He's getting pissed now, two messages in a row, saying that "they are the same thing" "i never made any guarantees, etc, etc."
Message 1:
"It IS a Graflex 3 Cell Flash Gun just perhaps not "vintage" - meaning "old".
And I made no such claims.
I'm not an expert in vintage camera equipment.
As far as I understand it even a reproduction Graflex works perfectly well and functions the exact same way
that vintage Greflex does and works perfectly well with vintage Graflex Cameras.
But if will function just as well as a "vintage" flash gun even if you are using it for the purpose of taking photos
with a Graflex Camera.
But it is exactly that - It is EXACTLY a Graflex 3 Cell Flash Gun as described and I bought it second hand from someone else
- you're just being picky about the age and when certain parts may have been produced.
But I assure you - you are holding EXACTLY a Graflex Flash Gun of the same style as was used for Luke Skywalker's Lightsaber.
Exactly the same style.
I never said it was ACTUAL prop used in the movie, believe me if it had been the actual thing that Mark Hamill held in his hand
then I would have asked thousands for it instead of hundreds ... But it looks and feels EXACTLY the same and is EXACTLY the
same size with the same details and it works. So there is no difference except in perhaps age on some parts.
And as I said, I did not specify that it was "vintage" or "genuine" and I listed it as "Sold As Is" and "No Returns" if you read
the description correctly.
AND of course you never asked me any questions before bidding or before the auction was over and you could have very easily.
You could have asked to see more photos - and you did not.
You could have asked me a hundred questions about it - and you did not.
You received EXACTLY what was in the photos except for the DVD which I said was not part of the sale - you got EXACTLY
what you bid on and won.
Thank you. "
Message 2:
"The description is NOT misleading it IS a Graflex - from top to bottom it is an EXACT Graflex 3 Cell...
Just perhaps not a vintage one, and as I said, I did not list it as such. I did not list it as "genuine' or "vintage" in the description.
if you got half a "vintage" flash gun then you still ended up with a whole Graflex - but part "vintage".
But I assure you the WHOLE thing is still a Graflex style flash gun.
All I said it was - it was what it is - A Graflex 3 Cell - no more and no less.
If you look up places that sell reproductions they still list them as Graflex and even stamp the name Graflex
on the bottom and on the side of the clamp and they work with a Graflex Camera.
Therefore they ARE Graflex Flash Gun's because they are that STYLE, they're just not "vintage."
Hey, Graflex are very difficult to find - you should be very lucky you got one at all at the price you did.
Sometimes people have to buy 2 or 3 to get a complete Graflex 3 Cell the way that they want it.
As you saw, mine did not have the Red Button or certain things with it - that was all in the photos which
is why I said it is "Sold as is".
You would have to get at least a 2nd Graflex to complete it or a reproduction Red Button.
Also, you know you can get Graflex 2 Cells pretty cheaply - if you wanted to you could just put
the one you got from me with a complete Graflex 2 Cell and have a complete "vintage" Graflex.
Even parts are worth quite a lot by themselves - a vintage Graflex Clamp or 3 Cell bottom can
both sell for a LOT of money.
I've seen just the very bottom part of a 3 Cell go for over $200.00 by itself that's because many
people buy 2 Cells and then find a 3 Cell bottom and Bam! They have a complete 3 Cell...
Also the Clamp is used not just with Luke's Lightsaber but also for Ben Kenobi's Lightsaber
so a vintage Graflex Clamp is almost as valuable as the 3 Cell bottom.
Maybe just as valuable - vintage parts are very rare and valuable."
My response to him was
"You say all of this, but what you sold me IS NOT a GRAFLEX 3 Cell. It is a Replica 3 Cell with a some graflex parts. Whether it looks like a Graflex and functions like a Graflex does not make it a Graflex. It is not "EXACTLY a Graflex Flash Gun" I never assumed it was the actual prop from the movie, nor that it was a replica. Your description said it is a "Graflex Flash Gun of the same type" but it is not the same type, it looks like it is the same type because people have manufactured replicas to be as such. But these are NOT Graflex 3 Cells, it is a PARKS 3 Cell. I didn't ask any questions because I did not assume I was going to be scammed out of $300 for half of a Graflex. Your description did not say it was "Graflex Style" it says "Graflex 3 Cell Flash Gun, the same type used" which is not indicative of what you sold me. You sold me something that looks like a graflex with some parts that appear to be of the same type. Your pictures were not indicative of this either, someone who wasn't looking closely would not even realize that it came without the red button. Not one picture even highlighted this flaw. I knew it was without the button, and this is not the issue here, the issue is that for $300 you sold me half of a replica. Your previously listed auctions, after further investigation, highlighted facts such as "VINTAGE" and "may have some parts missing or replaced" which is found here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Gra...371?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27fc35bb73)
or the previous auction you just sold which contained the rest of the vintage Graflex parts here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Graflex-3-C...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
With the argument that "the vintage parts are very rare and valuable" you knew this and sold one vintage flash for the price of two"
