Resistance Crait Macrobinoculars / Neuro-Saav ND.621 Rangefinder (TLJ VD)

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  1. Trooper_trent

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    updated viewer hood. I (hopefully) improved the fitted curve, I updated the greeblies on top, fixed the flare, and lips. I thought about putting some kind of techy looking details inside so it wasn't just an open hole to the back of the camera, but if people end up adding electronics or something I didn't want to interfere.

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    Done!

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  5. Trooper_trent

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    Thanks!

    I'm also seeing something on the viewer hood itself that makes me think it's not just an open box. Oh and there's another small greeblie on the bottom, just inside the corner of the metal framing
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    Matching up angles. If you see anything that’s off let me know so I can tweak my files.
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  12. halliwax

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    Totally forgot you could see the viewer on screen. * trent the attention to detail is crazy

    But with you I should have never expected less

    “I’m in a glass case of emotion”

    Beautiful job


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  13. Trooper_trent

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    OK I know it's probably not accurate, but what about something like this? It matches with this shot where you can clearly see another silver lip, and it helps cover the back of the open viewer. Just makes it a bit cleaner in my opinion.
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    I think your first version is right without the internal viewer section. I think the silver on the photo above is the inside of the upper lip not on the edge, lit slightly by the blue screen inside. If you go to 2.12.55 there is a split second where you can see the full rectangle of the blue screen lit up filling the whole of the hood aperture. It really is a split second as he lowers the macros down and its gone by 2.12.56. Sorry I don't have the screen tech to get a good grab

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  15. halliwax

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    Oh man I like that viewing port!!


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  16. Cameron

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    im a huge fan of this. Will you be making some of these?
     
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    Not sure if this is any better

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    It also looks to me like the bottom rib of the grip is wider spaced than the three above suggesting individual pieces for each strip? Also the gap at the top where they wrap over the camera do look like individual strips? Particularly between the bottom two strips of the grip?
     
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  19. Trooper_trent

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    OK yeah that's actually quite a bit better clarity. so that's definitely not a second viewer in the hood but rather just the blue light shining onto the underside of the top lip from inside. 100% agreed
    And it looks like there are brads or bolt hols on the underside on the bottom plate.
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    Any better? Sorry, the one on the left is just HD because I'm too lazy to wrestle with my underpowered PC and the 4K disc right now!
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    Man it’s so hard to tell. If I had to guess I'd say it's an effect of uneven weathering. that maybe the bottom rib has a slight bit less silver on it, making it appear thinner and giving the appearance of a thicker space between. Because when I add digital calipers to it it, they're the same width. Looks like the grips also extend further on the bottom than they do on the top. these seem to go all the way to the edge of the bottom plate area.
    I also see that there’s no latch on the bottom where your open the door to put in the film.
    Crazy.

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  22. Trooper_trent

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    Oh jeez lol so is there a whole cover plate on the bottom?
     
  23. kurtyboy

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    Looks like it. Also look at the underside of the viewer, the lip appears to around two sides.
     
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    oh lordy. i'm gonna say it was dropped and its supposed to have a lip all the way around like the top plate does but one edge chipped off. Is there also a greeblie on the underside?
     
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    I joined the camera party today!!! Yay!!!

    Long story short I missed 3 of these in the junkyard until now! Glad the chase is over

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  26. xwingercrash

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    Awesome news! Glad you were finally able to bag one. Looks like it’s in nice shape too.


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  27. nailuj

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    Do you think the props guys build these things these days knowing that we will be trying to grab every millisecond of screen coverage. Analysing and re analysing for years to come. Then they leave the edge off one side, on the bottom, farthest from us so you can hardly see it, just to mess with our heads?
     
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    There is one, and possibly a second dark spot on the underside but I couldn't be sure if they were screws or just video artifacts.

     
  29. halliwax

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    You guys talking about the “lip” around the viewing box?


