SDS Court case

[RKW]

<div class='quotetop'>(TK765 @ Sep 30 2006, 12:09 AM) [snapback]1329044[/snapback]</div>

If anyone thinks all they had was Matts testimony to bury AA, your pretty ignorant. Its too bad the real bomb shells never got to drop since it didn't go to trial. Matts testimony is nothing compared to what evidence they had to drop on him, specifically that they ARE NOT the original molds.

Convienent he never tried to defend himself.
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So, since the court case is over and you appear to know exactly what these bomb shells are why not reveal all to us?

I would say that if their evidence was so concrete then they wouldn't need to take the risk in using TE's opinion.

 

[exoray]

<div class='quotetop'>(RKW @ Sep 29 2006, 06:18 PM) [snapback]1329047[/snapback]</div>

I would say that if their evidence was so concrete then they wouldn't need to take the risk in using TE's opinion.
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No risk involved, AA defaulted and everything LFL submitted was taken as fact...

As I said before in this thread because AA defaulted the case never went to Discovery, that is the part of the trial where you present and request the "real" evidence to support your claims... The case never got that far so nothing was presented...

 

[RKW]

So what was the point in LFL submitting TE's statement after the default ruling?

 

[exoray]

<div class='quotetop'>(RKW @ Sep 29 2006, 07:10 PM) [snapback]1329065[/snapback]</div>

So what was the point in LFL submitting TE's statement after the default ruling?
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Go back a few of my post I explained it there, it has to do with hammering home the "unfair competion" claims that they never really backed up with anything so they would get a favorfull ruling on them...

 

[Boba Debt]

You know, in about 3 years we're all going to look back on this situation and some of us are going to wish we hadn't said some of the things we said.

 

[exoray]

<div class='quotetop'>(Boba Debt @ Sep 29 2006, 09:19 PM) [snapback]1329116[/snapback]</div>

You know, in about 3 years we're all going to look back on this situation and some of us are going to wish we hadn't said some of the things we said.
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Actually I cringe at all my typos, this keyboard is wonky (keeps freezing up) and when I use the laptop I can't type for anything...

I suspect that once the wind blows over this for a few years some people might start to regret things they said, but who knows...

 

[SithLord]

<div class='quotetop'>(Keith @ Sep 29 2006, 05:10 PM) [snapback]1328959[/snapback]</div>

I don't have any pics of mine from the same angle, but make your own mind up which one looks more accurate:

SDS

[/b]

That's an SDS? :confused

Now HERE is an SDS And comparisons of SDS vs Gino vs Sandtrooper vs TE....posted before...again as a reminder...

<div class='quotetop'>(RKW @ Sep 29 2006, 07:18 PM) [snapback]1329047[/snapback]</div>

I would say that if their evidence was so concrete then they wouldn't need to take the risk in using TE's opinion.
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RKW, my friend, I agree. Except they didn't even know the risk.....



<div class='quotetop'>(Boba Debt @ Sep 29 2006, 10:19 PM) [snapback]1329116[/snapback]</div>

You know, in about 3 years we're all going to look back on this situation and some of us are going to wish we hadn't said some of the things we said.
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That could very likely be true....isn't is always? The important thing is that at least we care enough to discuss it here.

 

[jorusfett]

all im saying is he says its his right because its HIS stuff... well if he has the REAL moulds... why do Ginos or TE's or even scratch made stuff like what paul does LOOK WAY MORE LIKE WHAT WAS SEEN ON SCREEN IN 77??? :unsure

Because a lot of time the real ting looks different in person compared to a prop re-created from screen references.

I'd agree in most cases. But that statement clearly illustrates to me that you haven't been paying very close attention to trooper helmet threads. And it makes me want to re-prove a point.

Here's mine. Not so different from the real thing. In fact. I'd say I haven't seen anything comparable, let alone better. Even if someone were to take molds off another screen used helmet, the best they could do (if they could do) would be to make one as accurate as the one they are casting from. That wouldn't make it more accurate, it's make it just as accurate. That is if they didn't screw it up. And they always do.

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Could have sworn that this thread was about the SDS case developments and the information contained in the court documents that were obtained by exoray. I would think this type of gloating would be good for off-topic land. Most of the people have actually stayed on topic so far, but this one takes the cake.

Is this even pertinent to this thread? Not in my opinion.

I am glad to see that most everybody has stayed on topic and not turned this into a 'the helmet I make is better than yours, etc...'

 

[Star Wars Helmets]

<div class='quotetop'>(Brak's Buddy @ Sep 29 2006, 10:59 PM) [snapback]1329037[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>(exoray @ Sep 29 2006, 06:09 PM) [snapback]1329015[/snapback]

Truth be said argue all you want but "you" come first, your family, your finacial situation and real life comes before your silly honor amoung a few of the prop dudes on the RPF...

