Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)

[rodneyfaile]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I wish Disney would just do two things.

1- Release the unaltered original trilogy on blu ray to appease the die hard fans.
2- Just reboot the whole franchise.

The reboot is going to happen eventually. You know it is. Why not just skip over this movie. I would rather remember Han, Luke, and Leia when they were young.
Film the reboots all at one time like Peter Jackson did with LOTR for continuity. You might even be able to find a few pieces from the prequel trilogy to include.

THEN continue on with making more sequels without waiting 30 years between!

 

[Reelo]

Film the reboots all at one time like Peter Jackson did with LOTR for continuity. You might even be able to find a few pieces from the prequel trilogy to include.

THEN continue on with making more sequels without waiting 30 years between!

You know, that is actually a decent idea. From a certain point of view...
As long as they remain true to the originals visually (meaning keeping ship etc design identical)


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[Too Much Garlic]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Honestly, I don's see the issue with the gender, as long as it works for the story. Lucas continually mentions that he turn things on its head from what he did earlier in the series, even though much of it is basically giving different characters the exact same arch - Solo/Lando.

Sure we are used to the father/son or mother/daughter dynamic, but I'm seeing nothing wrong with a father/daughter dynamic. Hell... just family dynamic with father/mother/daughter dynamic could work well.

As long as it works for the story and the writer is good enough to create an interesting character then I'm all for it. If it doesn't work and it's just a gimmick - male written role played by female - then it's pretty pointless.

 

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

No argument here. My statements are more that of prediction. Namely, that if Disney is hell-bent on recreating the OT or tying the films to the OT -- for example, through the trotting out of old characters -- then they'll probably stick largely to established formula and go with a male protagonist with daddy/mentor issues of some sort.

That's not to say that you couldn't tell a terrific story about a female protagonist, without regard to her family, and have it be plenty compelling. I just don't think they're gonna do that.

 

[Bigdaddy]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I wish Disney would just do two things.

1- Release the unaltered original trilogy on blu ray to appease the die hard fans.
2- Just reboot the whole franchise.

The reboot is going to happen eventually. You know it is. Why not just skip over this movie. I would rather remember Han, Luke, and Leia when they were young.
Film the reboots all at one time like Peter Jackson did with LOTR for continuity. You might even be able to find a few pieces from the prequel trilogy to include.

THEN continue on with making more sequels without waiting 30 years between!

rebooting to OT would drive me crazy (I know it will come to that someday) at least give us the restore OT on BR before stomping on a classic. I like the way PJ filmed the LOTR at one time for continuity, and I think thats how they should do the next 3 SW films. I don't think there is enough audience for a reboot of the OT right now, and the temptation would be there to stick Hayden in that rediculous vader suit again.
NOOOOOO!:behave

 

[Laspector]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I don't have a problem with which gender the hero is as long as he/she is not a child. Should be about Luke's age in ANH. Please God, no Hit-girl type jedi stuff!! If they go that route--I am out 100%!

 

[Bigdaddy]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I don't have a problem with which gender the hero is as long as he/she is not a child. Should be about Luke's age in ANH. Please God, no Hit-girl type jedi stuff!! If they go that route--I am out 100%!

Depnds on what you consider a child, Luke was "too old to begin the training" according to Yoda in ESB. The Jedi prefer to start training very young (how else can you brainwash somebody with that BS. :lol ) When I 1st saw SW (before it was ANH) I thought of Luke as a "grown-up" now I see him as a kid. To start off the new films with a fully grown and realized Jedi would make it difficult to relate to his/her story (for me anyway). I don't find a kid doing crazy backflips and levitation any harder to swallow than an adult doing those things. Its really going to depend on the quality of acting.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

For the life of me I can't even remotely fathom why they would bother rebooting Star Wars films. That makes no sense whatsoever .

 

[Bigdaddy]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

For the life of me I can't even remotely fathom why they would bother rebooting Star Wars films. That makes no sense whatsoever .

Agreed, but....it'll happen eventually, theres money to be made

 

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

For the life of me I can't even remotely fathom why they would bother rebooting Star Wars films. That makes no sense whatsoever .

Because...

theres money to be made

Everything is subject to a reboot when money's in the mix.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Money can be made utilizing the same universe with new stories just as easily. There really is nothing special about the story of Anakin Skywalker, as has been mentioned it's an archetype, a well vetted tale. The OT/PT is over and for the most part the majority of the movie going public is satisfied with the story. Star Trek, to use another franchise that did sort of receive a reboot, was in comparison a vast and sprawling array of content that had become unwieldy and unmanageable and needed a fresh start. I don't see the 6 SW films suffering the same issues. So no reboot but they will most certainly build off the OT and feature familiar OT characters in this upcoming release.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

For the life of me I can't even remotely fathom why they would bother rebooting Star Wars films. That makes no sense whatsoever .

