Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Post-release)

[Greenie]

I realize I'm one of the most critical people here when it comes to Disney, but I loved the artoo and threepio cameo. It made some sense that they were there on the base.

Unlike ponda baba, Dr. Evizan, blue milk and the fact that moisture farms are everywhere.

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The droid's should have been on the Tantive not the base. Ponda and the doc was blatant fan service but let's assume they were heading for their ship and left before the DS fired. The Erso's home looked pretty remote so they generate their own water rather than rely on the local utilities company to pipe it in! Don't really get your problem with blue milk, it's a popular drink. Just like tea, coffee or Coca Cola are quite popular on this planet.

 

[CessnaDriver]

You just can't apply much actual military thinking to Star Wars (or most any fantasy film with fighting)
Every movie is filled with tons of non-sensical stuff if you start down that path.
Forever will it dominate your criticisms. Consume you it will!

If we like a movie we just don't care, if we don't like a movie then we of course will point it out.
And usually we can cook up some nonsense to justify why they do things the way they do anyways.

Stormtroopers have been ineffective bowling pins since day one, the A-Team fires tons of bullets and never kills anyone.
Why is the bridge the most exposed easy target on almost every single Federation ship?

 

[astroboy]

What was Vader's rank in the OT?

He was a general in the clone wars. Was he demoted?

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[Treadwell]

Actually although both his uniforms were white if you look closely they ARE different from the first scene and the rest. In the first scene the material looks much heavier and looks pretty wrinkled. The top of his chest under his head is different. After that, it is a smoother material and he looks much better.

In that scene he also has only one rank bar instead of two, and one data cylinder.

I think the wrinkliness was just because it was wet, though.

 

[Robiwon]

There were things in the movie I would have done differently, but I didn't make it. There were things I knew were fake, like CGI Tarkin and Leia, but for me, it was a great Star Wars movie.

 

[Treadwell]

So what was the spoiler Mendelsohn dropped at Celebration that was edited out before being posted to YouTube?

 

[AnubisGuard]

I'd bet that the TIE was just about to blast Jyn when a Rebel pilot picked it off. I wonder if they nixed it because we did not have a pilot like a Luke, Han or Poe to make the last-minute save a little more satisfying. If Hera really was there in the Ghost, that maybe could have worked, but I could also see that called out (rightly) as pure fanboy appeasement.

There's a poster on another board claiming this is more or less the case, but that it was cut because the "save" was deemed too similar to the business with the AT-ACT earlier in the movie. No idea where they're getting that info, but it sounds plausible enough.

 

[squirk]

There's a poster on another board claiming this is more or less the case, but that it was cut because the "save" was deemed too similar to the business with the AT-ACT earlier in the movie. No idea where they're getting that info, but it sounds plausible enough.

A last-minute save by Hera? Or just a random pilot?

If true, I wish they would have done something different with the AT-ACT to preserve the TIE shot. It was pretty cool.

 

[astroboy]

Again, as critical as I am about Rebels, I would have loved to see the ghost pick them up. Without showing the crew.

I don't mind fan service as long as it fits with the setting and it isn't really broad.

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[cayman shen]

Leia was a little off, but I wonder how much of the Tarkin criticism is expectation. Did some go in knowing he would be in there and look specifically for cg tells?

Having actually managed to avoid the trailers and spoilers I had no idea he was coming and his appearance floored me. Same with gold leader. I think some knew going in where cg was and where old footage was and we're looking for it. If it took you by surprise I think you'd be more likely to enjoy it.

It wasn't expectation. It was like someone spliced in Call of Duty cut scene footage. I literally can't wrap my head around how anyone wasn't horrified by this.

 

[AnubisGuard]

A last-minute save by Hera? Or just a random pilot?

If true, I wish they would have done something different with the AT-ACT to preserve the TIE shot. It was pretty cool.

Random pilot, as far as I know.

 

[Toadmeister]

I understand the practicality of it, but for the purpose of narrative, it was a way of letting the audience know that tatooine was the most desperate and forgotten planet in the galaxy.

It was almost a joke.

But here, on a planet that looks incredibly damp, the erso home was there to just echo the Lars farm.

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Your thinking, too rigid it is.

Cinematicly and thematically, they were there to draw familiarity to Luke's (Lars) ANH homestead; a safe, nurturing place, ultimately destroyed by the Empire.

Technical argument: What makes you think the groundwater is safe? Moisture vaporators/condensers provide a purified source of water. They may have significant water needs for non-ignigeous crops.

Astroboy, do you just search for reasons to find flaws?


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[JediMichael]

I liked that they did have R2 and 3P0, but I would have had them in the background and even slighly out of focas as the guy was bringing Leia the plans on disc at the end.

 

[Toadmeister]

I liked that they did have R2 and 3P0, but I would have had them in the background and even slighly out of focas as the guy was bringing Leia the plans on disc at the end.

I agree. Or in the Tantive IV hallway as Rebel troops were running past just like in the opening of ANH "They shut down the main reactor...".

Heck, they probably could have used more recycled footage and I would have been OK with that. There has got to be several reels of old footage like that.

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[Toadmeister]

I liked the continuity inclusion of General Dodonna, recast with Ian McElhinney better known as Barriston Selemy from Game of Thrones to some of us.

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[Treadwell]

Nope, gotta agree that vaporators make no sense on a water-rich world. Easier to clean water than to condense from the air.

 

[rchrz60]

First off, I want to say that it was probably to most fully realized design we've ever seen in star wars. It both, connected the galaxy and expanded it at the same time. (Something TFA did not do. The prequels did this but it was far more subtle)
I loved seeing the juggernaut used.

But the biggest design fail was having krennic show up at the beginning with the same costume, shuttle and squad of troopers that he would have ten years later. Big fail on that.

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Well that's not so much a big fail. In the novel Catalyst, Krennick weasels his way into a "Commander" rank with guile and subterfuge, so really all that's showing you is that at the beginning of the movie he's a commander, and all those years later (the latter half of the film) he's still the same rank. He's run out of tricks and aces up his sleeve (Galen Erso) to gain any further rank. And further more, Tarkin is now in the process of stealing the Death Star (Krennicks only means of earning rank and favor with Palpatine) right out from under him. A lot of this was explained in Catalyst, and basically Krennick's side story in R1 is that he's losing his grip on the Death Star, and basically his importance altogether.


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[JediMichael]

Not sure if I remember it correctly, I'm trying to recreate the badge on Galen's scientist uniform on Eadu. Can anybody confirm this is correct. All I remember is that it's a hexagon with 6 off-center lines


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Didn't see if anyone confirmed this, but looks like you got it pretty close. Heres a really bad screen cap to compare.

 

[azheat]

Great film. Some bad things:

1. Why did Krennics park so far from the Ersos house?

Ha, too funny! I thought the same thing! Why take the long walk in the open where you're vulnerable, why give the Erso's time to pack and run..............

 

[Jaitea]

Nope, gotta agree that vaporators make no sense on a water-rich world. Easier to clean water than to condense from the air.

But on a planet with possibly thousands of miles from anyone & no water mains, do you know how easy it is to get clean water from the atmosphere with a technology that isn't available on our planet, that's like saying it's easier to fuel a landspeeder with petrol & stick on wheels instead of levitating

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