Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Pre-release)

[Scarecrow Joe]

Don't think! Buy product!

Funny. Let me guess, you like the Star Wars classics, right? So, in those movies you accepted and took for granted a flying hamburger shaped ship that reached light speed, guys who had this power of The Force and moved things with their minds and could control other's mind, ships in outer space battles who produced sound in the vacuum of space, etc. Were you thinking at that time, deep meaningful thoughts, you know the ones you apparently have when watching sci-fi? Wait not sci fi but more like a space fantasy movie! You must have very deep thoughts when watching paint dry too. Tell us about them....enlighten us.....

 

[Scarecrow Joe]

Even better: Rey is Ben Solos clone. Or Ben Solo is a clone too and only adopted. And both Rey and Ben were found after Palpys death and Leia and Han adopted him.

Although pretty weird it would bring everything full circle.

PT: Anakin being a force clone created by palpy, to create the perfect Sith apprentice.
Cloning technology perfected.
OT: Cloning experiment and hence sith bloodline failed, secret new cloning experiments
ST: the successful clones duke it out to see one rise to the top and eventually finish what had been started. Sith lineage?

It would even be possible to blend ep8 into all of this, except for that casino sequence.

The fight between Kylo and Rey shown in the trailer would make huge sense if that place was their birthplace. DU-DUNNN!

So SW would be a 9 part series about the force and cloning/creation of life. It would be about identity and what defines man. About destinies and free will. Blade Runner, essentially.

As an adult I like that idea. As a kid I would have hated it for being too complicated. As a dad I must say that I would miss tje innocence of the simple good vs. Evil pattern. Kids need this, things get too complicated in life soon enough.

Kids of today are way advanced in that regard. Themes like cloning, tech in general is natural to them.

 

[Dontdissthefett]

Kids of today are way advanced in that regard. Themes like cloning, tech in general is natural to them.

and so is eating tide pods and snorting condoms. I don’t think kids are advanced as we all like to think [emoji848] [emoji23]

 

[Psab keel]

I think it would make sense for Rey to have a saber staff, but the switchblade is too goofy for me and not all that practical.

 

[Halliwax]

I'm really having a hard time understanding what the point is of Threepio having red eyes.

I'll admit, I'm not thoroughly versed on the canon outside of the films, but I don't recall red eyes being a sign of "evil" droids. Maybe I'm wrong? I dunno, you guys tell me if there was a precedent for this.

Also, we've seen other protocol droids of the exact same style as Threepio. So I don't get it being either a disguise or a sign of an evil version (that maybe isn't even Threepio) -- unless JJ has just decided that we are all too idiotic to understand without some blatant visual reference.

I just can't fathom a good narrative reason for this beyond either the director thinking this looks cool, or thinking that the audience is stupid.

3po was built by nova robotics, when the robots get mad their eyes get red

All seriousness it can be something as stupid as thermo sensing something ... I’m really not upset about it. I just don’t care about this movie anymore

 

[Scarecrow Joe]

and so is eating tide pods and snorting condoms. I don’t think kids are advanced as we all like to think [emoji848] [emoji23]

Kids will always do stupid things, more so where your from apparently! LOL! What I mean is look at the vast amount of info these kids have at their fingertips. How many info you had has a kid....local library? Your encyclopedia Britannica?

 

[Halliwax]

The precedent that came to my mind was Johnny Five when he got mad.View attachment 1052685

Lol we think alike!

 

[Halliwax]

I didn't notice if any one caught this or not. But these aren't your run of your mill I-class ISDs. These appear to have a big gun on them.
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I’ve been saying this before TFA came out “god I wish we had star destroyers with Death Star canons on them!!”

 

[Axlotl]

Funny. Let me guess, you like the Star Wars classics, right? So, in those movies you accepted and took for granted a flying hamburger shaped ship that reached light speed, guys who had this power of The Force and moved things with their minds and could control other's mind, ships in outer space battles who produced sound in the vacuum of space, etc. Were you thinking at that time, deep meaningful thoughts, you know the ones you apparently have when watching sci-fi? Wait not sci fi but more like a space fantasy movie! You must have very deep thoughts when watching paint dry too. Tell us about them....enlighten us.....

Star Wars was a fairy tale. And if you're so superficial that you got nothing out of those films beyond "layzor sordz r KEWL!" then I just feel sorry for you. But I'm also a little angry with you, because as long as you keep buying whatever crap they're shilling without questioning the quality or integrity of their product, they'll continue serving us garbage. You are aware that you're in the minority, right? The majority of Star Wars fans hate these new movies. By supporting them you are helping to ruin it for EVERYONE.

 

[NeoRutty]

*edit* Being surly.

I’m unapologetic about my love of the central characters. Looking forward to this.

 

[PantheraGem]

Arguing about Star Wars is why the internet was invented.

 

[Joek3rr]

I think it would make sense for Rey to have a saber staff, but the switchblade is too goofy for me and not all that practical.

Until you try to run with a double bladed saber hanging off of your belt and it comes down smashing your knee cap. This design is so much more practical for carrying on your belt.

 

[BorgHive]

im surprised no one has mentioned this yet but I watched this new trailer on my 4k tv and that fleet of star destroyers are different than all the others we've seen, they have red markings along the top of the hull lengthwise from front to rear, bet these are the ships carrying the red sith troopers...

