Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Pre-release)

[sztriki]

I'm betting that the Falcon has some experimental shields preventing it from being tracked, or it could just be the Will of the Force.

So did the little crappy craft that hyperspaced to Monte Carlo.

 

[cboath]

I'd have to watch again, but if the equipment for tracking is on the ship that got rammed, then, yeah the COULD move it to another ship, but it's not going to be a done in 30 minutes type of operation.

 

[Joek3rr]

I'd have to watch again, but if the equipment for tracking is on the ship that got rammed, then, yeah the COULD move it to another ship, but it's not going to be a done in 30 minutes type of operation.

Finn says that if they blow up the ship that's tracking them. They'll begin tracking them from another ship. But that's assuming all the FOSDs have trackers.

 

[Joek3rr]

So did the little crappy craft that hyperspaced to Monte Carlo.

Most likely the tracker has to have some sort of target lock first. So a small ship deploying and immediately jumping to hyperspace wouldn't have been tracked.

 

[Joek3rr]

If the hologram that Finn and Rose show Poe is any indication. It's seems that the tracker has a limited range.

 

[Joek3rr]

 

[AJTaliesen]

So the torpedoes must have the schematics of the Death Star loaded in. Because they would have to be programed to fly down the tube. Because the target is at the center of the station.

they don't fly to the center. They set off a chain reaction that eventually his the main reactor.

 

[Psab keel]

Ok that was awesome! And funny.

 

[Joek3rr]

they don't fly to the center. They set off a chain reaction that eventually his the main reactor.

That's not Rogue One says. Or what the briefing in ANH shows.

 

[Psab keel]

Rogue one is overrated.

 

[Egon Spengler]

Rogue One is the best Star Wars film since the originals, in my humble opinion.

 

[Ron]

Rogue one is overrated.

First time I fell asleep watching a Star Wars movie.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

It had potential. I rank it fourth on my personal list, after Empire, Star Wars, and Solo. But I really wish the first cut had been what the higher-ups had gone with.

 

[HeartBlade]

Great, so it seems the people behind the story don’t know how to develop a character.

Redirect Notice

According to this comic, Rey doesn’t need any training to become more powerful than Anakin or Luke. I think it’s clear that this is just terrible writing. To say this isn’t a Mary Sue is now impossible to deny.

 

[ConvergencePro]

Rogue One is the best Star Wars film since the originals, in my humble opinion.

How awful is it that that’s an achievement...

Great, so it seems the people behind the story don’t know how to develop a character.

Redirect Notice

According to this comic, Rey doesn’t need any training to become more powerful than Anakin or Luke. I think it’s clear that this is just terrible writing. To say this isn’t a Mary Sue is now impossible to deny.

I always found it incredibly strange how when people point out how well Rey lines up with a Mary Sue trope they are often labeled as sexist horrible toxic fans by the “True Fans”, but them being ok with Rey just automatically getting all these powers without her needing to go through character defining failures and struggles somehow isn't. By automatically making her this strong its almost like they are simultaneously saying she wouldn’t be able to survive on her own without them otherwise
Idk maybe its just me but it would have been nice to see her struggle, grow and overcome just like Luke and countless other protagonists from a different time in film did

 

[Ron]

According to this comic, Rey doesn’t need any training to become more powerful than Anakin or Luke. I think it’s clear that this is just terrible writing. To say this isn’t a Mary Sue is now impossible to deny.

Joek3rr would you like me to hold your beer?

 

[harrisonp]

Once again I’m falling to my “I don’t care if it’s canon” mode in regards to that comic. What we have seen on screen doesn’t make Rey exponentially more powerful than either Skywalker IMO, even if she has been quick on the uptake.

The Force is space magic repeatedly stressed as working on faith and lack of attachments, both of which Rey has lived on for most of her life. There are things I don’t care for in this era but it isn’t Rey.

I also find discussions of power levels be they from superheroes or Jedi to be pointless. Most of these characters do exactly what the plot needs them to do exactly when it needs them to.

 

[HeartBlade]

Except the Raddus hasn't made the actual jump to hyperspace. It's still in realspace. It's in the process of jumping, but it's not hyperspace yet.

The mass shadow stuff is all Legends. They don't work that way in canon. In The Clone Wars, there's an episode where they are headed for a star, how they avoid impacting it, is by shutting down the ship's systems so they drop out of hyperspace right before the star. If the star's mass shadow would have pulled them out, then there wouldn't have been a need to shut the ship down.

Also when a ship is pulled out of hyperspace, by a mass shadow, the ship stops and quits moving forward. As seen in Rebels.

I don’t know where you are getting this head canon unless they clarify this in the books. Watch the scene again. First Order note she is going into lightspeed. We see her input coordinates like Han has done. We hear the boom which indicates entering hyperspace. If RJ was trying to show she wasn’t in hyperspace, he did a terrible job at it.

The gravity well in rebels was a unique cutting edge technology developed by the empire to get ships out of hyperspace. It makes sense they want the ship to stop or draw them in which they can’t do with a tractor beam. If that were the case, the example in Clone wars you gave didn’t make sense.

Rather as shown in your clone wars clip, it’s likely the star would have pulled the ship out of hyperspace into real space where the Star is, the ship thereby colliding with the star or be close enough that they can’t move away and will collide with the star, ending in a crash.

The thing is we have already seen how effective ship ramming is in the Star Wars universe. In Rogue One, Admiral Raddus orders a hammerhead to ram the star destroyer, pushing it into another to deal ton of damage without damaging the hammer head. We know that force equals mass x acceleration. Imagine the impact of you magnify the acceleration to let’s say lightspeed?

Yeah it’s suicidal and will result in your own ship blowing up But if you are low on resources, in a desperate situation against an enemy with superior firepower like several star destroyers or a death star, go for it.

If you fear for the cost of organic life, go with droids.

 

[HeartBlade]

Here's another canon example of a ship impacting something while jumping to hyperspace.
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Damn I’m spamming. But if this is the case, sure it means the hyperspace as an alternative dimension is wrong. But this isn’t the issue. The issue is how damaging the hyperspace ramming was to spaceship battles.

Look how big that explosion is on the planet. Not sure what the context of this is but yeah, imagine that power directed against the Death Star.

 

[Mr Webber]

Leaving aside the whole experimental shields thing, I feel like the whole reason it worked was A- the element of surprise, and B- the Raddus was close enough to still be in ‘realspace’ when it impacted the Supremacy. If it was ever thought that hyperspace suicide runs might become standard practice fleets would simply deploy Interdictor Cruisers or artificial gravity wells, negating the threat.

And what would the Resistance deploy should the men in black hats decide to use the same tactic? They seem to have a history of taking out Death Stars and StarKillers with their ships so its an issue that may have been raised once or twice at the weekly catered meeting seeing they have an entire fleet of Star Destroyers all of a sudden.