Rey Alternate Outfit? (possible spoilers)

[Owlfeathers]

The wool is much lighter in person, almost a light beige grey. In sunlight it looks off white. I just messaged the manufacturer and asked them what would happen if I dye it. They have been great to work with and if this all goes well, I'll send you guys their way! They have a darker shade on their site, but it has a lot of white in it and would still need to be dyed. Here it is:

 

[kristen jones]

For the vest, arguably the hardest aspect of the outfit, I do have a "screw it"

I don't think i would pull the trigger on that one. It's the wrong fabric and it should not have a button closure.

I mean, you could probably commission someone here to make an accurate one for what they want for that one.

2 Cents.

 

[lgtsbr]

Thanks for the confirmation. That helps. My concern, as I'm designing both the belt and holster is how secure is that closure? Add the weight of the holster and blaster (even something light weight), and I'm concerned that the leather won't be able to hold the holster and it will come open. From some of the pictures further down, I don't see a 'hold down' strap at all, which doesn't make sense either, so if the belt were to come open and the holster were to flop over, the blaster would simply fall out.

I know I'm overanalyzing a movie piece vs a real world use piece, but I want to make sure that whoever I design this for will have something secure and long lasting.

Also, is the raw side of the leather really visible on the finished belt once you loop it through that closure method?

Yes.. it is the same belt.

The top and lower belts (a bit of a misnomer, since it's really one belt) both fasten with double square belt rings, and then the excess belt tongues pass through slits cut into the belt itself.
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Interesting, I didn't expect the 'split' on the base of the holster, but it makes sense. Are you thinking the holster is actually 1 piece and just folds onto itself? That would be interesting. I don't see any snaps/rivets on the face of the holster, so that could all be sewn together right at that square in front???

Here is what i have on the holster based on the figure, which seems to match what we are seeing in the movie pics.

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here is my sketch of what i am seeing, sorry i'm not much of an artist:

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1 - this is on top and separates the barrel and the smaller part under it. I'm guessing this loops around to the back and probably keeps the thigh strap in place. It may also just be one long piece that goes up the back and loops over the top to hang from the belt, but that is just speculation, since we can't see the back of it.

2- this is the smaller rectangular shaped right side flap that is sandwiched in the middle

3 - this is the larger sloping left flap that is in the back where the 3 parts overlap. I think from where it folds to the bottom of the holster is probably no more than 3 inches - the approximate size of the blaster body.

On the figure and in at least one of the movie pics, you can see some attachment method for the thigh strap on the front of her thigh. But i cannot tell how it works, if it is a buckle, or something snap-like, or just studs with holes. I can't tell.

Check the pics and let me know what you guys think.

I'm questioning the canvas vs leather for the leg strap. I can see it being either to be honest. But, lets keep in mind she is not on Jakku when she acquires the holster, so it shouldn't be scavenged. But, following your logic of a slip adjustment, I would agree on a canvas of some sort, leather would be 'thicker' against her leg at the loop portion, that strap lays flat on the leg. That still has to be a small clip.....

...ok I might have something on the holster thigh strap. Looking at this picture:

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I see 3 metal areas. I think the left is a snap-like connector that holds the 2 ends together, the middle is metal end on the strap, and the right is the square sliding size adjustment like on the sling but smaller. If all that is correct, i'm wondering if the strap may not be leather? It might be canvas and look just like the strap part from the hip bag...only longer and with the 2 ends being attached with a snap and an added size adjustment. I don't think you normally see metal ends on leather straps, usually canvas.

Let me know what you guys think.

update:
here is a work-up of what I think I am seeing in this pic:

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The more I look at it, I don't think the thigh strap is attached to the holster, because of how it is sitting in this pic. I think it just goes through the loop to keep the lower part of the holster from flapping around against her leg.

Great finds and thank you all for the help

Dave

 

[Redwillow]

Interesting, I didn't expect the 'split' on the base of the holster, but it makes sense. Are you thinking the holster is actually 1 piece and just folds onto itself? That would be interesting. I don't see any snaps/rivets on the face of the holster, so that could all be sewn together right at that square in front???

yes, i def think it could have been made from 1 piece and sewn at the front.

 

[Mithril Designs]

I was studying the pics I have of the pants to start adding the quilted pads on mine and noticed that there is a seam running across the thigh separate from and above the pads. You can see it on the action figure and also in some of the pictures.

 

[Owlfeathers]

I was studying the pics I have of the pants to start adding the quilted pads on mine and noticed that there is a seam running across the thigh separate from and above the pads. You can see it on the action figure and also in some of the pictures.



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Good eye!!! I never spotted that! I also noticed something else, the white we keep spotting that we thought was lining, it's DEFINITELY part of her shirt collar. You can see it clearly here:



So I'm thinking this now: This version of the vest is self lined. The vest we see in the new footage is lined with a different fabric. So we're talking two different vests here. Same undershirt though. I'm thinking that, because in studying all the photos I have, the original vest DOES look self lined, but in the new footage, I don't see the herringbone pattern, so a different fabric. I hope I make sense! I think the reason their might be two different versions is because the wool IS so itchy, even with the popped collar like I spotted.

