QMx & Other New Sonic Screwdrivers Thread
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greatwazoo42
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Just don't make them with your butt. That's sorta frowned upon in places, you know.
Going back to original materials vs. looks just like original materials: I'll go for "looks just like" since that option tends to turn out to be hella less expensive in a lot of cases.
Going back to original materials vs. looks just like original materials: I'll go for "looks just like" since that option tends to turn out to be hella less expensive in a lot of cases.
mooneye63
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Erm... The Nickfox & General Frosty,
Can I just point out that CT put sound into is 10th Sonic without changing the size. He is also going to produce a sonc that is a TV remote also without changing the dimensions! Not only that but the recently released version with the industrial strength crackle also has a louder sound than the CO toy too!
Which brings me on to something that was mentioned in an earlier post & not addressed. It was said that until now noone has gone into such detail to get the Sonics right before now, well I can't standby & leave that unchallenged. CT has, & is still, working to get the best Sonic out there that there is! Don't forget it was he who shared his experiments with Crackle finish. So credit where credits due please guys!
Can I just point out that CT put sound into is 10th Sonic without changing the size. He is also going to produce a sonc that is a TV remote also without changing the dimensions! Not only that but the recently released version with the industrial strength crackle also has a louder sound than the CO toy too!
Which brings me on to something that was mentioned in an earlier post & not addressed. It was said that until now noone has gone into such detail to get the Sonics right before now, well I can't standby & leave that unchallenged. CT has, & is still, working to get the best Sonic out there that there is! Don't forget it was he who shared his experiments with Crackle finish. So credit where credits due please guys!
Of course I'd prefer sound to be included - I know its been done before, but not in the original props so if Kenney and Qmx have their hearts set on making it an exact copy of the real props, then sound is out. BUT if it IS possible they can make it happen AND there is enough demand for it (I believe there is) then I would fully support it.
Right now, it's a waiting game but thanks to Kenney's contributions to this thread, the discussion has dramatically shifted gears from "Qmx are screwing this up" to "Qmx are really taking charge of this!"
So...in that respect, these are all good things. I'm sure whatever CT releases will be top notch, but considering how what Qmx is working on is closer to the source material than we could ever hope for, that is where I personally am leaning towards right now.
Right now, it's a waiting game but thanks to Kenney's contributions to this thread, the discussion has dramatically shifted gears from "Qmx are screwing this up" to "Qmx are really taking charge of this!"
So...in that respect, these are all good things. I'm sure whatever CT releases will be top notch, but considering how what Qmx is working on is closer to the source material than we could ever hope for, that is where I personally am leaning towards right now.
I'm not trying to belittle CT's sonics. They are fantastic!
...But this thread is about the QMX sonics. Can we really not go one whole page without this turning into CT against (Insert sonic manufacturer here) battle?
This isn't about any of that. If you like CT's go buy it! It's a fantastic product with amazing detailing and features. But don't let your love of a great product ruin the experience that people waiting for THIS product have.
No one can take away what CT has done, but let's see what someone else can do when faced with the challenge of making a screen accurate product.
Now, can we please stay on topic?
ON TOPIC:
Kenney, what do you foresee as being the most difficult part of each of the sonics? I'm sure they each have unique challenges, but I'm curious what you, as a professional, think will be the most challenging aspect of them.
-Nick
...But this thread is about the QMX sonics. Can we really not go one whole page without this turning into CT against (Insert sonic manufacturer here) battle?
This isn't about any of that. If you like CT's go buy it! It's a fantastic product with amazing detailing and features. But don't let your love of a great product ruin the experience that people waiting for THIS product have.
No one can take away what CT has done, but let's see what someone else can do when faced with the challenge of making a screen accurate product.
Now, can we please stay on topic?
ON TOPIC:
Kenney, what do you foresee as being the most difficult part of each of the sonics? I'm sure they each have unique challenges, but I'm curious what you, as a professional, think will be the most challenging aspect of them.
-Nick
phez
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The more I look at the paint job on that QMX Sonic the more it looks like some type of textured paint (like a wrinkle finish only more round) that is black washed and then the high spots sanded off to reveal the white tops, sort of backwards to how I thought it would be done :confused. It does not look so much like a cracked procilen as it it looks like sort of a fine grain leather type pattern. Any one else seeing that?
It is hard to tell without a closer shot though.
QMX could always do something like they did with the Fansworths and please everyone (and sell more product). They could do the Artisan series and have the prop made using the same materials and techniques dead on to what is used on the show except without the stage wear (low numbers more hand work and this has not been done) and then do the lights and sound version with the cast handle etc (less hand work) ... Just a thought, it seems like the same CNC files could be used to make both.
It is hard to tell without a closer shot though.
QMX could always do something like they did with the Fansworths and please everyone (and sell more product). They could do the Artisan series and have the prop made using the same materials and techniques dead on to what is used on the show except without the stage wear (low numbers more hand work and this has not been done) and then do the lights and sound version with the cast handle etc (less hand work) ... Just a thought, it seems like the same CNC files could be used to make both.
