The Official Boycott Star Wars Bluray thread

[NAZGÛL]

I can no longer hear the man's name without wanting to drop an axe kick into his collar bone.

Nice.

You try to accomplish anything near what Lucas have, and then you have the rights to do what you want with it. Star Wars is Lucas creation, not yours. What we have is because of him.

 

[DanielS]

Just using it as a reason I find him repulsing. I have no proof other than my own personal experience hearing him in an interview say those exact words. It stuck with me for decades.

Well then... since it's your experience then it has to be true! C'mon, give it a rest.
If you want us to believe that then you can at least give us the exact date he said this. Since you claim to know his exact words still. Or could it perhaps be that you remember it wrong?

 

[GDafi]

Will I be buying the bluray versions of all six movies, nope.
I upgraded from vhs to dvd a couple of years ago, and if anyone thinks I am going to pay yet again for 6 movies, tweaked for bluray, then they had better not be holding their breath.
Yip bluray looks better, sounds better, and can give you more features, bujt at the end of the day, I don't buy something for all the extras, I buy it for the movie.

I will give them the Anikin chenge athe the end of ROTJ, but just leave well enough alaone.

I see this thread in 25 years time where we are discussing the second directors third cousin's twice removed audio description of a scene which never even made the bluray version of the movie, and we have another version of this thread.

http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-one.html

Not buying the bluray(gonna wait for the next best thing, or maybe the third or fourth next best thing) before I update my Star Wars collection of the 6 movies

 

[Weequay]

Okay. Instead of threats of violence let's address the problem from a practical stand point.

The GOAL , an HD transfer of the Original 1977 70MM with six channel dolby sound. Right.

So is it possible to just cut the SE into the "right" version? No I bet.

How much sceen time changes?

Really the only footage that needs re-processing in any fashion is whatever is missing of the original cut not present in the SE.

How much footage is that? I bet it's under 10 minutes.

So do that, cut it into your own BR at home and you're done.

That's got to be easier than all this nonsense.

You guys are just going about it all wrong.

For once, I agree with you, and have been thinking along these lines myself.

Shove it all into an NLE. Cut in the small segments from the LD (upscale them and add some noise reduction) where appropriate and bingo!

Then grade the hell out of it as you wish

You will get about 90% of the film in FUll HD with small segments that are at least least watchable.

Weequay

 

[Jeyl]

Phil Tippett on Lucas' tinkering.

Phil: They're sh-t.

 

[bwayne64]

I always liked Phil, now I Love him,

 

[NAZGÛL]

Wow he really seems bitter about CGI. I bet there were people sounding like that when soundfilms took over in the 1930s.

As for Mos Eisley, I'll take the new version every day of the week. Same with the Battle Of Yavin. I like to watch the old version sometimes, as the studio models look so good, but the scenes dont look good enough with today standards.

 

[GDafi]

^ There is no denying that most of the tinkering which has been done to date, has been done to make things better, the Yavin, Tantoonie scenes etc, but one has to ask, when to do you stop tinkering, and when do you just bite the bullet and totally remake the films?

 

[cayman shen]

Wow he really seems bitter about CGI. I bet there were people sounding like that when soundfilms took over in the 1930s.

As for Mos Eisley, I'll take the new version every day of the week. Same with the Battle Of Yavin. I like to watch the old version sometimes, as the studio models look so good, but the scenes dont look good enough with today standards.

It shouldn't look up to today's standards. It's a 34 year old film.

 

[bwayne64]

Look at it this way. Think of how much greater the redemption will be when he comes around.

I think he's just setting you all up for the last big score.

Because despite all the shenanigans, he puts out the OT, all of you WILL buy it.

Darn, you beat me to it, Lucas is thinking, to quote the emperor, " Everything is preceding, as I have foreseen. "

 

[cayman shen]

If he puts out the theatrical OT in hi-def, yes Mic, I WILL buy it. I will buy it the day it comes out. I will buy it with a lump in my chest and tears of gratitude in my eyes. I won't even bargain hunt. I will race to the nearest WalMart and buy it and buy a BR player and race home and watch it. Not only that, GL could more or less name his price. 90 bucks for three movies? Okey dokey George. Love ya, man.

 

[Jeyl]

As for Mos Eisley, I'll take the new version every day of the week.

Because when I hear Luke say "If there's a bright center of the universe you're on the planet that it's farthest from." I think of it having cities exploding with activity, hijinks, speeders roaming around and streets with lots and lots of people. And it's just a space port....

 

[IndyFanChuck]

Have you all heard the JOKE from comedian Patton Oswalt, about going back in time and um.....cough cough...... "ending" George Lucas before he can film the Prilogy?

It's HILARIOUS!

 

[Nwerke]

I didn't know there was such childish hate on this forum.

