So technically, whos saber is it?

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This bloody Graflex world is doing my head in ;)

Is this Anakins saber? Lukes saber - or Reys? Ive seen all the stories floating about on the net about Rey MAYBE being a Kenobi, so why would the saber call to her if she isnt a Skywalker?

Im looking to build an ESB and ANH saber, but does everyone really consider Reys a big enough variation from the ESB saber to warrant its own place ? Will we get another change in the next movie :)

Im sure Disney are going to release a Graflex type replica soon, when they realise the profit to be made.
 
For those of you who haven't seen the movie yet, (which you're crazy if you haven't) SPOILERS FROM HERE ON!

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For me, I still consider it Luke's at the end of TFA. Since Rey goes there to return the saber to him, she has the intent of returning what is rightfully his. She still chooses to wield her staff as her primary weapon at the end of the film, and keeps the saber in her bag. Until the next movie comes out and it blatantly shows her using it full time as her primary weapon, I won't consider it "Rey's lightsaber." You could still call it Anakins if you really want to, but since he "transformed" into Vader and constructed a new lightsaber to embody his new life and alignment, it has never been Darth Vader's lightsaber. IMO, at least :)

Also, if you can't figure out which one to build, I'd say stick to the ANH or TFA. The glass eye is way better compared to the two red buttons. At the point, it's just preference. I have all 4, (ROTS, ANH, ESB, & TFA) but that's because I'm fickle and super indecisive about which I like better.
 
Well put Jax, I agree. I would say this is Luke's since he's the rightful owner. I would also say the ANH is the easiest and least expensive to build. Someone paid $160 the other day for a red button, I needed a button and ears and it made financial sense to just buy a 2 cell. I would go ANH if you like the bubble strip or TFA (a little more grip work, circuit board card) if you prefer the circuit boardand knotched grips. 99% of people can't tell the difference between ANH/ESB/TFA lightsaber. If you were thinking of building more than one I would make the OWK then a Vadrer. I would rather have one of each than 3 Luke's.
 
From an in-universe point of view, I consider every variation of the lightsaber to be The Lightsaber of Anakin Skywalker.
As I see it (or choose to interpret it), every Jedi builds himself a special lightsaber as one of the trials on his path to becoming a Knight. This lightsaber was the one that Anakin Skywalker built so that he would become a Knight and as such it serves as a symbol of Anakin's knighthood in the Jedi Order. A Jedi could also build other lightsabers but none of those will be as special.
When Anakin became Vader then he seized to be a Jedi and the symbolic connection between the physical person Anakin/Vader and the lightsaber was severed.

Then whoever has it in his/her possession or uses it later does not change that it is Anakin's lightsaber.
As an example in the real world: the Sabre of Charlemagne has for generations been the property of the Habsburg dynasty where it has served a ceremonial function but that does not change that it is the sabre of Charlemagne -- not the sword of any king that has inherited it.

As a collector, I have chosen to keep only one variation of every prop that is supposed to be unique within the universe it is in. Therefore, the in-universe view is also the view I use for my collection.
I have also converted my Graflex parts in non-destructive ways so that I could convert it from one variation into another and back again.
 
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Luke's lightsaber is his green one he constructed prior to RotJ. The saber he used and lost in ESB is the one he inherited from his father. Regardless of his use of it, it was never Luke's saber. It is Anakin's.

Also... don't get why anyone would connect Rey with Kenobi - he died nearly a decade before Rey could have been born.
 
Also... don't get why anyone would connect Rey with Kenobi - he died nearly a decade before Rey could have been born.

Cuz he knocked up a local, and she birthed Rey...

Thus the end of TFA is the second time a Kenobi has handed that saber to Luke, and why Obi's ghost says "Rey, these are your first steps" in her vision.
 
According to Wookiepedia, it belongs to Anakin Skywalker.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Skywalker's_lightsaber

"That lightsaber was Luke's and his father's before him, and now it calls to you."―Maz Kanata, to Rey

Skywalker's lightsaber was a Jedi lightsaber constructed by the Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars. It was wielded in some of the most pivotal events in galactic history and was passed down to Luke Skywalker during the Galactic Civil War and Rey during the conflict between the First Order and the Resistance. The blue-bladed weapon, powered by a kyber crystal, made use of a blade stabilizing ring surrounding the blade emitter.

Anakin Skywalker constructed this lightsaber shortly after the Battle of Geonosis, the battle that sparked the Clone Wars. He used it throughout the war's three years, dueling such enemies as the Sith Lord Count Dooku—whom he ultimately killed with the weapon. Anakin turned to the dark side of the Force and became the Sith Lord Darth Vader, and for a short time he continued to use his Jedi lightsaber. After Vader was severely injured during his duel with Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi on Mustafar, Kenobi took the weapon with him when he went into exile and, two decades later, gave the lightsaber to Luke Skywalker. Luke used the lightsaber for three years during the war with the Galactic Empire, until he lost it in a duel with his father on Cloud City.