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kcpstudio
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Hey guys,
Well... for me... I think the crackle on the 10th is what's going to absorb the time on this thing... no doubt. The cracks are very tiny indeed. Don't get me wrong.... I have to airbrush all the time. I just hate airbrushing the same parts over and over and over. No ****.... I actually had a dream the other day that I was back on set looking for one of the other sonics to get dimensions on it. The funny thing is that the sonic I was looking for doesn't exist. LOL
I just think that when all said and done, a lot of you will look at this against pics I will post of the original (if I'm allowed) and you'll be happy. That's all there is to it.
Well... for me... I think the crackle on the 10th is what's going to absorb the time on this thing... no doubt. The cracks are very tiny indeed. Don't get me wrong.... I have to airbrush all the time. I just hate airbrushing the same parts over and over and over. No ****.... I actually had a dream the other day that I was back on set looking for one of the other sonics to get dimensions on it. The funny thing is that the sonic I was looking for doesn't exist. LOL
I just think that when all said and done, a lot of you will look at this against pics I will post of the original (if I'm allowed) and you'll be happy. That's all there is to it.
thetasigma
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It can be done with a SA sized Sonic and has been done. I know CT normally shouldn't be mentioned on here but his Sonic's are the right size and has enough room for the sound chip plus speaker.
eclipse74569
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Uhm, seriously????? Dude, not trying to bust your chops but QMx is going for 100% screen accurate right down to the entire way the originals were made...The original screen used pieces couldn't incorporate sound, there was just no room...Which means there's a 75% chance that QMx's sonic won't have sound...the other 25% is us hoping that they find a way without deviating from how the original Sonics were made!!!
P.S. I like CT's sonic, and I wish I could afford one on my salary, (unfortunately I'm having to resort to a modified CO toy). I like that it does incorporate sound, but while it's Screen Accurately sized, he's deviated from the originals to get the sound into the sonic. This is something QMx is trying to avoid (and by avoid I mean straying from how they make it exactly like the originals, not getting sound into the sonic).
This...made me laugh
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kcpstudio
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Well guys.... I'm off to bed.... been working on a prop for a new movie since yeasterday morning with only a couple (3) hours sleep. I must say I enjoyed reading everyones posts. Ya know... I have more posts in the last two days than I had for the last several years. So, I'll jump on and off tomorrow and see whats new.
Till then.....
Till then.....
Actually, to be accurate, been staring far too long at the real props. That is the only reference I'm going off. Hi res images of the real prop.
The pictures of the QMx 10 are distorted by cabinet glass and camera angle through the glass. I'll wait until decent images are posted of it before making a detailed comparison again.
mooneye63
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Interesting to read about an original plastic strip in the 'blue slot'. I thought so, having seen a rather good close up picture of 10SS in one of the recent show handbooks. I've added one on mine which as you can see from the picture is now dead flush with the Sonic barrel.
As you can see below no dip & it feels nice & smooth. A perfect fit! It was quite easy to do of course & for those wanting to know what I used, would you believe I cut to size thick blue plastic from the cover of a ring binder! Ah the secrets out!
As you can see below no dip & it feels nice & smooth. A perfect fit! It was quite easy to do of course & for those wanting to know what I used, would you believe I cut to size thick blue plastic from the cover of a ring binder! Ah the secrets out!
Kris Lyssara
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QMX definitely seems to be going for a "Original METHOD" line, as opposed to anything else. Their Star Wars products are going down the route of same molds (or the closest possible recreations of the original molds/bucks) as the originals, same materials, etc. and I'm thinking their Sonic Screwdrivers are headed in the same direction. Direct replicas of the prop, made with the same materials, with the same methods, for display, not use. Honestly, I really like this idea, as it's the closest many of us can get to a screen-used (In my mind, an officially licensed product that's made with the same materials, molds/blueprints, and methods is on the same level of desirability as a production-made non-used prop).
themeinside
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I'm pretty sure that's not the reason the screen used Sonic didn't have sound- incorporating sound into a screen filmed prop would a) be an absoloute nightmare for the sound guys in the dub, and b) would be extremely difficult for it to be loud enough to be picked up effectively enough for filming. It's not so much a case of 'couldn't', more a case of 'unnecessary and surplus to requirements'.
Also, the idea for an Artisan series replica to this level of detail, including all the idiosyncracies of the prop for a higher price, and a standard model, not constructed identically to the prop- more an idealised version is a good idea.
EDIT: Just read that the 'prototypes' at SDCC were for the Artisan Line- suggests Kenney's work is for that line also- and may be the only Sonic replica coming from QMX?
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RazzaMista
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Hey guys, I'm new to the RPF but have been watching the sonic screwdriver threads for a couple of months
Here's an interview with Nick Robatto at comic con about the new QMx screwdrivers where he describes the materials and processes etc..
Talking Sonic Screwdrivers with Doctor Who's Prop Maker Nick Robatto‏ - YouTube
Here's an interview with Nick Robatto at comic con about the new QMx screwdrivers where he describes the materials and processes etc..
Talking Sonic Screwdrivers with Doctor Who's Prop Maker Nick Robatto‏ - YouTube
greatwazoo42
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Very cool!
We can't expect the $200 mark. I'm not arguing that it's impossible or anything... It's just that when that target price was announced, it was a totally different project with totally different contractors... Kenney wasn't involved yet, so I think right now we have to be satisfied with the new status of the price still being worked out.
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