Spider-Man pattern size issues and zipper location

How tall are you?
I am pretty much exactly 6 feet.

So there really is a normal file and a smaller file? In that case I'll just try and contact Ordahar again and see if I can resolve it. Mine is pretty much 27 inch as well on the pattern file..and I rather not mess around too much with resizing it myself before I mess it up completely.
 
I am pretty much exactly 6 feet.

So there really is a normal file and a smaller file? In that case I'll just try and contact Ordahar again and see if I can resolve it. Mine is pretty much 27 inch as well on the pattern file..and I rather not mess around too much with resizing it myself before I mess it up completely.

According to Orhadar, he only has one size of file that he sends out... but my file measurements were smaller than at least two other people who showed me their file measurements.
 
According to Orhadar, he only has one size of file that he sends out... but my file measurements were smaller than at least two other people who showed me their file measurements.
Right...That's just odd. I have seen how some people on her resized the file. So I can get the 29" on the torso area. But that also means everything else became bigger, and I just don't trust myself with that. At least I have some time till I send it off for printing to figure things out and hopefully get Orhadar's help.

So the 27.5 file was too small. By how much would you say it was too small if you had to guess?
 
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Yeah there really isn't much consistency in these files. Even from the same person!
So I printed out on paper the original Orhadar ASM 2 pattern and then the bootleg version I found which also should fit me (6').
while Orhadar's pattern measured 27.44" the bootleg measured 29" for the same distance.

So at this point I am convinced the bootleg is closer to what my size should be. However I still may resize it closer to 30-31" to be safe.

Still confused about where to put these zippers :unsure
 
Still confused about where to put these zippers :unsure

What do you want out of your zippers... most comfortable fit, or ability to zip the costume without any help?

Down the center spine = most comfort
U-shape (starting in armpit, straight down the sides and then across the back of the belt) = easiest to zip without any help.
Mask zipper down the middle of the back of your head= ability to take the mask off but it's still atached/webs line up nicely
 
I just resized Orhadar's symbiote pattern. I used the numbers (height and width) from my Spiderman pattern that Sonjou's did and when I did that it looked way to short and fat. So used the ruler tool on the Sonjou pattern and kept changing the height and width for the symbiote until the ruler numbers matched. I'm hoping it works lol Will find out when I get my print from FOD in the next couple weeks
 
I just resized Orhadar's symbiote pattern. I used the numbers (height and width) from my Spiderman pattern that Sonjou's did and when I did that it looked way to short and fat. So used the ruler tool on the Sonjou pattern and kept changing the height and width for the symbiote until the ruler numbers matched. I'm hoping it works lol Will find out when I get my print from FOD in the next couple weeks

What size was the distance between the eyes and the belt line for you? Please keep us posted on your progress!
 
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Just got my Orhadar print ordered at FoD. Took me quite some hours with the resizing, but I hope that what I got to now will be alright. Set Photoshop's Print Size to actual real life inches and measured the pattern out roughly to my measurements. Thought I could do this for days, but also take a risk and order a print and see how far off or close I will be. The measurement from in between the eyes to the belt line is now about 29 and half inch. Here is me hoping it will turn out alright.
 
Just got my Orhadar print ordered at FoD. Took me quite some hours with the resizing, but I hope that what I got to now will be alright. Set Photoshop's Print Size to actual real life inches and measured the pattern out roughly to my measurements. Thought I could do this for days, but also take a risk and order a print and see how far off or close I will be. The measurement from in between the eyes to the belt line is now about 29 and half inch. Here is me hoping it will turn out alright.

I ordered mine as well on Monday. I'll post some pics up of the paper layouts I made to help determine the size. After MUCH research and resizing, I went with 30" to be on the safe side. Even if it is a tad larger, I can always trim it down - you can't add spandex once it's cut. Hopefully this will fit!
Keep us posted Wezzulus on yours.
 
I just read this thread and had a sinking feeling in my stomach. I too had an ASM2 Orhadar print and sent to Fabric on Demand about 2 weeks ago. According to my tracking #, I should be receiving the suit today. Problem is that I just checked the measurement of the file I sent to FOD and it measured 27.4" from middle of mask to bottom of belt. Really bummed I didn't check before I sent to FOD but I just naturally assumed it would be 29". Guys, PLEASE check the sizing before sending out!
 
