Matt's involvement doesn't matter... He never blatantly sold anything in full view of the public. He diddn't thumb his nose at LFL. Like the majority of dealers he was low key in his dealings with the public. All of this unlike AA who dropped his pants and mooned the licencee and copywrite holder. So what's the big deal...? It's a laughable arguement.
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That is about as correct and concise as it could have been put.Matt's involvement doesn't matter... He never blatantly sold anything in full view of the public. He diddn't thumb his nose at LFL. Like the majority of dealers he was low key in his dealings with the public. All of this unlike AA who dropped his pants and mooned the licencee and copywrite holder. So what's the big deal...? It's a laughable arguement.
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Matt's involvement doesn't matter... He never blatantly sold anything in full view of the public. He diddn't thumb his nose at LFL. Like the majority of dealers he was low key in his dealings with the public. All of this unlike AA who dropped his pants and mooned the licencee and copywrite holder. So what's the big deal...? It's a laughable arguement.
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Seeing the responses here and the defenses offered, the RPF should now be a free-for-all where anyone can do anything without anyone being able to say a word about it. Morals be damned. Logic be damned. Common sense be damned. Recast as you will. Go against legally licensed vendors as you will. Cut each other up as you will. Turn your competition over to the authorities if it helps serve your personal purposes, vendettas, or just a whim. Dog eat dog. No one here should be able to say a word because we have become the all accepting ostriches of the world. If someone criticizes your actions... well screw them, because you will have a dozen people rush to your defense no matter your crime because surely we are all good natured at heart and if it SEEMS like someone did something wrong... it must be because they were looking at it from "a certain point of view" that in some dimension is a-ok, so it should be a-ok for you too. Just accept it and keep moving into the ovens.... don't look at the man behind the curtain. It is all ok. Everything is ok. We all float down here....
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That's just it though and the thing you fail to realize is Matt had no conflict of interest with AA. Matt's issues with AA derive from AA's shady "truths". When AA refused to show anyone these "original" molds to any of the people he was in initial talks with it raised many a red flag. Matt was long established among the prop community LONG before AA showed up, people knew who to get high quality accurate product from.
Then once the AA helmets were shown it was obvious to all but a few that there were many a discrepancy with the product. So begins the endless ranting from the same individuals...
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That's just it though and the thing you fail to realize is Matt had no conflict of interest with AA. Matt's issues with AA derive from AA's shady "truths". When AA refused to show anyone these "original" molds to any of the people he was in initial talks with it raised many a red flag.
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all im saying is he says its his right because its HIS stuff... well if he has the REAL moulds... why do Ginos or TE's or even scratch made stuff like what paul does LOOK WAY MORE LIKE WHAT WAS SEEN ON SCREEN IN 77??? :unsure
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That knife cuts both ways in this discussion, I hope you realize. People here can say TE and AA acted fitting all of your above "Criteria". So, which side do we accept? Do we accept Ainsworth's side, who it has been proven is a recaster, or do we accept TE's side for ALLEDGEDLY turning all of his info over to LFL and starting this whole thing? I don't know TE from Adam or a hole in the wall, but he banned himself from here for whatever his reasons. As far as I recall, he hasn't been accused of recasting or wrong doing. He has been accused of being a jerk by some, but again, I don't know the guy, so can't offer an opinion one way or the other.Seeing the responses here and the defenses offered, the RPF should now be a free-for-all where anyone can do anything without anyone being able to say a word about it. Morals be damned. Logic be damned. Common sense be damned. Recast as you will. Go against legally licensed vendors as you will. Cut each other up as you will. Turn your competition over to the authorities if it helps serve your personal purposes, vendettas, or just a whim. Dog eat dog. No one here should be able to say a word because we have become the all accepting ostriches of the world. If someone criticizes your actions... well screw them, because you will have a dozen people rush to your defense no matter your crime because surely we are all good natured at heart and if it SEEMS like someone did something wrong... it must be because they were looking at it from "a certain point of view" that in some dimension is a-ok, so it should be a-ok for you too. Just accept it and keep moving into the ovens.... don't look at the man behind the curtain. It is all ok. Everything is ok. We all float down here....
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all im saying is he says its his right because its HIS stuff... well if he has the REAL moulds... why do Ginos or TE's or even scratch made stuff like what paul does LOOK WAY MORE LIKE WHAT WAS SEEN ON SCREEN IN 77??? :unsure
Bottom line is TE involvement in this case was before it became a “court case”. How did the “consultation” start, did he go to them and say “I’ve got some dirty info on AA?”[/b]
That knife cuts both ways in this discussion, I hope you realize. People here can say TE and AA acted fitting all of your above "Criteria". So, which side do we accept? Do we accept Ainsworth's side, who it has been proven is a recaster, or do we accept TE's side for ALLEDGEDLY turning all of his info over to LFL and starting this whole thing? I don't know TE from Adam or a hole in the wall, but he banned himself from here for whatever his reasons. As far as I recall, he hasn't been accused of recasting or wrong doing. He has been accused of being a jerk by some, but again, I don't know the guy, so can't offer an opinion one way or the other.
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Truth be said argue all you want but "you" come first, your family, your finacial situation and real life comes before your silly honor amoung a few of the prop dudes on the RPF...
I will bet a boat load of money that all the people condemning TE for his actions would have done the same thing and damn the prop reputation when Uncle Lucas came calling, holding a big enough rock to crush you into nothing.
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This is hearsay to a degree, so go ahead and take it with a grain of salt (I know you will anyway)
From what I understand, there was a relationship between Matt & LFL preceding this whole situation, so they contacted him as part of an ongoing relatioinship. So I think the "who called first" question is unanswerable because the AA subject was likely part of an ongoing dialogue on a number of subjects. As opposed to a cold call by one party to the other specifically regarding AA-SDS. Also, I think it's safe to say that LFL is/was fully aware of what/how much/etc. Matt was making in terms of armor. So, there's what I gather. FWIW/IIRC/etc.
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