QMx & Other New Sonic Screwdrivers Thread
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phez
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It looks dead on to me (as it should considering who made it :lol). That part is weird, when you photograph it with the strut sides directly up and down (like in this photo) it looks sort of square and shorter but if you photograph it with the bevels up and at the top and the bottom it looks more long and skinny.
That thing looks just awesome!!!!!
Just out of curiosity, was the original intent of the acrylic in the side bar to allow the light from the slide tube to show through?
If you check your reference photos the windows are slightly bowed on the hero all the way back to the 9th (RULE#1: stay out of your corners on the cleanup pass :lol ). That was wrong on all of the current replicas.
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Whatcha onabout? There is no light in the slide tube, just the end bulb. On the prop, the recess doesn't go right through the body anyway, it is just a groove machined deep into the surface.
The proto pictured is different to the prop, subtley in some ways, not so in others. Like I said, it seems to be idealised which is why I know it is NR's and not Kenney's work going off what Kenney wants to do with things in terms of accuracy and the detail he has at his fingertips.
greatwazoo42
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This discussion (and the prop for that matter) remind me of my favorite line from Excalibur: "A dream to some...a nightmare to others!"
phez
Sr Member
No they said that the acrilic was on the origenal prop, I was asking if the original intent of the thing was to be a window that never panned out on the actual prop. I was sort of asking the prop maker as none of us would know the answer to that.
No, not at all. I'd buy that proto as is. It's nice and I certainly wouldn't want a 100% screen accurate sonic, it is mullered. Idealised is the only way to go with these props as they really were never meant to be scrutinised so closely. But some things don't need to be changed and do stand out as different. I think that needs to be addressed, not to be picky, but because they are noticed and if we don't spot them and say something, then what's the point of discussing them in detail.
greatwazoo42
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It just seems that different people are observing different details from the same portions of the same pictures of the same prop. I find myself wondering if there will ever be a concensus on some of the finer details among us all.
No they aren't. The corners are, but the edges are dead straight on both hero props. Awful pictures here, but you can clearly see that here...
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greatwazoo42
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Maybe it is time for a compare thread between screen caps, reference photos and the SDCC images?
kcpstudio
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Hi guys,
This is not an idealized version of the 10th. I machined most of that sonic for Nick.... the emitter, the pivot ball section, the crown sleeve (looks like a kings crown and when you closed the sonic... the two crown details mesh together), and the black delrin end cap. All of these parts are spot on.... I can't say it any other way but it is DEAD BALLS ACCURATE to the screen hero in the prop departments lock up. lol My dimensions are to within + or - 1 or 2 thousands of an inch. The thickness of a piece of paper is about 4 to 5 thousands. Now, as for the two mid section pieces... the painted handle and the aluminum sleeve in the back that Nick machined up.... I don't have those back yet so I can't speculate on those parts as far as accuracy. If those two parts are off vs to my CAD (which is off the original).... then I will correct those parts. However, from looking at his work.... he's spot on!
As for the button slider? He's spot on! the slider is square like that on the hero! You are correct to say the side was eventually painted blue.... like I said earlier.... this prop was repaired and repainted a lot. When all is said and done, and before it gets released, I will make sure it is exact.
As for the emitter not being long enough? It is correct.... it is the correct length etc. The windos are like that however the picture could be playing trics on you. It's not scalloped or bowed.... it's exactly as the origianl. The picture makes it look that way. It has a straight line with rounded corners. But if we want to get really accurate... the edges aren't perfectly parallel on the hero.... the mill cut tem off. I kept that detail in there. But the edges are straight with rounded corners... the pic is a bad example. I mean... come on.... I take a ton of photos.... I laser scan each part.... I then spend a week on set and in my hotel room going over everything with a pair of calipers and micrometers... I would think I got it correct. Then.... I leave machine flaws in the CAD. What I mean is that if the mill they used didn't cut a straight line.... I left that detail in as well. I'm about to post some serious pics of the entire prop inside and out to put an end to all questions....... hey wait a sec.... that's what you guys are trying to get me to do. Ya almost got me. lol
Seriously guys.... there should be no one trying to make a comparison of this prop to someone elses work. I can't account for what they did. I can only tell you this and GIVE YOU MY WORD.... this prop is exact to withing a couple thousands of an inch. I am making this exact to the original right from the prop lock up. Think of this..... Nick asked me to machine the complicated parts of the 10th. Now, if Nick trusts me and is relying on my CAD because its accurate to the original (and he worked on the show).... don't you think that should say it all? And after all that... if someone still finds something different on mine vs another one out there..... well.... all I can say is why would you compare this prop to anything other than the original? Because its that level of accuracy that you'll have to go to the original. And, when this run comes out..... I may have to have QMx post some of my detail pics of the hero along side my work. You guys will come to hate me because if I post pics, you will have nothing more to talk about. lol
Just trust me when I say this is it. Asp9mm... if you are saying that the pic above of the 1oth sonic is a NB rebuild.... you are wrong my friend. I'm sorry.... you're not correct. The above is right off the 10th sonic that the prop master himself handed me as he took it out of the prop lock up. They had one hero 10th sonic in lock up along with 4 hero 11th sonics. The only thing Nick did with respect to machining was the handle with the crackle paint and the aluminum barrel in the back by the black cap. I did the rest using my CAD from the hero.