I ordered mine as well on Monday. I'll post some pics up of the paper layouts I made to help determine the size. After MUCH research and resizing, I went with 30" to be on the safe side. Even if it is a tad larger, I can always trim it down - you can't add spandex once it's cut. Hopefully this will fit!
Keep us posted Wezzulus on yours.
Will do. It will be send of to Trophywife, since I live in the Netherlands and it will just be closer by if it goes to her. She will measure it for me and see how it will match up to my own measurements. Still deciding if I should get it sewn up right there and then as well to try it on or have it detailed when the measurements are alright. Only half a inch difference between our files then, I'm curious to see how it will go with both our prints. It's a great quality pattern, we'll make it work I'm sure. :) Good luck.
 
I just read this thread and had a sinking feeling in my stomach. I too had an ASM2 Orhadar print and sent to Fabric on Demand about 2 weeks ago. According to my tracking #, I should be receiving the suit today. Problem is that I just checked the measurement of the file I sent to FOD and it measured 27.4" from middle of mask to bottom of belt. Really bummed I didn't check before I sent to FOD but I just naturally assumed it would be 29". Guys, PLEASE check the sizing before sending out!

Though I haven't been on this site officially for a long time, I have noticed over the past year or so that many people have had sizing issues with certain patterns. It seems to apply more to the guys such as myself who are over 5' 6" tall.
I am just wondering why no one has really brought up this issues before? That is a LOT of wasted time and money!

I should have have my material back from FOD in a week so I will keep you all updated once it arrives. I'm taking it over to my seamstress that day! (She has already been warned! Heheheheh...)
 
I just got the pattern directly from Orhadar and sent my own measurements to Fabrics on Demand. Am I the only one who didn't do any resizing myself?!

My suit came out perfectly - a little tight in some areas but, according to posters here, that's to be expected
 
I just got the pattern directly from Orhadar and sent my own measurements to Fabrics on Demand. Am I the only one who didn't do any resizing myself?!

My suit came out perfectly - a little tight in some areas but, according to posters here, that's to be expected
I think that's just luck, mate, Fabric On Demand doesn't ever do any resizing, they just print the file you provide them with. Seems you're the size of the standard pattern. *shrug*

I feel bad because I get a LOT of people messaging me with questions about re-sizing and I've never been able to help them since I haven't really needed it and don't have experience adjusting sizes in photoshop. My proportions are similar to the base used by most pattern-makers, so I've always just asked for the file to be matched to my overall height and all of my suits have fit well.

I talked to MCL34N about it recently and he agreed that one of the problems is that the suit patterns aren't really designed to accommodate a wide-range of body types or heights. From the very beginning.
Most pattern makers are basing their work on the pelting layouts of the film suits, but the film suits are designed to match a very narrow range of heights for one principle actor and the handful of stunt performers who are chosen because of their similarly-sized frames. They are essentially tailor-made garments designed for one person's body, and the layout and proportions of the pieces are reverse-engineered from that person's physique. So if the pattern is used to fit somebody else's body well, much of the work has to be re-done from scratch, as any simple scaling fix will create a host of other fit issues. The "will fit people within this range of heights/weights" is kind of a myth, since the suit material should only have a little bit of tension in it at a resting body position, so that the stretch of the material can be utilized when the performer moves and contorts and climbs. If you stretch that same suit it onto a larger or taller person, a good deal of the material's stretch will be taken up just by fitting the user into the suit, and then little is left to allow them to move, and the surface details and fasteners are under a tremendous amount of strain. If used on a smaller person, the proportions will end up strange and there will be a lot of bunching and wrinkling.

There's no simple solution if we keep basing patterns off of one or two layouts from the film suits (the majority of patterns are still using the pelting layout from an old swiped "Spider-Man 2" file from 2003). The only way to guarantee a well-fitted suit is to design the original print file to match the physique of the client. Which is why hopefully there will be more trends towards sharing how to design a file for yourself, rather than how to make somebody else's file work ON you.
It will probably be a pretty steep learning curve (I'm just starting to discover a little bit about it, myself) but it would result in much better suits in the end.
 
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Oh wow, I had no idea!

Trophywife did get measurements of my arms, waist, chest etc too, which i'm sure also played a big part in making sure it fit.

The only area I feel was very tight was actually the heels of the feet on the lycra. But that was after I'd put uppers inside.
 
Oh wow, I had no idea!

