Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)
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Curmudgeon
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Yeah I think any SW remakes would be a bad idea and to be honest I don't think its really necessary. We all know the general story arc of the PT and its easy enough to just avoid referencing some of the poorly received details such as Jar Jar or midichlorians (at least in any film that takes place after the PT). I imagine this is what they did for the new film.
astroboy
Master Member
Exactly. There's no reason that we can't have some of the alien species or relics of republic tech in this film. Could they have had ashoka become a Yoda like figure? Possibly, if done correctly.
Subtlety would be the key
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astroboy
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The thing that makes star wars way better than comic books is that it doesn't get rebooted. We just keep getting more chapters of one story.
There really is no such thing as continuity in comics. They just keep retelling the same fables over and over again
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so tired of comic book reboots... stop bringing dead characters back marvel! let them be
astroboy
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Totally. Star wars is sacred. Even the prequels. Even the bad parts of the prequels.
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annanake
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yeah for now it has only been 30 years in another 30 when someone has a "genius idea " to reboot the most successful franchise ever with the stars of the day we all know deep down inside they will do it.
search your feeling you know it to be true.
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O.K. 40 years maybe even 50
but
they like money .
what i think would be cool is if they did different stories not related to the skywalkers at all or any of the characters we know of today. instead of rebooting just have the universe of stories grow
astroboy
Master Member
Absolutely. All they need to do is change the scale of the story, or the time frame. What is going on 100 years earlier?
Or on one planet?
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I would like to see the PT flat-out remade from scratch.
Think like an oral-tradition storyteller from centuries ago. They would not think about the rights & wrongs of stealing another person's work, intellectual property legalities, marketing demands of a trailer, etc. None of the filmmaking & franchise concerns would even be on the radar. They would simply DO THE BEST POSSIBLE STORY even if it means hopping in & out of the existing version at will.
It's not happening any time soon. But maybe once George Lucas has passed on, and another few years have gone by . . .
Think about it. Darth Maul & Obi-Wan & Mace Windu, without JarJar & Count Dooku. Coruscant without the half-dozen forgettable planets. A whole new backstory for Boba Fett, as big or small as we want. Yoda without his lightsaber dueling. A different depiction of young Anakin entirely. Keep the Pod Race. Etc.
Think like an oral-tradition storyteller from centuries ago. They would not think about the rights & wrongs of stealing another person's work, intellectual property legalities, marketing demands of a trailer, etc. None of the filmmaking & franchise concerns would even be on the radar. They would simply DO THE BEST POSSIBLE STORY even if it means hopping in & out of the existing version at will.
It's not happening any time soon. But maybe once George Lucas has passed on, and another few years have gone by . . .
Think about it. Darth Maul & Obi-Wan & Mace Windu, without JarJar & Count Dooku. Coruscant without the half-dozen forgettable planets. A whole new backstory for Boba Fett, as big or small as we want. Yoda without his lightsaber dueling. A different depiction of young Anakin entirely. Keep the Pod Race. Etc.
this would be tough... what would happen to the clone wars? we could erase too much stuff, jedis still have to have the tattoonie robes... the clone wars have us locked in
PantheraGem
Sr Member
This has gone to a very bizarre place.
KrangPrime
Master Member
arrggh,,, damn tuner malfunctioned. missing the ama star wars tribute. hope it's on full somewhere. someone in the audience in the lower left hand corner was really conducting the show from his seat. ;o).
JoMamma_Smurf
Master Member
HOLY CRAP!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSjkUzlHxK4
I'd have to disagree there. I recognize the Prequels more as a "have to be accepted" thing than anything remotely near sacred. The first rule of sequels is to not contradict or undermine what came before (unless it's a significant story-related plot twist). George has been doing that since ROTJ. I have a hard time seeing sacredness when the maker isn't respecting his own works, or his audience. *shrug* And even for the good bits in the Prequels, just the underlying timeline contradicts George's own notes in order to cram everything into just three films. For all that he talks about how he's "telling what happened"... Originally the Clone Wars were a decade-plus-long series of related conflicts (hence the plural), Anakin was older and met Obi-Wan later when the latter was also an older and seasoned Jedi Knight, the wars continued a bit after the Declaration of Empire, and the Jedi Purge happened an appreciable span after that. And Luke and Leia weren't related -- Luke's sister was someone else (not gonna get into the whole Vader/Anakin as separate characters thing -- that's a revision that I think adds rather than detracts)...
...But now everything gets rushed up, Anakin is much younger than he's supposed to be, and the Declaration of Empire occurs on the same day as the end of the Clone War which happens at the same time as the onset of the Jedi Purge which is also the day Luke and Leia are born. Plus Jar-Jar. If the Prequels (and ROTJ) were remade in a way that let the story unfold organically instead of cramming too much into too little running time, that, I think, would have as much sacredness as the first two films.
Over in the Force Awakens spoiler thread, someone commented on finally seeing an alien fighter pilot, when there were three (plus several female pilots) filmed for the space battle in ROTJ. They all ended up on the cutting room floor, largely -- but not entirely -- for run-time reasons. How I would have loved to have seen a truly epic Battle of Endor that wasn't chopped up with the ground battle and Luke's confrontation with the Emperor, and that hadn't had to fight for space with a first act that should have been its own separate film. I know ILM achieved a new record with the space battle we did get, but I can track only about thirty or so fighters, much of the cockpit interior/model exterior stuff doesn't jibe (for instance, Grey Leader is also apparently Red Two), we never see the four (!) B-Wings after the initial approach to the Death Star, and the ships that go with Lando's call are all Red Group, from tracking the battle -- Gold "Group" seems to consist entirely of the Millennium Falcon.
Seriously nitpicky stuff, I know, but when things like that are "out of place", the subconscious notices. I wonder what might have been if they'd had more time to work on that part of the story, and if George had taken the time (or hired someone he trusted to take the time) to storyboard out the whole battle with who was supposed to be where when, and thus avoid much of that confusion. That's the difference, to me, between something someone did just to get it over with, and something that could actually be considered sacred.
But I know that viewpoint is hardly universal -- especially on here.
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Wait. Just caught this. "An a capella group"? You're seriously calling Pentatonix "an a capella group"? I think you need to spend some time on YouTube researching. Minus 50 geek cred.
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