Well, basically ANH and the latter half of RotJ is the main original script. So... doing the original script and you'll have most of ANH and then the latter part of ANH mixed with the second half of RotJ but with Wookies instead of Ewoks and you'd have a nice standalone 3+ hour movie.

Not saying I'd ever want to see that done.

 

[Riceball]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Money can be made utilizing the same universe with new stories just as easily. There really is nothing special about the story of Anakin Skywalker, as has been mentioned it's an archetype, a well vetted tale. The OT/PT is over and for the most part the majority of the movie going public is satisfied with the story. Star Trek, to use another franchise that did sort of receive a reboot, was in comparison a vast and sprawling array of content that had become unwieldy and unmanageable and needed a fresh start. I don't see the 6 SW films suffering the same issues. So no reboot but they will most certainly build off the OT and feature familiar OT characters in this upcoming release.

That doesn't matter though, movies are rebooted all the time regardless of how messy their canon has become or hasn't. Warner rebooted Batman after only 4 movies, that's you if consider all of the pre-Nolan Bat films as one series. Superman has now been rebooted twice, the first time after only 3 films and Spiderman has been rebooted after only 3 films too. Then there's Total Recall, rebooted after only 1 film and thus no crazy, convoluted back history to sort out.

If Disney, some time down the line, sees that there's money to be made by rebooting Star Wars you can guarantee that they will. They didn't buy the franchise just for nostalgia and to treasure it as some great piece of film history, they bought it to make money and to that end they'll do whatever they want with it in order to do so. There will also be any number of the other usual excuses such as bringing the series to a new generation of viewers, updating it so that it's more relevant and/or relatable to the current generation, as well as wanting to present a new, fresh take on an old franchise. In the end though, it will all about the money.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Yeah I understand but I just don't see this as being very likely. Super hero movies have more in common with Trek insofar as they are based on decades worth of comics. I just don't see any real market for a reboot of the story of the Skywalkers.

 

[Bigdaddy]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Yeah I understand but I just don't see this as being very likely. Super hero movies have more in common with Trek insofar as they are based on decades worth of comics. I just don't see any real market for a reboot of the story of the Skywalkers.

Man I wish you were on the panel at Disney, we need somebody to argue this to the brainless marketiers in mouse ears!

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Assuming the next film trilogy is a success and creates new hero's and villains that resonate with fans, from a marketing standpoint there will be plenty if fertile grounds to put to the revenue plough.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Assuming the next film trilogy is a success and creates new hero's and villains that resonate with fans, from a marketing standpoint there will be plenty if fertile grounds to put to the revenue plough.

I totally agree. There's so much else that they can expand to. Aside from this story as long as there's good guys, bad guys, and lightsabers there will be a market for it.

 

[seelsa73]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Warner rebooted Batman after only 4 movies, that's you if consider all of the pre-Nolan Bat films as one series.

The Batman series lost it's way when it went to 60's Adam West TV camp starting with Batman Forever, that's why they rebooted with Begins

Superman has now been rebooted twice, the first time after only 3 films

Superman is about to be rebooted for the first time (in terms of movies anyway) and the original series had 5 films - Returns was NOT a reboot, it just ignored III and IV. They rebooted it because Returns didn't make as much money as the studio would have like (those damn money grabbers, i like SR, despite what fans of the Superman character say)

Spiderman has been rebooted after only 3 films too.

U got me with that one, i have no idea their reasons for that...although i did like the new one.

Then there's Total Recall, rebooted after only 1 film and thus no crazy, convoluted back history to sort out.

That movie doesn't have the crazy large fan base to worry about like the others you've mentioned so that's not even in the ballpark.

If Disney, some time down the line, sees that there's money to be made by rebooting Star Wars you can guarantee that they will. They didn't buy the franchise just for nostalgia and to treasure it as some great piece of film history, they bought it to make money and to that end they'll do whatever they want with it in order to do so. There will also be any number of the other usual excuses such as bringing the series to a new generation of viewers, updating it so that it's more relevant and/or relatable to the current generation, as well as wanting to present a new, fresh take on an old franchise. In the end though, it will all about the money.

I highly doubt rebooting the franchise was part of the deal George Lucas signed i find it extremely hard to believe that they'll ever reboot SW...at least not any time in the next 100 years or so.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Also, with Batman, Spiderman, Superman, and other films of that sort you get reboots because the story focuses on one character as opposed to a universe like Star Wars does. It comes to a point that either the cast changes too significantly or you run out of stories to tell.

You don't have that problem with Star Wars. It's a big galaxy with plenty of characters in it.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Yeah super hero movies lend themselves quite readily to reboots of their origin stories. Very different kettle if fish.