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  30. Trooper_trent

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    Yeah the chipped lip and the two dark areas on the bottom of the viewer that could be other greeblies or just dirt or shadow.
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  31. Trooper_trent

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    OK Opinions needed.
    For this bottom plate, it's clearly covering up the sliding latch that opens the gate but still has a notch cut into it for some reason. But the notch is only about 1/3 as high as the sliding switch is. In your opinion does this entire plate fit down inside the metal framing? or is it laying on top of it? It looks like it's cut off flush at the top as you can see bare metal in the gap near the top arch so it's like they peeled the textured "leather" stuff off and added the plate. But thickness wise, it's hard to tell if it's laying on top of the frame or pressfit into it. I'm leaning towards it being on top because otherwise the sliding switch area would cause it to bow out and I can't imagine they'd make that decision. Also it looks like there are 4 bolts/caps/rivets on the bottom edge. Then there are what looks to be 3 visible on the top edge, but one is way down by itself in a weird spot. Ideas?
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    I'm seeing something like this
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    * it trent... I never noticed it like that until now..

    Sure does look like a plate


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  33. nailuj

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    I agree that you can see the original backing plate at the top with the lining taken off. It looks to me that the new plate laps the edge of the old door frame 'encapsulating' it. In the top circle I see new plate lapped over and around the edge of the old plate edge covering it. The press fit option you describe.

    In the bottom circle I then see the ribs butted up against the edge of the new plate lip?

    (One thing I have learnt about this forum is how difficult it is to put into words what you think you are seeing !)




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    Yeah its definitely difficult to explain. Pictures do help.
    Yes the grips need to extend all the way to the metal border (green arrows)
    and the leather stuff needs to come off (remove in blue)
    but my main question is whether the back plate is the dimensions of the leather (it'll sit down inside the border but would have to warp in the middle because of the height of the center sliding switch) or will sit on top of it (option A or option B)
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    And for the plate itself, should I make the rivets symmetrical? I would like to assume there's another one in the upper right corner covered by his thumb. The shape of this panel on the camera isn't square BTW, the left wall comes in at a slight angle so I've incorporated that into the panel. The right bottom corner is 90 degrees. the left bottom corner is acute by 2 degrees or so, making the top edge about 3 mm shorter than the bottom edge.
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    And then there's the question of this little thing here. Is it another rivet just randomly stuck in that weird spot? Is it a different greeblie?
    Should I leave it off, add it as another rivet? what do you think?
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  35. halliwax

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    I think I see B... “I think”


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  36. kurtyboy

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    The flanges around the caps could just be artifacts. I'll see if I can get alternative frames from the UHD 4K which is a task in itself using my hardware set up!
     
  37. Trooper_trent

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    Awesome. Yeah I'm not tied down to the look of them, just more trying to get an idea of positioning, sizing, etc. That would be great if you could get any additional shots.

    Here’s a quick test print.
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    Blimey. You don't hang around. Yes, thats what I had in my minds eye.
     
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    Crazy! I love it


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  41. Trooper_trent

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    OK I'm calling that set done. I threw it up on the JY if anyone wants it. I'm going to print the updated files and do a few more checks and I'll offer kits in my etsy or something if anyone wants 3D printed parts.

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    The finished build looks awesome Trent, congrats & well done on all the screen accurate 3D modelling, I will differently be up for some parts :thumbsup
     
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    Looks fantastic! I am also up for a set of parts to complete my build.
     
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    That’s a beauty! If I didn’t snag a camera last week this sucker would be mine


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  45. Trooper_trent

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    Just received a sportster IV I the mail thanks to a certain member who shall remain nameless unless they specify otherwise.
    Look how close I got on the trapezoid piece just from looking at these crappy screenshots. Lol I was quite pleased
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    And here’s the revised kit. The viewer is much closer now. Correct length, depth, flare, lips, greeblies, etc.
    and the other parts are all dialed in. The grips have been lengthened so they touch the metal frame border on the underside. Let me know if you see anything else that needs to be modified
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    The Kit looks amazing Trent :thumbsup who was that super nice member who looked after you, those Sportster IV Cameras are like finding chicken teeth lol!!
     
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    So close it’s scary!

    The updated kit is out of this world!


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  48. Cameron

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    When might this kit be hitting the market?
     
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    Awesome work dude...looks incredible! I’m definitely down for a kit.


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  50. Trooper_trent

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    I have to figure out how to get the hood to print reliably. It's a 4 hour print and with DLP printers you don't find out that there's anything wrong with it until it's completely done (since it grows upside down in the resin). I've started printing some sets but that one part is giving me some trouble. Once I get a few sets ready, I'll start a run.
     
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