 

[Mithril Designs]

I originally did think it was the shirt collar. Now we have to rethink the shirt, and I already have one that I was pretty happy with. Erg. May just have to go with it anyway.

As far as the fabric, I still think it's so hard to be sure. So much depends on the lighting and the color correction on the film, and on the pictures. Sometimes it looks grey, sometimes a brownish. The first time I saw it, on-screen, I thought it had brown in the herringbone, but then in the pictures it looked grey. It could be the lighting washing out the herringbone so it looks like a solid, perhaps. Being able to line it in a softer fabric is really helpful, so if there are multiple versions, it gives us some leeway.

Owlfeathers, I wanted to ask, on your vest, did you use interfacing? What weight? Was it iron on?

 

[Owlfeathers]

I didn't use any interfacing, as the wool I was using was so thick to begin with. I agree, I think there may be hints of brown in there which show up depending on the lighting. The new fabric I chose for my next version which is a commission has hints of browns/tans in it even after dying it a darker shade. Message me if you want more info on it!

 

[Julietrose]

Hurray I finally got my paper mini pattern done! I just hope it will work in allowing me to draft a full size version of the pattern. Eeep!

 

[Julietrose]

Has anyone used http://forsythfabrics.com/collections/chevron-herringbone?page=3 for their fabric? If so what did you think of it. If not why? I am still on the hunt for fabric. Also has anyone looked at https://www.fabric.com/buy/0374904/...KCi12FiU2z7axto6Aq1ol0KMVujxOh2V1YhoCGNDw_wcB
what do you think?

 

[Mithril Designs]

Julietrose, the mockup is so cute!

Re: the fabric links, both of the listings are synthetic fabric. Not sure why, but I was always thinking the vest would be 100% wool. It's got that soft, fuzzy look to it. I especially don't think I'd go with the Ramtex.

I found another picture of the seam above the knee pads on the pants. I bumped the contrast a little so you can see it, so it's really not that dark, but it's definitely there. And it looks like it runs around the back of the leg, too.

 

[kelliwise]

Does anyone know what the sort of lacy effect (can't think of a better term) that's concentrated on the wrist area of the gauntlets is called? Does it have a name in the first place?

 

[MiraDarkstar]

Does anyone know what the sort of lacy effect (can't think of a better term) that's concentrated on the wrist area of the gauntlets is called? Does it have a name in the first place?
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I think you can achieve that look doing a scalloped pin tuck on a sewing machine.

 

[kelliwise]

I think you can achieve that look doing a scalloped pin tuck on a sewing machine.

Oh that's great to know, thanks! I wasn't sure what that was called either.
What I was trying to describe are the holes in the body of the fabric around the wrist. I don't think it's just the fabric itself, since it seems to be a design, with fewer and fewer as it gets closer to the elbow end.

 

[Mithril Designs]

kelliwise people were guessing earlier that the gauntlet from the wrist down was felted while the upper portion was the herringbone fabric and those marks were where the two pieces were woven together. If you look close you can see how the weight of the fabric changes. But a pin tuck would be a good way to make it look like that.

 

[Owlfeathers]

All I did with mine was to line them up until the wrist, and then it got the same look. I also felted all of my wool which helped!

 

[kelliwise]

Oh that makes some good sense. thanks guys!

 

[kelliwise]

If anyone is looking for (quick & easy) ideas for the arm wraps, I got this grey athletic tape today from Amazon http://amzn.com/B003JJEUCS and I think it looks pretty good! Eventually I'd prefer to find a good fabric option but for now this will do.

 

[Mithril Designs]

kelliwise good find!

So, look what I found! It's an illustration (amazing!), but I'm guessing they worked off a photo. It's from one of the kids' picture books.

What do you think is going on with where the top part of her arm wraps connects to the bottom? It looks like a sculptural felting to me. It's not just a simple join like it looks on the front.

Also, on the side of the bag, it looks like it gets wider towards the top.

And again, it's odd that they are illustrating it as a tan color like the action figure. I wonder if it started out tan and then they changed the color? Or maybe it is tan, but in some of the lighting situations/lighting in post, it turns grey.

 

[Owlfeathers]

Yeah I just saw this on Instagram, too. Do you know which book this was from? Hoping there are more shots they illustrated!!!! I think it's just the lighting in the scene that they replicated, because it seemed to me that it was filmed at dusk, whereas Skellig Island was filmed in full daylight, and the shots in the Falcon had the blue hyperdrive color in it. I'm still calling it at grey. This is a lot like Mustafar Padme's outfit. Depending on the lighting, the color changes. I thought that one was grey until I saw photos from the exhibit, which proved it was a tan color. It all comes down to lighting. That outfit is shown in two different lights, which really threw it off, too.

We really need this costume to go to an exhibit!!!