The lightsaber fell into the bowels of the city, where it was recovered and found its way into the hands of the pirate Maz Kanata. The lightsaber called to Rey, a young Force-sensitive, but she rejected it at first and so it was briefly gifted to her companion, Finn. After Finn attempted to duel the dark warrior Kylo Ren, Rey finally picked up the blade and defeated Ren with it. She soon returned the lightsaber to Skywalker, who had been in exile for many years and was sought by the Resistance for the fight against the First Order, as a symbol of hope.
 
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Luke's lightsaber is his green one he constructed prior to RotJ. The saber he used and lost in ESB is the one he inherited from his father. Regardless of his use of it, it was never Luke's saber. It is Anakin's.

Also... don't get why anyone would connect Rey with Kenobi - he died nearly a decade before Rey could have been born.

Its all over the net bud. People are saying she is Kenobis grandchild!!! :) im thinking Rey is around 20, which means that she was born 10 years after ROTJ, and i think ROTJ is 4 years after ANH. People are saying that because the Jedi were basically wiped out Obi got a little giggity goo on Tatooine and he may have be Reys father.

Back onto the topic of sabers, my favorite has always been ESB as i feel it looks better with the grips etc. However, im getting tempted to build the history of them.
 
So what part of "died over a decade before Rey could have been born" does not make sense to you?

Lol. Reminds me of Trigger in 'Only fools and Horses' when he said his dad died 10 years before he was born:D

In all fairness the rumour mill doesnt help much, and it gets confusing. For all we know she could be a descendant of Shmi Skywalker, which is something ive thought...
 
A lot of things are all over the net. And people jump to the wildest conclusions based on... their own desires.

Is it possible? Sure. But to state anything as fact at this point is just stupid.
 
So what part of "died over a decade before Rey could have been born" does not make sense to you?

Oops. Now before you get all pissy. I mistyped.

Obi knocks up a girl and birth's Rey's mother.

Sorry for the mistake... I don't believe my answer was attacking you, so not sure why the snark.
 
Luke's lightsaber is his green one he constructed prior to RotJ. The saber he used and lost in ESB is the one he inherited from his father. Regardless of his use of it, it was never Luke's saber. It is Anakin's.

Also... don't get why anyone would connect Rey with Kenobi - he died nearly a decade before Rey could have been born.

Also who is to say that she isn't Kenobi's granddaughter, just cause he was a hermit doesn't mean he couldn't have had a family at some point. Plus if Clone Wars is accurate he had a brother.
 
Also... don't get why anyone would connect Rey with Kenobi - he died nearly a decade before Rey could have been born.


Also, you asked why anyone would connect the two... I don't see why people thinking that makes the connection FACT. Everyone is just guessing or making predictions...

So I don't don't know why you're calling out people as "Stupid".

Chill out, I guess is what I'm saying.
 
Oops. Now before you get all pissy. I mistyped.

Obi knocks up a girl and birth's Rey's mother.

Sorry for the mistake... I don't believe my answer was attacking you, so not sure the snark.
No snark. Never saw your post as attacking me. Your answer was just illogical. With the correction it makes sense. I still don't buy it. It's just too... convenient. Like speculating that Finn is Lando's child. Too convenient. It's making the mistake Lucas did with the prequels: making the world of Star Wars smaller by having everyone and their mother be related to someone we've already met... just because.


Also, you asked why anyone would connect the two... I don't see why people thinking that makes the connection FACT. Everyone is just guessing or making predictions...

So I don't don't know why you're calling out people as "Stupid".

Chill out, I guess is what I'm saying.
Well, because I've heard people make the claim she's Kenobi's "child", not grandchild. That was where the "stupid" comment was aimed. It is a stupid claim.

Grandchild... hmm... possible... just lazy in my opinion.
 
No snark. Never saw your post as attacking me. Your answer was just illogical. With the correction it makes sense. I still don't buy it. It's just too... convenient. Like speculating that Finn is Lando's child. Too convenient. It's making the mistake Lucas did with the prequels: making the world of Star Wars smaller by having everyone and their mother be related to someone we've already met... just because.

No worries...

But to being convenient, I actually think it makes for an interesting 1-9 arc...

The whole thing starts out with Master and apprentice... Kenobi and Anakin... Anakin being more powerful than Obi... and Obi having to put him in his place.. the first 3 end with the two dueling to the death....

But the end of the 9, Obi's grandaughter would be fighting Anakins Grandson... but this time it's turned, and a Kenobi is stronger with the Force.

And to add to the salt to the wound, Vader's Grandson is named after Rey's Grandfather.

I personally would love this.
 
Also who is to say that she isn't Kenobi's granddaughter, just cause he was a hermit doesn't mean he couldn't have had a family at some point. Plus if Clone Wars is accurate he had a brother.

The Clone Wars TV show is canon but when did it say anything about Obi-wan having a brother? The show did delve into a past relationship that Obi-wan had with the Duchess of Mandalore, for whom he was tempted to leave the Jedi Order. In that story, though, the entire point was to contrast Obi-wan's restraint against Anakin's disregard for Jedi custom. It seems unlikely that the new writers would so flagrantly go against something so strongly established (Obi-wan's adherence to the Jedi Code even at great personal cost to himself).
 
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