Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Money can be made utilizing the same universe with new stories just as easily. There really is nothing special about the story of Anakin Skywalker, as has been mentioned it's an archetype, a well vetted tale. The OT/PT is over and for the most part the majority of the movie going public is satisfied with the story. Star Trek, to use another franchise that did sort of receive a reboot, was in comparison a vast and sprawling array of content that had become unwieldy and unmanageable and needed a fresh start. I don't see the 6 SW films suffering the same issues. So no reboot but they will most certainly build off the OT and feature familiar OT characters in this upcoming release.

I don't disagree with you. I think you can "reboot" the series by simply telling other stories aside from those involving the OT/PT characters. That, in and of itself, is basically a reboot.

But that said, the original stories themselves are solid and, at a certain point, Disney will think "These movies look too old to bring in new fans. REBOOT!!!" and simply re-tell them. Why? Well, why NOT?

I totally agree. There's so much else that they can expand to. Aside from this story as long as there's good guys, bad guys, and lightsabers there will be a market for it.

Again, I agree, but look at this discussion itself. Look at how many times people have said "But then you can't call it 7-9!! It has to have the OT characters if it's 7-9!!"

What I see in that is people wanting to "go back" to the old Star Wars, but in a new way. What better way to do that than to reboot it? Right?! RIGHT?! And the thing that studios have realized is that reboots sell. Half the work is already done anyway, since you've got a story/script ready to go that can just be tweaked for "more modern sensibilities." Then it's just a question of fresh faced actors and the latest F/X.


Why work, when you can reboot?

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Again, I agree, but look at this discussion itself. Look at how many times people have said "But then you can't call it 7-9!! It has to have the OT characters if it's 7-9!!"

That's why I said "aside from this story".

I think they're pretty much locked in calling them 7,8,9.

Personally I'd be happy to see all new but the majority of the fan base wouldn't. I was referring to once they're done the 9 episode Skywalker story.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Yeah I am also proceeding under the assumption the next three films will be an intentional continuation of the Skwalker story that will morph into an entirely new character tale by the end.

 

[niennumb1]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I don't see Disney bashing the classics and tossing them aside like they don't exist. I think they'll continue it and treat the old ones with care.

Song of the South is now a very controversial Disney film and never released to DVD/Blu-Ray, but they didn't reboot it or excuse it as anything that ever existed. They did make an entire ride with characters from it on Splash Mountain.

I honestly can't think of (it's still early in the morning, haha!) a Disney film they tossed aside and re-did. They've definitely done lots of sequels, but I'm trying to think of one film (not counting animated films translated to live action versions) they rebooted.

They could have easily rebooted Tron, but instead left that film alone, treated it as a basis for Legacy and paid great homage to the classic and kept it going. I think they could do a great job passing the torch in the next trilogy if they do it carefully. Knowing what i've seen from Disney I don't think they'll be very sloppy about it.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Hasn't Lucas already re-booted the films himself?

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Hasn't Lucas already re-booted the films himself?

In a matter of speaking! :lol

 

[cboath]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

1. Is there any shred of evidence of Disney dictating to Marvel or Pixar? I know that part of the purchase agreement with Pixar was to make cars 2 and Ts3, but it was a purchase agreement thing. They were working on a deal for distribution like they had a originally and it evovled into a purchase. But aside from that, disney lets the companies run themselves without interfering. Pixar was different as it was part merger as well.

2. Has disney ever rebooted a film of their own? All this reboot talk, maybe if they had a penchant for doing it, but i don't think they ever have.

3. I've said before in order to be 7-9 it has to have a direct connection. The entire OT cast doesn't have to be there, but there has to be a real tangible connection.

Imagine if the existing ones were made in proper order 1-6, the only connections we would have known from 3-4 would have been luke/leia who were infants on the screen in 3 that had about 10 seconds of screen time as your major characters. Supporting roles of R2/3po and the killing off of the only major character we knew of from the prequels - obi. And yes, we'd know the other main character was now anakin as darth. Darth, though, was relegated to a fairly minor role in ANH. Essentially, E4 did focus on new characters with an enemy that carried over.

There's no carry over enemy from E6 to 7, so any carry over is limited to those from OT. And nothing says it has to be all. Could just be luke. But, telling the story of the cloudflyer family from the other side of the galaxy, for example, isn't an E7, it's just a whole other flick.

 

[Contec]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

There's no carry over enemy from E6 to 7.

Surprise surprise!
The emperor survived his fall down the shaft!!!

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Surprise surprise!
The emperor survived his fall down the shaft!!!

Instant No Button! Star Wars funnies FTW!

 

[Bigdaddy]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Surprise surprise!
The emperor survived his fall down the shaft!!!

4th quarter conversion to the light-side?

 

[Jannix Quinn]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I don't want to see-

Others in the roles of Luke, Leia etc.
Original Old People doing action hero stunts.
Shia LeBouf
Yuzhan Vong (or whatever they're called)
A crap-tonne of CG.
R2D2 flying

Things I do want to see-
Luke, Leia etc, but briefly.
A good story
Minimum Jedi
The Millennium Falcon

 

[dt23]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

RPFers, I give you Ep VII....

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Shouldn't Jango be headless?

 

[dt23]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

no, it's Disney... it's a kidz show.

 

[aeonpulse]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

But... if it takes place after Episode VI, shouldn't Fett be much older? Oh, I get it, it's from one of Fett's flashback scenes.

 

[Edwardowan]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

This works for me. If he sports a beard he seems more "wise jedi master" to me.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Kinda reminds me of Alec Guinness. :thumbsup

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Yes yes and yes. That would be awesome if he was sporting that look.

 

[Bigdaddy]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

This works for me. If he sports a beard he seems more "wise jedi master" to me.

Yeah, thats all kinds of cool!!thumbsup

 

[Psab keel]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

In my opinion a remake and a reboot are two very different things. You can't reboot a single film. Total Recall was remake. Not a reboot. Only a franchise or series of films can be rebooted.

Unless there is a legitimate reason for a film(s) to be remade/ rebooted, then I don't think they should do it. And NO, outdated special effects is NOT a good reason to remake/reboot a film series. You can forgive a film for bad effects if the story is strong. But no matter how good an effect is, it can't save a bad story.

I don't see Disney attempting to remake Star Wars. Making sequels and spin off films make the most sense. There is a vast universe of characters, worlds, and story material to work with, so why go about messing with the existing canon (aka the two trilogies)? I mean yeah, it all comes down to money for any corporation (it is called show business after all) , but wouldn't it be in their own financial interest to just leave the current stories be and just make new ones in addition to them?