Limited Run Rick Deckard Blade Runner 1982 Trench Coat By ELS

comparing fabric to the original coat.
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The line density could stand to be adjusted here, but I think the biggest issue is the fabric chosen. The color isn't right, but that aside, those wrinkles you're seeing on the original film collar are because of the cotton chosen. With wool, the entire coat is going to retain too clean a finish. As it wears, it should look worn in.

The raglan lines along the shoulders also look like they're...floating? I'm not sure what the correct term is here. They seem to be more flush with the surface on the film coat and on the mangoli. I don't know whether that's because of the fabric chosen, or how they attach. Again, I'm not an expert on this coat--I'm just stating what my eyes see in these photos based on the fabric used.
 

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That may be true, but the concern here is accuracy. Without the coat being cotton, it won't crumple and wear properly. Early versions of the abbyshot used wool, and they later corrected this in their v2. Same with magnoli. It would seem silly to me to go through all this effort for accuracy, only to end up with fabric in the incorrect weight. Same for the color. Just my opinion.

I still think the collar border needs to be adjusted in the final version. Additionally, can we see some photos of someone wearing the mockup, preferably collar up and down and with a blazer underneath?
I'll take a new images with model by tomorrow.
Please explain about collar border, I couldn't understand your point.
 

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The line density could stand to be adjusted here, but I think the biggest issue is the fabric chosen. The color isn't right, but that aside, those wrinkles you're seeing on the original film collar are because of the cotton chosen. With wool, the entire coat is going to retain too clean a finish. As it wears, it should look worn in.

The raglan lines along the shoulders also look like they're...floating? I'm not sure what the correct term is here. They seem to be more flush with the surface on the film coat and on the mangoli. I don't know whether that's because of the fabric chosen, or how they attach. Again, I'm not an expert on this coat--I'm just stating what my eyes see in these photos based on the fabric used.
I agreed, sleeves feel floating, its due to sleeve doesn't fit well on mannequin.
I was comparing wool blended fabric with original and I didn't recognized wool fabric color is right, it was just for fabric reference.
I also agree, movie coat have many wrinkles that proof of cotton fabric.
 

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It looks to me like your collar border is roughly the same width as each individual "rib" on the collar; based on the screenshots, I think the border should be roughly half as wide as the ribs.
Oh, I got you point now.
The ribs/ decoration stitching width is 9-10mm, and collar top/ border stitching as standard 6-7mm, but due to thick foam both looks same.
 

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I hope this collar reference will help.
 

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Hello friends,
This is Oxford weave cotton fabric, it would be slightly more thick after dying.
Now we have Cotton Oxford, cotton twill, and wool blended options.
 

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My personal vote is for cotton twill, as that's what Magnoli ultimately went with. Would love to see a mockup in it. Not sure if you can source Egyptian cotton.
Any chance we can see a photo of the coat with a blazer underneath? The sleeves still look a tad narrow to me to layer anything under them.
As for the collar, the pattern looks good but it seems like the collar might be sitting too high? I'm not sure I'm explaining well, but at least in images I'm seeing (see attached) it seems like it starts lower. When it's up, it should extend to about the lower jawline when closed (yours looks like it goes almost halfway up your jaw, by comparison). I think the collar height is right, I just think it needs to start lower down, but maybe other people disagree?
 

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Hey,
I'll develop samples in Egyptian cotton and blend fabric very soon.
I'm trying to create an accurate match/ replica coat.
Cotton twill fabric weight is equal to my current coat fabric, so you can imagine how would come out twill coat.
The plain weave cotton and Egyptian cotton would be light weight for trench coats, but it's doable.
Wool blend fabric is medium weight that would be good for coats, it's traditional fabric for trench coats too.

You are right, collar needs down more, perhaps 1 inch or 2.
I think sleeve is wide for "M" size coat.
 

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The adjustment to the sleeve cuffs looks great! As does all the work going into the collar. Still, to me, the padding seems just a bit too thick.
I found this note and wondered what you and others thought. I guess the "polyester wadding" vs. whatever foam padding you are currently using. Too late to suggest?

I'm just nit picking at this point. Absolutely loving the development.

For the fabric options you listed above, "Now we have Cotton Oxford, cotton twill, and wool blended options.", will all of these be choices for the buyer?

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Yes, all work going into the collar.
You guys can see wrinkles on blend fabric same original coat look where i didn't use thick foam.
Yes, perfect42 I'll offer those fabric options but I would ask 5 to 6 week turnaround time.
 

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Great news on the approaching launch! And the choices for fabric.

I don't mind waiting a few weeks. (You noted probably a 5 to 6 week turnaround). I've been wanting one since 1982.
 

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Great news on the approaching launch! And the choices for fabric.

I don't mind waiting a few weeks. (You noted probably a 5 to 6 week turnaround). I've been wanting one since 1982.
Since 1982? wow.
Now you don't need to wait any more.
Hopefully final version sample in different fabrics would be completed till the next week.
 

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Risu, the original screen used coat was made from egyptian cotton, and heavily weathered by the costume department, the information is on the 5 disc set where Knode and Kaplan discuss the designs and inspiration for this iconic coat.
This was an interesting note regarding the material for the coat. And I just read that Egyptian cotton is quite strong and "It is also more prone to wrinkles. So it might be time to whip out the iron if the perfectly smooth bedroom picture for Instagram is what you’re looking for!"

I would be interested to hear your thoughts on this as an option for the coat.

Thanks.

Yep. Saw it during the original release in 1982. I was also fortunate enough to see the "Unicorn Cut" at the NuArt in LA and the Final Cut on the Warner Bros. Lot. Funny thing at the Warner Bros. lot, the theater is right up the street from where they filmed "Ridleyville" or all the outdoor crowd scenes. All of the retrofitting had been taken down but the subway entrance where Pris tried to hide from Deckard is still there.
 

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This was an interesting note regarding the material for the coat. And I just read that Egyptian cotton is quite strong and "It is also more prone to wrinkles. So it might be time to whip out the iron if the perfectly smooth bedroom picture for Instagram is what you’re looking for!"

I would be interested to hear your thoughts on this as an option for the coat.

Thanks.

Yep. Saw it during the original release in 1982. I was also fortunate enough to see the "Unicorn Cut" at the NuArt in LA and the Final Cut on the Warner Bros. Lot. Funny thing at the Warner Bros. lot, the theater is right up the street from where they filmed "Ridleyville" or all the outdoor crowd scenes. All of the retrofitting had been taken down but the subway entrance where Pris tried to hide from Deckard is still there.
Interesting.
 

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