Star Wars Andor (Disney+ TV series)

[Usagi Pilgrim]

Disney is airing the first 2 ANDOR episodes on their networks & Hulu. Awesome that some higher ups recognize the quality of the show & want as many as possible to see it.

Disney Wants You to Watch Andor So Much, It's Putting It on Network TV and Hulu

Only the first two episodes will be available beyond Disney+, but this is still a big deal.

gizmodo.com

 

[joberg]

Realistically she would allow dude to keep talking as long as he could keep giving insight and information. She's an information agent. In an outside setting the information he may have could be used for personal gain as there are no other eyes and ears attached. The only fault I see with her handling of the issue is to push him away. He is a valuable and disposable asset with insight to inerworkings of a system she is investigating. Thus far its the biggest ball drop all around.

Maybe...maybe her strategy is to reel him in when needed. She sees him as the "needy" type, ready to do anything to get some kind of recognition.
His intel might be right, but his approach might not impress her. This story between them is not over, of course. In due time, he'll come running back to her when she'll whistle.

 

[Jodo]

Maybe...maybe her strategy is to reel him in when needed. She sees him as the "needy" type, ready to do anything to get some kind of recognition.
His intel might be right, but his approach might not impress her. This story between them is not over, of course. In due time, he'll come running back to her when she'll whistle.

That’s what I imagine as well. There’s no way she doesn’t see him as at least somewhat of a useful asset. Even if he is incredibly dispensable, she can still use his personal vendetta against Andor to her own benefit.

Also:

 

[robstyle]

I have to differ. His obsession with her was out of left field and seemed tacked on. Could be that was a ball dropped in editing but really out of nowhere. If what you are referring to as her using him based on his obsession comes true that's a grade school soap opera ploy. Not really fitting in with the tone of the series. The fact he was missing from the escape episode makes me believe he will feature heavily in the series finale. If I have to guess he will be Mr Sacrafice Simp if the obsession arc plays out.

 

[Master Boda]

Disney is airing the first 2 ANDOR episodes on their networks & Hulu. Awesome that some higher ups recognize the quality of the show & want as many as possible to see it.

Disney Wants You to Watch Andor So Much, It's Putting It on Network TV and Hulu

Only the first two episodes will be available beyond Disney+, but this is still a big deal.

gizmodo.com

It might be a good quality show but the reason for airing the first 2 episodes is because the show keeps tanking in viewership.The higher ups need more people to watch it and hopefully for them more people tune in rather than tune out. I can’t say anything about the show Andor as I have not watched a minute of it, I have had a opportunity to watch but don’t care about it or anything Disney Star Wars anymore.

Reading this thread does sound like Disney might have finally got Star Wars right,but after BOBF and OWK, I personally am like “ game over man” in my best Bill Paxton voice. I am glad others are enjoying it.

 

[robstyle]

The show is good, but yes to little too late. I don't have a must see attitude or really care if a second season happens. Sadly we finally get a series without lightsabers and such, it's good, and I don't care much. I've never been a fan of lightsabers and Jedi/Sith lore. The next series, let's see where that goes and if andor will remain the only one of its kind. I've no hopes for Asoka, don't care, acolyte, don't care, animated shows, don't care....
That's how bad the prior films and series have left the state of star wars. Just don't care.

 

[alluvial damper]

Why the two first? D+ launched the first three for a good reason

This will just fuel the narrative that it's "slow and boring" when there's no payoff

 

[monsterpartyhat]

It might be a good quality show but the reason for airing the first 2 episodes is because the show keeps tanking in viewership.

That narrative was due entirely to one report from Parrot Analytics, which they admitted later was the result of a data entry error. The latest report shows the viewership is just above The Mandalorian, and no-one's complained about that (and that's using data from 3 weeks ago).

TV series demand across all television platforms for the U.S. (15 - 21 October, 2022)

For the week of October 15 - 21, \nGame of Thrones\n remained at the top of the chart after a minor 3% increase in demand made the show 106.8 times more in demand than the average series. The prequel of the perennially series, \nHouse of the Dragon\n, also saw a 9% boost in demand this week...

www.parrotanalytics.com

 

[monsterpartyhat]

Sorry, theres a newer report than that - I don't know why I ended up on that page as the latest.

Slightly higher in the report from Nov. 11:

TV series demand across all television platforms for the U.S. (05 - 11 November, 2022)

A 58% increase in demand saw \nThe Crown\n come back into the rankings this week, quite expectedly. The fifth season of the show premiered on November 09, two years after the last season aired. Given that this was a hotly anticipated release, it is very likely we will continue seeing demand for...

www.parrotanalytics.com

 

[Treadwell]

Imagine if we saw another level of that facility, and that floor was just breaking those racks down into separate pieces…essentially having a prison assemble and disassemble the same things over and over as punishment.

I had the same thought.
I've seen complaints elsewhere that it's some kind of failing that we've never been told what those things are. I disagree. Not knowing is the POINT. The prisoners don't know, so neither should we.

