Studio Scale TIE Fighter
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imaginager
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Jamie, I'm afraid one of my ISP's upgrades took out those pics. I restored a selection from my build files and put them here:
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?p=633499#post633499
Jamie, I'm afraid one of my ISP's upgrades took out those pics. I restored a selection from my build files and put them here:
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?p=633499#post633499
DARKSIDE72
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
Alan,
You're awesome bro!
J
Any info you can pass along as to the wing construction would be great. Template wise etc..
Alan,
You're awesome bro!
J
Any info you can pass along as to the wing construction would be great. Template wise etc..
vaderdarth
Master Member
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Prop-Fighter, I called Steve to thank him for the superb kit today and he was at work unfortunately. He said to tell you that he will contact you tomorrow and provide you with a tracking number. He also said to mention to you that he marked the customs form per your discussion.
Darkside72, congrats on a fine kit. It really is beautiful, isn't it?
Dave
Prop-Fighter, I called Steve to thank him for the superb kit today and he was at work unfortunately. He said to tell you that he will contact you tomorrow and provide you with a tracking number. He also said to mention to you that he marked the customs form per your discussion.
Darkside72, congrats on a fine kit. It really is beautiful, isn't it?
Dave
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...which is why I'm perplexed why everyone keeps using Hasbro-sized pilots and R2s in their X-Wings. Those figures are 1/18 or bigger.
...which is why I'm perplexed why everyone keeps using Hasbro-sized pilots and R2s in their X-Wings. Those figures are 1/18 or bigger.
vaderdarth
Master Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
I was thinking the same thing Treadwell. That huge monkey Luke head is pretty horrifying to see in that cockpit.
I was thinking the same thing Treadwell. That huge monkey Luke head is pretty horrifying to see in that cockpit.
imaginager
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
No prob. Let's see...I never did make any templates. In fact, long story short, I cut each piece of styrene sheet for the wings custom for the wingstars I'd paired up for each side. ILM has a grand tradition of asymmetry, and I saw no reason to deviate. Congrats on your kit, btw. I had to remove about half the height on each spar/spoke on each wingstar in my kit to get the correct appearance on the wings. I tried to keep a consistent height of 3.0 mm. Looks like the newer kits are good to go out of the box. Cool.
Anyway, you need to select which version of the TIE you want to do, ANH or ESB, because it affects the wing construction. The H-channel on the ESB's rests on the tips of the stars. However, on ANH the wingstar spars/spokes extend all the way out to the outer edge of the H-channel. That variable governs the dims of the styrene sheet. Also, don't forget that the styrene is inserted inside the H-channel, so you need to carefully measure the depth of the channel to get the right dims. I'll say it right now: I screwed up my first set of styrene inner wings. LOL
Once you have all of those components sized and cut, test fit and are happy, then you can use paper to trace each of the 24 templates to cut the Koolshade. This may seem like a lot of unnecessary work, but if you blow it with the Koolshade, you're done: there's only enough material to do 2 wings. Now, when you lay out the templates on the Koolshade, you also need to make sure that the pattern is running consistent - that is, parallel to the outer edge of the wing. I photographed a real TIE to attempt to determine if the shades are up or down, relative to the wing's edge. I forget which way it goes.
Test fit. Test fit. Test fit. And then, test fit some more. I used 5 minute epoxy on mine, and after about a year, I had 2 spars/spokes lift off the Koolshade - they wanted to return to their cast position. So, on the advice of REL I injected some CA and it bonded quite nicely. Epoxy is tough because it wants to "squish" and ooze out from under the spokes if applied with a heavy hand. Less is more. If I had it to do again, I'd try CA first. Oh, make sure you paint your styrene sheets before you fix the Koolshade to the styrene.
That's about all I can think of off the top of my head. I used rare earth magnets to attach the wings to the pylons. Never had any trouble with them and mine has been on display since December 2006!
Sounds like Steve has made some improvements, so I will be anxiously waiting to see more Hero buildups. I gotta tell ya, I cringe looking at the pics of mine, now. This wasn't originally intended to be a kit. Gotta give props to Steve for taking it on and refining it over the years. It was a hell of a job! I wouldn't have had 2 sticks to rub together, otherwise. That said, I'd love to scratch a one-off someday. I have many of the donor kits. But, I have so many SW subjects to finish it will probably never happen. The Nice-N Hero is an impressive finished model.
Good luck Jamie, and everyone else! Let's see some buildup threads...
No prob. Let's see...I never did make any templates. In fact, long story short, I cut each piece of styrene sheet for the wings custom for the wingstars I'd paired up for each side. ILM has a grand tradition of asymmetry, and I saw no reason to deviate. Congrats on your kit, btw. I had to remove about half the height on each spar/spoke on each wingstar in my kit to get the correct appearance on the wings. I tried to keep a consistent height of 3.0 mm. Looks like the newer kits are good to go out of the box. Cool.
Anyway, you need to select which version of the TIE you want to do, ANH or ESB, because it affects the wing construction. The H-channel on the ESB's rests on the tips of the stars. However, on ANH the wingstar spars/spokes extend all the way out to the outer edge of the H-channel. That variable governs the dims of the styrene sheet. Also, don't forget that the styrene is inserted inside the H-channel, so you need to carefully measure the depth of the channel to get the right dims. I'll say it right now: I screwed up my first set of styrene inner wings. LOL
Once you have all of those components sized and cut, test fit and are happy, then you can use paper to trace each of the 24 templates to cut the Koolshade. This may seem like a lot of unnecessary work, but if you blow it with the Koolshade, you're done: there's only enough material to do 2 wings. Now, when you lay out the templates on the Koolshade, you also need to make sure that the pattern is running consistent - that is, parallel to the outer edge of the wing. I photographed a real TIE to attempt to determine if the shades are up or down, relative to the wing's edge. I forget which way it goes.