Nobody twisted your arm to read and post in an obvious rant thread. Relax; the threats of violence are pure hyperbole. The thread is a means of expressing frustrated impotence, not a venue for planning a real-life vendetta.

Aren't imperative sentences a violation of the code of conduct?

lol:lol

But you, and all others who have written in this thread, must admit that this thread could've been so much better and more interesting if we all just acted like grown people?

??? Again, this thread, as the name suggests, is a rant, rave and rage thread. A 'boycott' thread. The majority of people posting here have behaved as one would expect from adults at a pub ranting over a pet hate while downing a beer or two. It's actually the pro-Lucas posters who are being the more offensive IMO. Name calling in a generic rant thread against an outside entity which will NEVER participate or experience hurt feelings is one thing; abusing members of this forum for expressing their points of view is another thing altogether.

Well, for starters saying things like "if these changes are real I will riot" and "I would punch george lucas in the nuts" isn't really a good start for a thread.

It's fine. He's a big boy. He also understands hyperbole.

I stand by my "Nazi bukake" post, however. :lol

As you should, it was pure comedy gold! :lol

I always liked Phil, now I Love him,

So say we all! Well, most of us. The ones with taste. :lol

 

[Jedi2016]

Wow he really seems bitter about CGI. I bet there were people sounding like that when soundfilms took over in the 1930s.

He's not bitter about CGI itself.. Tippet Studio does some damn fine CGI of their own. I think he hates the way George has used it here, especially in cases where CGI replaced perfectly good model shots that took a lot of people a lot of time back in '77 to do (including Tippet himself).

 

[SSgt Burton]

So say we all! Well, most of us. The ones with taste. :lol

Speak for yourself man! Tippett was responsible for Starship Troopers 2! :sick :lol


Kevin

 

[Nwerke]

It's a fair cop! :lol

 

[skithas]

Undecided if I'm going to boycott or not. More than likely I'll succumb at some point in the future.

 

[GINO]

Hitler Learns About the Star Wars Blu Ray Changes - YouTube

lol:lol



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[TK765]

Nice.

You try to accomplish anything near what Lucas have, and then you have the rights to do what you want with it. Star Wars is Lucas creation, not yours. What we have is because of him.

Wrong, Lucas himself said that the films are the publics, read excerpts from his speech below...

He has turned into what he fought to stop.

If he would have just have given people a choice or the originals this wouldn't be an issue.

Boycott these and watch Harmy's 720p despecialized versions. Remember the supplemental stuff will end up on Youtube.

Save Star Wars

"My name is George Lucas. I am a writer, director, and producer of motion pictures and Chairman of the Board of Lucasfilm Ltd., a multi-faceted entertainment corporation.

I am not here today as a writer-director, or as a producer, or as the chairman of a corporation. I've come as a citizen of what I believe to be a great society that is in need of a moral anchor to help define and protect its intellectual and cultural heritage. It is not being protected.The destruction of our film heritage, which is the focus of concern today, is only the tip of the iceberg. American law does not protect our painters, sculptors, recording artists, authors, or filmmakers from having their lifework distorted, and their reputation ruined. If something is not done now to clearly state the moral rights of artists, current and future technologies will alter, mutilate, and destroy for future generations the subtle human truths and highest human feeling that talented individuals within our society have created. A copyright is held in trust by its owner until it ultimately reverts to public domain. American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history.

People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society. The preservation of our cultural heritage may not seem to be as politically sensitive an issue as "when life begins" or "when it should be appropriately terminated," but it is important because it goes to the heart of what sets mankind apart. Creative expression is at the core of our humanness. Art is a distinctly human endeavor. We must have respect for it if we are to have any respect for the human race. These current defacements are just the beginning. Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder. Tommorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with "fresher faces," or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor's lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new "original" negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists have had to go to Eastern bloc countries where American films have been better preserved.

In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.

There is nothing to stop American films, records, books, and paintings from being sold to a foreign entity or egotistical gangsters and having them change our cultural heritage to suit their personal taste.

I accuse the companies and groups, who say that American law is sufficient, of misleading the Congress and the People for their own economic self-interest.

I accuse the corporations, who oppose the moral rights of the artist, of being dishonest and insensitive to American cultural heritage and of being interested only in their quarterly bottom line, and not in the long-term interest of the Nation.

The public's interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests. And the proof of that is that even a copyright law only permits the creators and their estate a limited amount of time to enjoy the economic fruits of that work.

There are those who say American law is sufficient. That's an outrage! It's not sufficient! If it were sufficient, why would I be here? Why would John Houston have been so studiously ignored when he protested the colorization of "The Maltese Falcon?" Why are films cut up and butchered?

Attention should be paid to this question of our soul, and not simply to accounting procedures. Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself.

I hope you have the courage to lead America in acknowledging the importance of American art to the human race, and accord the proper protection for the creators of that art--as it is accorded them in much of the rest of the world communities."