 

[Paul Andrew]

Finally got caught up. Show gets better each episode. Definitely the best Star Wars has been on TV.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Not sure is this article has been posted before, but I agree:

Where Is ‘Andor’s’ Massive Audience? Blame Disney for Too Many Bad ‘Star Wars’ Stories

 

[Master Boda]

Sorry, theres a newer report than that - I don't know why I ended up on that page as the latest.

Slightly higher in the report from Nov. 11:

TV series demand across all television platforms for the U.S. (05 - 11 November, 2022)

A 58% increase in demand saw \nThe Crown\n come back into the rankings this week, quite expectedly. The fifth season of the show premiered on November 09, two years after the last season aired. Given that this was a hotly anticipated release, it is very likely we will continue seeing demand for...

www.parrotanalytics.com

I guess that’s the funny thing about the internet is to many different stories.StarWarsnews and countless other sights have said that Andor ratings are not good and that is why Disney is showing the first 2 episodes for free.For every website that says things are great,a dozen more says things are not great.Who knows dude.

 

[monsterpartyhat]

Yeah -- and I just realized that's comparing the viewing rates of Andor now to viewing rates of The Mandalorian now; looking back in time to when the Mandalorian episodes were debuting, that was about 2X what Andor's doing now. So - it's respectable, but not as high as Mando. Which I don't find surprising.

Blame Disney for Too Many Bad ‘Star Wars’ Stories

Hahah, I'll happily do that. I'm happy they've gotten good things like The Mandalorian and Andor (especially Andor, I love it so much), but holy CRAP have they messed up a lot. I'm amazed at how little plan they had when taking over what's probably the biggest IP ever. Like wow.

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

Irish.. I think.

She is Irish.

 

[Jamesfett]

I looked at all the statements, numbers, analytics, and all other data to see why Andor is not bringing in the numbers Disney feels it should, and thus putting it on their other platforms. It took a little work but I figured it out. The show sucks.

Okay hang in there and here me out.

I have mentioned before that I don't like this show, but that it is very well done, and I am genuinely happy for so many people finally having a Star Wars show they like.

Here is the problem. Most people find the show slow, boring, and missing most of what makes Star Wars Star Wars. The lead character has never been particularly popular. I really don't remember seeing people on the boards, forums, reddit, in life, etc. sayin they want to see more of Andor.

Oh, yeah he is a cold blooded killer who has murdered three people he did not need to. One was his ally. Apparently Andor has never heard of knocking someone out. Not what I think of when I think of Luke Skywalker, Han, and Leia. Luthen Rael admits he is as bad as the Empire. Fantastic speech but does not change the fact that he is no better. The excuse that it's necessary is B.S.. You can fight bad guys without becoming them.

I know and have heard all the reasons here people love it and that is great. No one needs to start calling me names or insulting me. This is just my opinion on why this show ain't exactly bringing in the viewers.

No one really asked for a prequal about how the Death Star plans were stolen. Honestly before Rogue One did anyone ask for this story.

Some of the reasons listed here for loving this show are the very reasons no one else likes it. No force, Jedi, very little action, lots about Mon Mothma's marriage. We know more of her back story than any other character in Star Wars with a few exceptions.

I really loved Luthen Rael's ship for the three minutes we saw it.

Anyway that is my opinion on why it's not being watched a lot.

Okay let the hate flow through you.

 

[Paul Andrew]

I recognize your first paragraph as snark... But boiled down it reads as "the show isn't doing numbers because I don't like it" and that's maybe not the actual point you're making.

But otherwise, sure. I think Star Wars is big enough to do stories without Jedi or the force hanging over them and that stories without those things lend a layer of credibility to the universe.

To me, it's like Marvel breaking out and doing different types of stories within it's canon. There's a lot of space to do all kinds of things.

 

[Mottrex]

She is Irish.

Roll on ep11 Woop Woop!
Or maybe Pew Pew is more appropriate

 

[Jamesfett]

I recognize your first paragraph as snark... But boiled down it reads as "the show isn't doing numbers because I don't like it" and that's maybe not the actual point you're making.

But otherwise, sure. I think Star Wars is big enough to do stories without Jedi or the force hanging over them and that stories without those things lend a layer of credibility to the universe.

To me, it's like Marvel breaking out and doing different types of stories within it's canon. There's a lot of space to do all kinds of things.

Yes, snark it was.

I totally agree. Different Star Wars stories are great. As long as they don't trash or change canon I am good even if am not into them. I am just saying it really should not be a mystery why this show is not bringing in big numbers.

Like I have said it is a very, very well done, and the cast is amazing. Just not exactly a trench run thrill ride.

When a friend and I played the movie quote game I always won as I quoted the "boring" part of the movie. I always said, "you mean the part with the plot."

I sincerely love that fans have something to like even if it's not my cup of blue milk.

 

[Jamesfett]

BTW I like Ms. Marvel, except for the last episode, and I have had Marvel fans actually try to kill me over it. Untrue story, but I do like that show. I even liked Captain Marvel. Sorry.