Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Pre-release)

[glunark]

Ok, lets get a bit of perspective here with some real science.

Gravity is form of acceleration, and the equivalent acceleration to 1G on earth is just under 22 miles per hour, per second.

There are currently 7 cars that can accelerate faster than that.

Also once you are in space and direction is irrelevent, any ship that would be destroyed by gravity, would also be destroyed by just going faster than 22 MPH per second, in any direction.

Han Solo claimed the falcon could outrun any imperial ship, which would imply that they can go fast.

So you either have to accept that a Bugatti Veron can go faster than a star destroyer, or you accept the fact they can hang about in atmosphere because they are built to withstand the forces of acceleration, like any decent space ship would be.

 

[CessnaDriver]

I also am happy Williams is out, I agree that that magic touch he had has been gone many years now.
I should have multiple memorable themes to take away in my head as in the old days, he's just not producing that anymore.

 

[Darth Fetty]

Cloud City was an entire city hovering in the clouds plus the tibanna gas platforms floating around it. People have been walking around in "artificial gravity" on the Millennium Falcon, Death Star, Star Destroyers, etc since the first film. The Falcon takes off into hyperspace and no one flinches in their seats, yet an asteroid hits it and people tumble and boxes fall.

Yet a Star Destroyer hovering in the atmosphere pulls people out of the moment? Really not getting it. I think it looks beautiful and totally fits in the Star Wars fantasy.

 

[Treadwell]

Zero photon torpedoes. That's Star Trek. Two proton torpedoes.

D'OH!!

 

[astroboy]

Ok, lets get a bit of perspective here with some real science.

Gravity is form of acceleration, and the equivalent acceleration to 1G on earth is just under 22 miles per hour, per second.

There are currently 7 cars that can accelerate faster than that.

Also once you are in space and direction is irrelevent, any ship that would be destroyed by gravity, would also be destroyed by just going faster than 22 MPH per second, in any direction.

Han Solo claimed the falcon could outrun any imperial ship, which would imply that they can go fast.

So you either have to accept that a Bugatti Veron can go faster than a star destroyer, or you accept the fact they can hang about in atmosphere because they are built to withstand the forces of acceleration, like any decent space ship would be.

Again, it isn't about being scientific. It's about plausibility and writing tools.

Having these capital ships enter the atmosphere is too convenient in the dramatic sense.

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[DaddyfromNaboo]

huh, I was kinda picturing a more somber, dejected, basso for K2SO, more Marvin than Threepio. Otherwise, loved it.

The german dubbed version is more like what you had imagined as a voice for K2SO, although not completely. But I guess you aren´t going to learn German just for that experience, huh? There´s usually something going amiss in those dubbed versions ...

 

[DaddyfromNaboo]

D'OH!!

Your RPF membership will automatically be terminated in 21 hours ...

 

[JD]

Thinking about it, you're right. X-Wings were taking off and landing directly at the Yavin-4 base, so atmospheric flight there. Off the top of my head, I don't remember Ties flying in atmo in the OT.

By that reasoning the Space Shuttle is capable of atmospheric flight In the original ANH, we see them zipping from Yavin 4 into space - basically powering their way through the atmosphere and gravity (not unlike the Shuttle on her boosters). The SE changed that a bit and added some basic movement - but, even that was more akin to some very basic repulsor like and not so much actual flight.

 

[JD]

So you either have to accept that a Bugatti Veron can go faster than a star destroyer, or you accept the fact they can hang about in atmosphere because they are built to withstand the forces of acceleration, like any decent space ship would be.

I don't think that anyone is arguing that a Star Destroyer goes really, really fast... when it's not dealing with a gravity (obviously there will be some gravity to deal with in space) and an atmosphere. The issue is more about a ship of that size hovering as it appears to be in the trailer.

 

[Bryancd]

Rebels has already pulled this concept into canon over 2 years ago.

 

[glunark]

I guess I just don't see that being an issue.

 

[Jaitea]

OK......its nerd time

"The repulsorlift or repulsorlift engine, often referred to simply as a repulsor, was an anti-gravity technology capable of levitating an object. It was created from subnuclear "knots" of space-time made by enormous unmanned power refineries encompassing black holes. Repulsorlifts were widely used, and were included on virtually every type of vehicle."

J

 

[Noeland]

Wow, people have an issue with spaceships in atmosphere? In a fantasty space opera about mystical energy fields and laser swords? Really?

We've got giant slugs who are gangsters, and small flying blue lizard things who slave trade human beings, and aliens who look like giant house flies. But we can't accept ships IN atmosphere. Gotcha. That strikes me as incredibly fascinating.

Everybody has deal breakers it seems. I think it's a very interesting situation when we find people who can accept certain fantastical elements in a story without issue, but others are a big deal breaker. One day, I'm going to write a book about it.

 

[Treadwell]

We had Republic Cruisers taking off from the "surface" of Coruscant back in 2002, why is this a surprise now.

 

[KrangPrime]

aonther great gone..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/star-wars-r2-d2-actor-8624354

 

[Bryancd]

We had Republic Cruisers taking off from the "surface" of Coruscant back in 2002, why is this a surprise now.

I think the rub is the larger Imperial class SD's.

 

[The Wook]

Do we know how big a role Vader will have in R1? Not looking for spoilers, about anything he's purported to do in the film. Just wondering if his role is best characterized as a cameo appearance, a supporting role, or a featured role?

The Wook

 

[Bryancd]

Do we know how big a role Vader will have in R1? Not looking for spoilers, about anything he's purported to do in the film. Just wondering if his role is best characterized as a cameo appearance, a supporting role, or a featured role?

The Wook

It's been pretty much confirmed it will be very limited. If I had to hazard a guess I would say less then 5min. of actual screen time.

 

[kristen jones]

I'm not questioning their ability. I'm complaining about his directing.

Look at his star trek films. Both of them centred around saving earth. Heck, the second one started in water and ended up crashing in san fransisco


Let's put the space back in space!

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Well, to be fair the incident you've cited from TFA happened the way that it did because they were attempting to steal the Falcon and were being chased and fired upon by TIEs, and at first they had no capability of fighting back until Finn figured out the turret. So rather than make a run for it straight up (as Rey instinctively did) Finn suggests that in order to hamper the TIEs' ability to track and engage them at close range, they ought to fly low and confuse their sensors by (presumeably) flying in between other objects to make it more difficult to get a line of sight and/or a lock on them until they could either fire back or lose their tail altogether.

 

[JD]

Wow, people have an issue with spaceships in atmosphere? In a fantasty space opera about mystical energy fields and laser swords? Really?

We've got giant slugs who are gangsters, and small flying blue lizard things who slave trade human beings, and aliens who look like giant house flies. But we can't accept ships IN atmosphere. Gotcha. That strikes me as incredibly fascinating.

Everybody has deal breakers it seems. I think it's a very interesting situation when we find people who can accept certain fantastical elements in a story without issue, but others are a big deal breaker. One day, I'm going to write a book about it.

No worse than people having issues with people debating said space opera fantasies. You're in a "geek" forum that talks about this kinda of stuff. No one said these issues were dealbreakers - some of us are having fun with it.

You go ahead a write your book about it - don't forget a chapter or two about self-righteousness and judging others for having a little fun.