I like the machine tabs.
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Limited Run RUN CLOSED * DL-44 ESB Blaster Machined Parts Set * RUN CLOSED
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Are we talking about adding a tab to each side of the pistons or are we discussing adding a notch to both sides that we will fill in with the head of a machine screw? I think the notch would be easy to add with a rat-tail file and some patience. Thoughts?
i agree with adding a colon or a dash to break up the blaster description on the plaques. "HAN SOLO - HOTH -DL-44 HEAVY BLASTER" I like a space dash space.
i agree with adding a colon or a dash to break up the blaster description on the plaques. "HAN SOLO - HOTH -DL-44 HEAVY BLASTER" I like a space dash space.
Boba Debt
Master Member
This:
"or are we discussing adding a notch to both sides that we will fill in with the head of a machine screw?"
If I do this it won't be a notch, it will be a partial counter bore that the head f the screw will rest on
"or are we discussing adding a notch to both sides that we will fill in with the head of a machine screw?"
If I do this it won't be a notch, it will be a partial counter bore that the head f the screw will rest on
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Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
Those things on the sides of the pistons are so hard to see. Sometimes I think I see screws that have been painted over but most of the time it looks like loops. Since the parts on the side are from the V8 model, I thought i would take a look at the model and determine if any parts looked like a match.
I found this.
I think the loop is the top of a dip stick. Since I have never had this model or its parts, I cannot tell if the size is correct or not but I was wondering if the loop was used for the side details.
Also, I noticed the model used a lot of phillips screw that look like the ones used to screw down the pistons (which is probably old news).
I found this.
I think the loop is the top of a dip stick. Since I have never had this model or its parts, I cannot tell if the size is correct or not but I was wondering if the loop was used for the side details.
Also, I noticed the model used a lot of phillips screw that look like the ones used to screw down the pistons (which is probably old news).
I've always thought the things on the sides of the pistons were the tops of rivets, like the simple aluminum rivets at the old Home Depot? See attached pic...View attachment 510473
Boba Debt
Master Member
To me the front piece of hardware looks like a Philips screw that had a heavy coat of paint.
The back piece of hardware has always intrigued me, its round but seems to have a flat top.
I think we should go with an idealized version and go with the counter bored pocket and use the same screws that are in the center of the pistons.
That way you can use techniques to achieve the desired look, such as filling in the back screw to make it look flat and laying a thick coat of paint on the front screw to make it appear almost filled in.
The back piece of hardware has always intrigued me, its round but seems to have a flat top.
I think we should go with an idealized version and go with the counter bored pocket and use the same screws that are in the center of the pistons.
That way you can use techniques to achieve the desired look, such as filling in the back screw to make it look flat and laying a thick coat of paint on the front screw to make it appear almost filled in.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
When I first look at it, i think the same thing. However...
Being on this board for this long, I have taught myself to question details that are not clear. If I think I interpret something one way, I then relook at it and convince myself that it is something different (whether it is or not) and try to come up will and alternative of what I am looking at.
When I do the above when looking at this detail, I cannot see the details as being a screw.
I try and figure out what someone might do what the did on the sides of those pistons. If I assume that used original model pieces, then they were dealing with two halves. Now if it they simple screwed the pistons down with the obvious phillips screws, I guess it is possible that there might be some ability for those pieces to shift and they put side screws on for stabilization. That is a questionable theory since I think it might be some first choice to at first glue the two pieces together, then screw them down plus add a little glue for good measure. But it is hard to get in the minds of a prop builder. They might not have given it much thought when putting on the pieces.
Another thought is that they used screws but glued on some doodads over the screws/bolts/fasteners to hide them. Something that looks like loops but got heavily painted. I have trouble with that theory to because why bother to cover those screws and not all the others.
So that a long way of saying... "I have no idea."
Boba Debt
Master Member
The last time I did that was in 2004. For the most part the Bespin parts and the Scope are the same. Most of the discovery was made on the Hoth Parts this go around
At one time someone posted picture of a real blaster and you could see 2 small rectangular impressions to the right and left of the pistons.
Some theorized that it was a thin piece of cross shaped metal and that the pistons were attached to the middle vertical section of the "cross" and the screws to the left and right of the pistons were screwed through the horizontal part of the "cross' to secure the assembly to the blaster.
I lost that image a long time ago and I have never seen it re-posted but several people made ESB Blasters with the sheet metal "cross" under their pistons.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
Ok, I'm going to say something stupid so stand back...
Could the mystery material be part of a brace for the attaching the scope mount on the other side? And that the Pistons were added in an attempt to cover it up?
Could the mystery material be part of a brace for the attaching the scope mount on the other side? And that the Pistons were added in an attempt to cover it up?
JLinNY
Sr Member
I'm gonna go with what the group wants, but I've been messing around with the Hoth blaster photos and I agree with what Boba had said; I think it's some kind of mounting bar running under the piston pieces.
I think they tried that for mounting (maybe they didn't want obvious screws on the face of the pistons), and it didn't work so they went with the screws on the pistons. The big problem I am having with the screw/rivet theory is why do something on the sides like that for mounting when they could have easily put the screws through the front of the pistons like they ended up doing? And aside from the ends being rounded, what we see on the trigger piston side stub does not look like a regular screw, it is too tall. The one thing I can't figure out is what is on the front piston side stub? It looks like someone did a bad job putting a screw or something into the stub.
I think they tried that for mounting (maybe they didn't want obvious screws on the face of the pistons), and it didn't work so they went with the screws on the pistons. The big problem I am having with the screw/rivet theory is why do something on the sides like that for mounting when they could have easily put the screws through the front of the pistons like they ended up doing? And aside from the ends being rounded, what we see on the trigger piston side stub does not look like a regular screw, it is too tall. The one thing I can't figure out is what is on the front piston side stub? It looks like someone did a bad job putting a screw or something into the stub.
JHVanOphem
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Any chance of seeing the flash hiders shipped before 1 September? It's the last item I need for my custom blaster.
Boba Debt
Master Member
I can't make any promises. I'm calling the shop tomorrow for an update and hopefully I will know the day they plan to run our parts.
Third batch is back from the foundry. I'm happy to report that all of the scopes and 99% of the pistons came out. I took another batch of waxes to the foundry, so now I'm almost halfway through the bronze scopes and I'm done with the pistons (I hope).
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JHVanOphem
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