Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)
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crabra comander
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I believe, just like with the PT's, George was limited to practical FX. In reality, the Ewoks should have been like the cross breeding of Honey Badgers and Spider Monkeys, resulting in the culmination of the most vicious genital ripping primates on the planet Endor. So OT SE should have CGI'd Ewoks displaying the physical prowess of said monkeys.
So, as it stands, I don't think clones or conscripts should be unable to defend against them. However, perhaps from a military standpoint, the Ewoks were so close to the "frontline" as to have essentially reached the actual main base area. Essentially, they bypassed all the FOB's and were already in the airbase, which would be less prepared to mount an assault and would be more suited to a lock-down. Just my two pennies.
JD
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According to some sources, the Emperor changed the name when the galaxy went from a Republic to an Empire.
JD
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I didn't say it was in the movies. I said "according to sources." There is no explanation in the movies - I don't think that the names suggest anything.
glunark
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Well if you have to go outside the movies to clear things up in the movies, then the movies themselves are vague enough for people to draw their own conclusions as to whether or not stormtroopers are clones, and there is no right or wrong answer that is cannon to the films themselves until something in a film makes them cannon.
Which episode 7 appears to be doing.
Which episode 7 appears to be doing.
joshvanrad
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That is amazing. So much nostalgia.
kegas76
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Cause calling them Stormtroopers in the 70's instantly told you that the Empire was as evil as Nazi Germany. So clonetrooper may be a good name literally, it doesn't build the scene correctly.
Clone or recruits, it doesn't really matter, I'm happy to play devil's advocate. Stormtroopers kill and they die, who cares how they got their genetics?
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OldKen
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Here's concrete cannon proof from the movies.
Post PT, Lucas insisted on using Temura Morrison's voice for Boba Fett because he wanted to be clear that he was a clone of Jango...
The troopers still have different voices.
Because they aren't clones.
I wonder... JD, do you ever find yourself in a field litterally arguing with a fence post?
Post PT, Lucas insisted on using Temura Morrison's voice for Boba Fett because he wanted to be clear that he was a clone of Jango...
The troopers still have different voices.
Because they aren't clones.
I wonder... JD, do you ever find yourself in a field litterally arguing with a fence post?
JD
Master Member
Now, that's a solid point and the best argument for Stormtroopers being more than just Jango Fett clones I've really seen here.
I wonder if oldken managed to come up with this all by himself? Outside of this one comment, I tend to get more rational discussion from that fence post...
JD
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You asked a question for which there is no real answer. For all we know, the general public did call Clonetroopers Stormtroopers.
I do agree that this is what TFA is doing... I'm only saying that kinda screws up the original intent.
glunark
Sr Member
We don't know the original intent though do we?
If the prequels had never happened noone would assume the stormtroopers were clones because there is no evidence of that.
With the prequels you only have clones who wore very similar armour 20 years earlier.
The clones age rapidly, by the time of a new hope all the clone wars clones would be elderly men, or dead.
If the prequels had never happened noone would assume the stormtroopers were clones because there is no evidence of that.
With the prequels you only have clones who wore very similar armour 20 years earlier.
The clones age rapidly, by the time of a new hope all the clone wars clones would be elderly men, or dead.
OldKen
Master Member
You get bonus points for having a good sense of humor JD.
That made me actually LOL.
I think myself and most here get what you are saying... But you thinking that most people think ot troops as clones is just wrong.
Before the PT, during the pt, and after the PT....
I always assumed the OT troops were conscripted normal average Joes...
I never thought to myself 'oh stormtroopers are all clones'! NOT ONCE.
Why wouldn't they have called the wars "the storm wars"? LOL
seelsa73
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I'm not taking a stance one way or the other in this debate because I don't think its all that important in the grand scheme of things, but I always figured the growth acceleration of the clones stopped as soon as they came "off the assembly line" so to speak. As in when their training was complete and they left the cloning facility to go into the field. They didn't really go into detail about that in any canonical source that I remember, so it could just be my interpretation.
OldKen
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That's what I always guessed as well.
I'm sure they brought it up in a PT tech journal etc. I just never personally read one way or another for a fact.
Even though I think there are little to no jango clones left by ep4. It would be really dumb to have them old and grey after 2 years in service!
I'm sure they brought it up in a PT tech journal etc. I just never personally read one way or another for a fact.
Even though I think there are little to no jango clones left by ep4. It would be really dumb to have them old and grey after 2 years in service!
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Sorry if this has been posted, but the trailer as it should have been.
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