The new TK bucket
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troopermaster
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Judging by all the helmets Gino has ever shown, they are from reworked moulds. They are very nice helmets, but the face is lacking details found on the original helmet is was cast from.
GINO
Sr Member
My V1 and V2 helmets only were missing the tear details, but they were purposely covered up ONLY for faceplates made available to people. Make no mistake, they are still on the mold but I've never made them available with it because the next thing you know, someone will try to recast or emulate it on their helmets. It's one of the few ways left for me to keep the (getting more blurry by the minute) lineage clear.
My molds are the ONLY set taken from the Brian R. helmet that have not been altered in any way.
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TK8410
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troopermaster
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But your moulds are copies of the one that touched the inside of the Brian.R helmet, aren't they?
There is something missing from the moulds (or altered is more correct)
because even on those recent helmets you put on ebay are not the same as the Brian.R original. I admit that the dome and most of the face look spot on, but there is no doubt the original mould that was taken by Dan was altered and every helmet available that I have seen is lacking this feature.
Your helmets Gino, IMO are the most accurate 'looking'. I mean, they have to be considering where your moulds came from, but they are altered none the less.
There is something missing from the moulds (or altered is more correct)
because even on those recent helmets you put on ebay are not the same as the Brian.R original. I admit that the dome and most of the face look spot on, but there is no doubt the original mould that was taken by Dan was altered and every helmet available that I have seen is lacking this feature.
Your helmets Gino, IMO are the most accurate 'looking'. I mean, they have to be considering where your moulds came from, but they are altered none the less.
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What is this feature that is missing on all the reproduction helmets Troopermaster? I have heard it discussed before but no one will say what it is exactly. I guess it is top secret or something? I was thinking it was the bump on the teardrop areas but I guess now it obviously is not.
I suppose I'll just have to buy a screen used helmet to find out.:lol
I suppose I'll just have to buy a screen used helmet to find out.:lol
GINO
Sr Member
Can you show me?
GINO
Sr Member
Yes, they are mold duplicates and they have all the originals features untainted. The original molds while in my former partner's possession, were heavily altered before being sent off. That's when the details were removed and other areas "adjusted". There are no other molds, including the originals, that are unaltered like the duplicate master set I kept.
Those helmets had the tear details covered up, but they are not physically altered or removed on the mold. Other than that, they are exact duplicates to the Brian R. faceplate and cap/back.
I don't know what original mold you are talking about, but the true original molds were made by Mike, long before Dan ever arrived on the scene. All the other fan helmets are lacking this detail because they are all recast from other recast parts that never had those details in the first place, because we removed them.
The most accurate looking? They are the most accurate out there period.
And no, the molds aren't altered.
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Qui-Gonzalez
Master Member
I wanted to hit you with my shoe when you typed "all intensive purposes"...Sorry for the hijackery.
Jumpin Jax
Sr Member
Speaking of hijackery.
Back to your regularly scheduled thread about the best helm I've seen:cool
Although the screen-used one was nice, too
Back to your regularly scheduled thread about the best helm I've seen:cool
Although the screen-used one was nice, too
Keith
Sr Member
Gino, i would have to dig out the pics i took and that may take a while. I probably didn't get a shot of the bumps in the inside if the face anyway.
When i say bumps, i mean the same bumps that are on the sides and back of the caps. You know the texture that looks like braille for the blind.
If you look above the eyes on the inside of the face, you may be able to see them on any interior shot, but the green lens may hide them if thats fitted.
Its no big deal if these bumps are not on a replica, as you cant see them anyway fom the outside. It would just show if the mold had been cleaned up or not, presuming that is that the Brian R helmet even had these bumps. I think it will have them though.
Keith.
When i say bumps, i mean the same bumps that are on the sides and back of the caps. You know the texture that looks like braille for the blind.
If you look above the eyes on the inside of the face, you may be able to see them on any interior shot, but the green lens may hide them if thats fitted.
Its no big deal if these bumps are not on a replica, as you cant see them anyway fom the outside. It would just show if the mold had been cleaned up or not, presuming that is that the Brian R helmet even had these bumps. I think it will have them though.
Keith.
GINO
Sr Member
I hear you Keith.
What sucks is that both the face and cap/back on the Brian R. were on the softer side of the scale of original helmets we've seen. I've seen softer and I've seen sharper. On a scale of 1 being the softest and 5 being the sharpest, I'd say the Brian R. ranks at about a 3.
Of course any original helmet for example could have a super sharp face and a super soft cap/back. Just depends on the randomness of their assembly. We have to talk about the degrees of sharpness in terms of each individual part, and not the entire helmet as a whole.
I'm not saying those bumps/texture aren't there at all on the original helmets, just that they were not very prominent (to the point of not being noticable at all) on the Brian R. The surface area of it is uneven, but nothing like the back/cap that was with it.
What sucks is that both the face and cap/back on the Brian R. were on the softer side of the scale of original helmets we've seen. I've seen softer and I've seen sharper. On a scale of 1 being the softest and 5 being the sharpest, I'd say the Brian R. ranks at about a 3.
Of course any original helmet for example could have a super sharp face and a super soft cap/back. Just depends on the randomness of their assembly. We have to talk about the degrees of sharpness in terms of each individual part, and not the entire helmet as a whole.
I'm not saying those bumps/texture aren't there at all on the original helmets, just that they were not very prominent (to the point of not being noticable at all) on the Brian R. The surface area of it is uneven, but nothing like the back/cap that was with it.
Darth Niob
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Interesting discussion guys but the thread is about Dan's helmet:rolleyes
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
I heard rumblings that there'll be new pictures soon!? Can't wait.
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