I will bet a boat load of money that all the people condemning TE for his actions would have done the same thing and damn the prop reputation when Uncle Lucas came calling, holding a big enough rock to crush you into nothing.
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You are probably right. If we had infringed on Lucas' copyright hundreds and hundreds of times and they came calling, we might have done the exact same thing. However, you don't know that to be the case do you? We don't know who approached who on this. Honestly, it doesn't matter that much to me, because Matt has made a spectacle about this issue for sometime bragging about how LFL had brought him on to help take down AA. To me, that isn't a man who is providing info with a gun to his head. His attitude about this entire event has been one of his typical arroagnce and one of extreme vindictiveness. That is the issue I have. If Matt were actually a victim of a lawsuit here and had his arm twisted behind his back, I wouldn't have much to say. But having seen some of his statements regarding this issue (not just those in the decalration) and see him swaggering around, drunk from the ego boost lfl gave him by using him, all I see is someone who utterly disgusts me.
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This IMO sums up exactly what TE did. The arrogance, ego and malice in his posts since his testimony paint quite a vile picture. :thumbsdown

Cheers

Jez

 

[Keith]

<div class='quotetop'>(SithLord @ Sep 30 2006, 05:15 AM) [snapback]1329192[/snapback]</div>

SDS

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That's an SDS? :confused

Yep, thats an SDS. Like i said, its not photographed from biased angles (looking up at the helmet so the true shape of the rear tube is hidden) or with those awful ears removed.

Keith.

 

[stonky]

Mine looks the same way, with the faceplate at that ridiculous angle.

 

[SithLord]

<div class='quotetop'>(Keith @ Sep 30 2006, 07:53 AM) [snapback]1329265[/snapback]</div>

Yep, thats an SDS. Like i said, its not photographed from biased angles (looking up at the helmet so the true shape of the rear tube is hidden) or with those awful ears removed.

Keith.
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Is it a hero? Would you happen to have a pic of the stand with plaque?

Basically, the TE helmet and its derivatives are just one style of helmet, the "Move Along" and SDS are another.
We can see here below that there was tremendous variation in the pulls of the original helmets in terms of shape and proportions. So I question some of TE's statements about accuracy.

Side views...

 

[GINO]

Just in case there is still any confusion let me say this.

All the stunt helmets outside of sharpness of pull, trimming and assembly are the same.

Only 1 set of molds for those.
Hero faceplates are obviously different.

 

[Keith]

<div class='quotetop'>(SithLord @ Sep 30 2006, 04:05 PM) [snapback]1329382[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>(Keith @ Sep 30 2006, 07:53 AM) [snapback]1329265[/snapback]

Yep, thats an SDS. Like i said, its not photographed from biased angles (looking up at the helmet so the true shape of the rear tube is hidden) or with those awful ears removed.

Keith.
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Is it a hero? Would you happen to have a pic of the stand with plaque?

Basically, the TE helmet and its derivatives are just one style of helmet, the "Move Along" and SDS are another.
We can see here below that there was tremendous variation in the pulls of the original helmets in terms of shape and proportions. So I question some of TE's statements about accuracy.

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Are you saying the move along trooper is from different molds than other troopers??
Is it the shape of the move along tubes that are making you think that? If so, the right tube is just squashed thats all.

Here are some pics i took when i went to see the helmet last year:

Right tube which is squashed....

Left tube which is the shape the right one should be and is the same as most replicas....

 

[SithLord]

<div class='quotetop'>(Keith @ Sep 30 2006, 12:19 PM) [snapback]1329389[/snapback]</div>

Are you saying the move along trooper is from different molds than other troopers??
Is it the shape of the move along tubes that are making you think that? If so, the right tube is just squashed thats all.
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It's obvious they came off the buck differently...warpage, assembly, etc. But obviously AA used only one buck at that time....the fact is....they are different. You can't use the TE helmet as the standard.

 

[Keith]

Yes, most of us already know that.

But what has that got to do with how this looks?...

Keith.

 

[Star Wars Helmets]

IIRC that was the first Hero helmet (prototype).

The assembly is crap, the face is way off. I dont know what value you place in that picture.

Is the issue here moulds or assembly?

Cheers

Jez

 

[Keith]

Molds. Its the shape of the parts i'm looking at, not how its been put together.

Keith.

 

[SithLord]

<div class='quotetop'>(Keith @ Sep 30 2006, 12:32 PM) [snapback]1329395[/snapback]</div>

Yes, most of us already know that.

But what has that got to do with how this looks?...

Keith.
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Here's mine compared to your "expert" reference photo :lol

 

[Keith]

What did you use the word "expert" for?

Keith.