 

[Psab keel]

We never actually see any characters running with a saber staff swinging from their belt so I don't think it's a problem that really needs solving by creating a switchblade designed hilt.

I want to see Jar Jar show up at the end battle and shoot lightning out of his teeth. So essentially whenever he opens his mouth someone gets electrocuted.

 

[HMSwolfe]

Until you try to run with a double bladed saber hanging off of your belt and it comes down smashing your knee cap. This design is so much more practical for carrying on your belt.

You know what never smashes into your knees? A regular lightsaber. Double-bladed is kind of too much no matter how you slice it. Relying on showing us a “cool” new lightsaber is the same kind of flashy, no-substance tactic from the prequels. “Look, a double-bladed lightsaber!” “Look, a purple lightsaber!” “Look, a robot using four lightsabers!” And hey, none of those things is necessarily bad, when they make for good spectacle, which is an important part of film. But it has to serve the story, ultimately, not detract from it, and that new lightsaber looks dumb and not practical. Why would you need something so convoluted? It can’t possibly afford any advantage. The crossguard saber had the benefit of making sense from a tactical point of view, despite people’s reactions to it when it first appeared. Not to mention hearkening back to the roots of the inspiration for Jedi as knights, and representing a realistic weapon. This new thing just looks difficult to use. The production design of the sequel trilogy has just been so off, in my opinion. For every decent design, there’s thirty half-hearted or straight-up uninspired designs. Rogue One and Solo both got the feel of Star Wars down, how come the ST can’t?

I do want to stress that I am not personally attacking anyone (no bad feelings Joek3rr) just because I disagree with them, or think the movie won’t be great or that the prequels weren’t great. I think it’s possible (and should even be encouraged) to have debate and conflicting opinions and perspectives, and even though Star Wars is something I’m sure all of us feel very passionately about, we should still be able to treat each other with respect.

Okay, stepping down from my soapbox.

 

[Psab keel]

I was confused by the cross guard design of Kylo's weapon when I first saw it and it did make for some funny memes and gifs, but I thought it was a fun variation on the concept. In fact the unstable blade seemed to lend itself to a good visual representation of Kylo Ren's unstable personality and I just assumed that the vents on the sides were to keep the thing from blowing up in his hand because it was so unbalanced.

In all it worked for the story and the character. Pretty cool stuff. Even though I hate the ST, there are elements like that I find to be very well thought out.

This just feels silly to me. A switchblade lightsaber because Rey switches sides? Youwsa! So clever!

I take my earlier statement back. I don't want Jar Jar to shoot lightning out of his teeth. I want that new slug character to have that ability. He looks so bad ass!! Perhaps not even from his teeth but from the tentacles coming out the sides of his face.

 

[Joek3rr]

The anger and overall complaining in these threads is funny/nuts.

We watched at work and all were generally a positive vibe.

These threads are just so much whining. Imma bounce from checking out this thread and stick to Rey’s tsaber breakdowns in the props section and talking about it at work.

Miserable animators are less negative.

Crazy.

If you were to boil down all the complaints about Star Wars, the majority would fall in one of two groups.

'It's to similar to the other films why can't they do somthing new?'

Or

'It's to different, why can't they be like the other films?'

 

[Psab keel]

MOAR!!!!!!

 

[HMSwolfe]

If you were to boil down all the complaints about Star Wars, the majority would fall in one of two groups.

'It's to similar to the other films why can't they do somthing new?'

Or

'It's to different, why can't they be like the other films?'

I mean, that’s kind of a reductive view of the way that really any sequel operates. By definition it has to be more of the same and something new, it just has to hit those places right. I mean, no one dislikes Episode V, right? Because there was a continuity in the aesthetic feel of the film, there was a similar family fun space adventure feel, etc. But it also moved in new directions. It allowed itself to change course from A New Hope. It allowed itself to tell a different story. That is where the complaints are coming from. The ST has been telling the same stories without capturing the feeling or the look of the other films. So yes, a sequel should be the same and yet new; it just feels to a lot of people that the ST (and the PT) got that “same yet new” formula reversed. To be honest, that’s one of the reasons I’m excited for The Mandalorian: one of Star Wars original primary inspirations is the Western genre (and if you need any more proof, watch The Searchers with John Wayne). The Mandalorian looks like it will go back to this lawless, wild frontier time. That excites me. The ST is getting a little too far removed from reality for me, like a little bit too much of a big epic fantasy (not in a good way). That’s why the OT worked so well; it was a “strange attractor”. It had elements of Flash Gordon, WWII, Westerns, and mythic fantasy. It was a crazy mismash of so many different sources that it could appeal to an enormous wide audience. The ST is too scatterbrained and inconsistent. So far, we’ve had a soft reboot with some genuinely likable characters but not a very complex or even satisfying plot (TFA), an interesting return to some of the themes from the OT and a new direction for Luke (divisive as it was) but with some questionable execution (TLJ), and now a clustercuss of bizarre images and plot elements that are kind of getting out of hand (TROS).

Not to mention adding new characters to appeal to children. Damn you, George, and your Ewoks. Now we’ve got yet another comic-relief droid hanging around BB-8 and a weird slug friend for Chewbacca.

 

[jkno]