Test fit. Test fit. Test fit. And then, test fit some more. I used 5 minute epoxy on mine, and after about a year, I had 2 spars/spokes lift off the Koolshade - they wanted to return to their cast position. So, on the advice of REL I injected some CA and it bonded quite nicely. Epoxy is tough because it wants to "squish" and ooze out from under the spokes if applied with a heavy hand. Less is more. If I had it to do again, I'd try CA first. Oh, make sure you paint your styrene sheets before you fix the Koolshade to the styrene.
That's about all I can think of off the top of my head. I used rare earth magnets to attach the wings to the pylons. Never had any trouble with them and mine has been on display since December 2006!
Sounds like Steve has made some improvements, so I will be anxiously waiting to see more Hero buildups. I gotta tell ya, I cringe looking at the pics of mine, now. This wasn't originally intended to be a kit. Gotta give props to Steve for taking it on and refining it over the years. It was a hell of a job! I wouldn't have had 2 sticks to rub together, otherwise. That said, I'd love to scratch a one-off someday. I have many of the donor kits. But, I have so many SW subjects to finish it will probably never happen. The Nice-N Hero is an impressive finished model.
Good luck Jamie, and everyone else! Let's see some buildup threads...
DARKSIDE72
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
Alan,
I hate to be a pest but can you post reference of what you mean here?
Thanks,
Jamie
Alan,
I hate to be a pest but can you post reference of what you mean here?
Thanks,
Jamie
swpropmaker
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
Jamie,
glad you liked what you got. There is a suttle difference in the wing edging between the ANH version and ESB version. The best way to descibe it is look at an side view of a ANH wing... the top of the H beam (that trims the wing edge) ends at the end of the wing star.
On the ESB version the bottom of the H beam (that trims out the wing) starts and the end of the wing star (need u channel to complete to help hide the seem)
So the ESB wing is larger than the ANH wing by the heigth of the H beam.
Steve
Jamie,
glad you liked what you got. There is a suttle difference in the wing edging between the ANH version and ESB version. The best way to descibe it is look at an side view of a ANH wing... the top of the H beam (that trims the wing edge) ends at the end of the wing star.
On the ESB version the bottom of the H beam (that trims out the wing) starts and the end of the wing star (need u channel to complete to help hide the seem)
So the ESB wing is larger than the ANH wing by the heigth of the H beam.
Steve
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Flintlock
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
To my delight, going through my parts bins I see that I have most, if not all, of the parts I need for both the Standard TIE and the Interceptor. I also have most parts needed for an ANH Star Destroyer.
Is anyone supplying Koolshade anymore?
To my delight, going through my parts bins I see that I have most, if not all, of the parts I need for both the Standard TIE and the Interceptor. I also have most parts needed for an ANH Star Destroyer.
Is anyone supplying Koolshade anymore?
imaginager
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
Steve/Jamie: what Steve said. Thanks, Steve. You saved me some photoshoppery. :lol
Ron, I think Steve can hook you up. The vendor is in the UK. You could probably contact them on your own, too...
Coopers
Edward House
Penner Road
Havant, Hampshire
PO9 1QZ
Tel: +44 (0)23 9245 4405
Fax: +44 (0)23 9249 2732
Steve/Jamie: what Steve said. Thanks, Steve. You saved me some photoshoppery. :lol
Ron, I think Steve can hook you up. The vendor is in the UK. You could probably contact them on your own, too...
Coopers
Edward House
Penner Road
Havant, Hampshire
PO9 1QZ
Tel: +44 (0)23 9245 4405
Fax: +44 (0)23 9249 2732
swpropmaker
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
Responded!
Responded!
DARKSIDE72
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
So what you gouys are saying is that on the ANH version there is no U channel? Or am I just being "thick"?
So what you gouys are saying is that on the ANH version there is no U channel? Or am I just being "thick"?
Jamie,
glad you liked what you got. There is a suttle difference in the wing edging between the ANH version and ESB version. The best way to descibe it is look at an side view of a ANH wing... the top of the H beam (that trims the wing edge) ends at the end of the wing star.
On the ESB version the bottom of the H beam (that trims out the wing) starts and the end of the wing star (need u channel to complete to help hide the seem)
So the ESB wing is larger than the ANH wing by the heigth of the H beam.
Steve
swpropmaker
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
Jamie,
I'll give you a call... correct the u channel is one of the differences the other is where the H beam actualy starts. The ANH H Beam ends at the end of the TIE wing stars....
If you look at the esb TIE the H Beam extends past the end of the wing star by almost half its height
Steve
Jamie,
I'll give you a call... correct the u channel is one of the differences the other is where the H beam actualy starts. The ANH H Beam ends at the end of the TIE wing stars....
If you look at the esb TIE the H Beam extends past the end of the wing star by almost half its height
Steve
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Jamie, I doctored the photo to demonstrate what they're saying the ANH version is like:
I left in the scraps from the original image to show how the H beam adds to the wing size. The star is in the same position in both photos.
Jamie, I doctored the photo to demonstrate what they're saying the ANH version is like:
I left in the scraps from the original image to show how the H beam adds to the wing size. The star is in the same position in both photos.
imaginager
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
On the money, Tread!
On the money, Tread!
DARKSIDE72
Sr Member
Re: STUDIO SCALE TIE FIGHTER **UPDATED PICS**
Jay... you earned a big old hug for that LOL. :lol I more or less figured that was the case but wasn't 100% sure. Thanks! I'll start trimming/laying it out tomorrow/today.
Jamie
Jay... you earned a big old hug for that LOL. :lol I more or less figured that was the case but wasn't 100% sure. Thanks! I'll start trimming/laying it out tomorrow/today.
Jamie
