Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Pre-release)
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Wolfsburg
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I believe it's mentioned in the some of the novelizations but I don't recall precisely. If nothing else I think ROTS and ROTJ films make it fairly obvious.
If they show him unhelmeted (which they shouldn't) it should only be a glimpse, like in TESB. Shouldn't matter if it's Hayden or not.
kristen jones
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Well he doesn't walk around with hoses or cables attached to anything external... so that makes it self contained.
And he was in a meditation chamber the only time we saw him with his helmet off... so that at least strongly implies it's sealed.
When He asked Luke to help him take it off, Luke assumed he would die if he did. Vader had to explain that such was going to occur regardless.
I WANT Hayden back in the armor... with someone to direct him properly.
He's not a bad actor... and with the new regine heading these movies, Ewan and Hayden should get a chance to be part of the fun.
I like Hayden... I hate Anakin. It was nothing to do with Hayden, I don't think anyone could have made that dialogue work.
He's not a bad actor... and with the new regine heading these movies, Ewan and Hayden should get a chance to be part of the fun.
I like Hayden... I hate Anakin. It was nothing to do with Hayden, I don't think anyone could have made that dialogue work.
crabra comander
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Someone posted a video of GLs info book or some such tech manual I it. He gets vita paste and IVs from the suit bro, if that's not self contained I don't know what is.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Vader's_armor
I've posted it before, so I won't again, but look up Redlettermedias vid on youtube where they read that entire entry and comment on it.
Comedy gold.
Vader's suit of horrors.
Cuz if you REALLY read that page, he lives in absolute pain and misery every day of his life, and it's all thanks the Emperor.
I actually loved the battle damaged Vader in TFU. I like the idea of a Dark Side user, like Maul, who is just so enraged and full of the Dark Side that they are just a whirlwind of death. Vader doesn't care about the damage his suit takes, because he knows it can handle it. I think as long as the controls aren't damaged he can still function okay. That's one thing I liked about that Vader book (yes I know it's not canon) was how they said he adjusted his fighting style to protect his life support equipment. That explains (continuity wise anyway) why Anakin was so flashy and the OT fighting was more subdued.
Wolfsburg
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No one is suggesting that it can never come off. Of course it can in a controlled environment, as seen in his chambers in TESB. You even see a breath mask swinging away as his helmet comes down. Vader walking around with his life-support suit in tatters just looks ridiculous though. It's obviously done for the "ooooh coool" factor with very little logic applied. Luke even plainly states that Vader will die with the mask removed, and yet we see him with his mask severely damaged and broken in both Rebels and TFU.
Truth told, the ROTS suit was brand new, and the chest box, though it lit up, looked more like the ANH version than the ESB & ROTJ versions. If they had just put his inner cloak over the chestplate people wouldn't stir so much. They act like he cannot have the changes to the suit between the movies, when he clearly also did after ANH as well. So why is it so hard to think of it being changed to the full ANH version between ROTS and ANH? Because he wore the inner cloak over the chest plate for a while? Han wore a sleeveless vest in ANH, full armed jacket in ESB, and back to a sleeveless vest for part of ROTJ. I know Han is not cyborg, but you can get my point. Vader can't have his outfit changed from time to time?
Wolfsburg
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Well, because it's pretty obvious that's what the suit is. Vader seems to agree with Luke though saying he will die regardless. I never realized that the nature of the suit and helmet was ever a question. He doesn't wear a loudly respirating mask because it's fun. I doubt Vader was intending to make a fashion statement with the large square (diagnostic?) box on his chest
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nice comparison!
Agreed he's not a bad actor it was just an awful script and bad direction, liked him in Jumper.
cboath
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At that point, though, i think from getting fried by the emperor and his ass kicked by Luke that he'd taken a lot of damage and, yeah, at that point, taking off the mask he wasn't going to last too long. I'd be willing to be though, that under normal circumstances the thing could come off for a decent amount of time - maybe an hour or so. Keep in mind, the chamber in ESB is called a medication chamber, not a medical chamber or an oxygen chamber or anything else.
I don't think it's the 100% sealed containment keeping him alive, but rather what the suit does for him. So if he looses half a facemask, or an arm or whatever - the suit still functions and he still lives..
Think of burn victims in the hospital. They may need an oxygen mask, but they don't need to be in a sealed environment to survive. Well, technically they do until their skin heals, otherwise they're very prone to infection/germs, but outside of that - they don't require a sealed environment. Vaders suit may provide oxygen and who knows what other drugs/medications, but needing a complete seal i don't find too likely. The only situation I can think of now that fits that is a decompression chamber (which isn't permanent) or the illness where you have to be in a controlled enviroment (bubble) because your immune system doesn't work.
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