the woods, on farms or with animals and those few (me) that are working computer jobs get to dress very casual. With that said, I am always surprised to see new, still tagged items, come through our thrift stores. This one popped in at 10 dollars and would slowly discount down to a dollar but, of course, I just paid the 10.

This one got me to thinking on that topic we covered about the kerchief and the tie and should they match vs match the shirt. This jacket has the decorative pocket sewn in place, no wiping my nose with this allowed... I rarely if never wear the tie so I ask, 1) is there an etiquette for pocket decoration vs none when the tie is not present, 2) when the tie is present and 3) Does this permanent decoration bind me (asking for historical etiquette not can I if I wish) to specific shirt and/or tie colors?

The permanent color addition already tells me this must be quite casual already.

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I own 3 Billy London suits. They look great and wont break the bank. I removed the faux kerchief on the Billy London coats. Sometimes I like to wear a nice t-shirt and jeans with a sport coat and didn't feel like it looked right. I've have one jacket I match a floral shirt with the same floral print kerchief, which looks nice.
 
I own 3 Billy London suits. They look great and wont break the bank. I removed the faux kerchief on the Billy London coats. Sometimes I like to wear a nice t-shirt and jeans with a sport coat and didn't feel like it looked right. I've have one jacket I match a floral shirt with the same floral print kerchief, which looks nice.


I definitely love that combo, Tshirt, jacket, jeans. it is a favorite for Keanu and a few others as well.
 
Earlier my wife asked me what I was looking up. Caught me off guard, “Oh, you know. Just Timothée Chalamet couture outfits.”

Her response: “That’s neat. Is it for a project?” :oops:
Roll with it. You just experienced telling the blatant truth and not suffering for it. There must be a silver lining here somewhere.
 
My wife is used to my critique of many...nobody can do a proper tie knot these days, or have straight pointy shirt collars (they all, without a fail, curl as if they were little elbow macaroni):rolleyes::rolleyes: I think I'll buy a new drum kit to spend my frustration on it :p:p
 
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