Trophywife did get measurements of my arms, waist, chest etc too, which i'm sure also played a big part in making sure it fit.

The only area I feel was very tight was actually the heels of the feet on the lycra. But that was after I'd put uppers inside.

Just out of curiosity, how tall are you Morbius and your weight if you don't mind? And which pattern are you using? I'd like to start making a list of sizes vs patterns used and see if I could throw together a very BASIC general sizing chart for everyone to reference before sending a pattern off to be printed.
 
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I think that's just luck, mate, Fabric On Demand doesn't ever do any resizing, they just print the file you provide them with. Seems you're the size of the standard pattern. *shrug*

I feel bad because I get a LOT of people messaging me with questions about re-sizing and I've never been able to help them since I haven't really needed it and don't have experience adjusting sizes in photoshop. My proportions are similar to the base used by most pattern-makers, so I've always just asked for the file to be matched to my overall height and all of my suits have fit well.

I talked to MCL34N about it recently and he agreed that one of the problems is that the suit patterns aren't really designed to accommodate a wide-range of body types or heights. From the very beginning.
Most pattern makers are basing their work on the pelting layouts of the film suits, but the film suits are designed to match a very narrow range of heights for one principle actor and the handful of stunt performers who are chosen because of their similarly-sized frames. They are essentially tailor-made garments designed for one person's body, and the layout and proportions of the pieces are reverse-engineered from that person's physique. So if the pattern is used to fit somebody else's body well, much of the work has to be re-done from scratch, as any simple scaling fix will create a host of other fit issues. The "will fit people within this range of heights/weights" is kind of a myth, since the suit material should only have a little bit of tension in it at a resting body position, so that the stretch of the material can be utilized when the performer moves and contorts and climbs. If you stretch that same suit it onto a larger or taller person, a good deal of the material's stretch will be taken up just by fitting the user into the suit, and then little is left to allow them to move, and the surface details and fasteners are under a tremendous amount of strain. If used on a smaller person, the proportions will end up strange and there will be a lot of bunching and wrinkling.

There's no simple solution if we keep basing patterns off of one or two layouts from the film suits (the majority of patterns are still using the pelting layout from an old swiped "Spider-Man 2" file from 2003). The only way to guarantee a well-fitted suit is to design the original print file to match the physique of the client. Which is why hopefully there will be more trends towards sharing how to design a file for yourself, rather than how to make somebody else's file work ON you.
It will probably be a pretty steep learning curve (I'm just starting to discover a little bit about it, myself) but it would result in much better suits in the end.

Exactly Luna! You hit the nail on the head and the reason for this thread.
One size does not fit all! BUT I would like to try and help out future spiders and at least create a chart that shows type of pattern used vs height and weight. That way people don't send off their patterns blindly for hundreds of dollars, wait two weeks and get back something they can't use at all.

Custom patterns is the way to go if you can. I'm fairly proficient in Photoshop but no clue when it comes to pattern sizing. I did do a general resizing on mine and praying my amazing seamstress can work her magic on proper fitting next!

I greatly appreciate everyone's input so far and hope to get more feedback and dimensions from people as well.
 
Just out of curiosity, how tall are you Möbius and your weight if you don't mind? And which pattern are you using? I'd like to start making a list of sizes vs patterns used and see if I could throw together a very BASIC general sizing chart for everyone to reference before sending a pattern off to be printed.

Hmm, I suppose i'm about 160 lbs - i'm around 11.6 stone.

I'm approximately 5foot9 as well.

I suppose it might just be luck that the suit fit so well, though Orhadar mentions in his resizing guide that the print fits anyone between 5.9 and 6.1, so there was no need for me to go about resizing.

When FoD got back to me after I gave them my height measurement, they simply said ' The file was resized to your dimensions per the instructions you provided."

Then, I measured my calves, waist, upper chest, shoulders and arms for Trophywife.


Edit: I'm using the Ultimate Spidey pattern
Also, I'm quite slender, though i'm about 17 weeks in a new bulking workout - I have a similar frame to Lunaman (though without the Hollywood abs - seriously how did you get those lol)

Edit two: these were the measurements I sent directly to Trophywife:

Chest - 36 inches
Bicep - 11inches extended
Waist (two inches below belly button) - 33 inches
Hips (around fullest part and butt) - 37 inches
Mid thigh - 20.5 inches
Calf - 14 inches
 
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