Let me tell you a story about a fan of a show that I built the heros for. This guy was so damm hard core that he belived everything that came out of his ass. One day he sees a pic of one of my heros (we never talked before and he didn't know who I was) and starts to tear it apart. It was quite funny actually. I jumped in and started a conversation. Without him knowing who I was, I tried to correct him. He wouldn't give. He stated how he had access to the originals... he was able to take one apart and he knew for a fact that I was wrong. Well, turns out that those heros belong to me and not the studio... all they did was rent the stuff from me. They heros never went anywhere. Right after the show, they were returned to me. So, I decided to come cleam and tell him about the heros and who I was. Do you think this was enough? No, he swore I was not who I was and stuck to his story. I even shot him some pics. Now, when I have a fan tell me (the guy who made the ****) that the hero wasn't the real deal.... there's no way I'll ever be able to satisfy someone like that.
The prop above is exact and there's really not more to say about that. I don't know what you are comparing the above prop to. The prop above (the one I machined a great deal of the parts for)... I'm comparing to the hero the prop master handed me on set and made me sign an NDA for.
This is not an idealized version of the 10th. I machined most of that sonic for Nick.... the emitter, the pivot ball section, the crown sleeve (looks like a kings crown and when you closed the sonic... the two crown details mesh together), and the black delrin end cap. All of these parts are spot on.... I can't say it any other way but it is DEAD BALLS ACCURATE to the screen hero in the prop departments lock up. lol My dimensions are to within + or - 1 or 2 thousands of an inch. The thickness of a piece of paper is about 4 to 5 thousands. Now, as for the two mid section pieces... the painted handle and the aluminum sleeve in the back that Nick machined up.... I don't have those back yet so I can't speculate on those parts as far as accuracy. If those two parts are off vs to my CAD (which is off the original).... then I will correct those parts. However, from looking at his work.... he's spot on!
As for the button slider? He's spot on! the slider is square like that on the hero! You are correct to say the side was eventually painted blue.... like I said earlier.... this prop was repaired and repainted a lot. When all is said and done, and before it gets released, I will make sure it is exact.
As for the emitter not being long enough? It is correct.... it is the correct length etc. The windos are like that however the picture could be playing trics on you. It's not scalloped or bowed.... it's exactly as the origianl. The picture makes it look that way. It has a straight line with rounded corners. But if we want to get really accurate... the edges aren't perfectly parallel on the hero.... the mill cut tem off. I kept that detail in there. But the edges are straight with rounded corners... the pic is a bad example. I mean... come on.... I take a ton of photos.... I laser scan each part.... I then spend a week on set and in my hotel room going over everything with a pair of calipers and micrometers... I would think I got it correct. Then.... I leave machine flaws in the CAD. What I mean is that if the mill they used didn't cut a straight line.... I left that detail in as well. I'm about to post some serious pics of the entire prop inside and out to put an end to all questions....... hey wait a sec.... that's what you guys are trying to get me to do. Ya almost got me. lol
Seriously guys.... there should be no one trying to make a comparison of this prop to someone elses work. I can't account for what they did. I can only tell you this and GIVE YOU MY WORD.... this prop is exact to withing a couple thousands of an inch. I am making this exact to the original right from the prop lock up. Think of this..... Nick asked me to machine the complicated parts of the 10th. Now, if Nick trusts me and is relying on my CAD because its accurate to the original (and he worked on the show).... don't you think that should say it all? And after all that... if someone still finds something different on mine vs another one out there..... well.... all I can say is why would you compare this prop to anything other than the original? Because its that level of accuracy that you'll have to go to the original. And, when this run comes out..... I may have to have QMx post some of my detail pics of the hero along side my work. You guys will come to hate me because if I post pics, you will have nothing more to talk about. lol
Just trust me when I say this is it. Asp9mm... if you are saying that the pic above of the 1oth sonic is a NB rebuild.... you are wrong my friend. I'm sorry.... you're not correct. The above is right off the 10th sonic that the prop master himself handed me as he took it out of the prop lock up. They had one hero 10th sonic in lock up along with 4 hero 11th sonics. The only thing Nick did with respect to machining was the handle with the crackle paint and the aluminum barrel in the back by the black cap. I did the rest using my CAD from the hero.
Let me tell you a story about a fan of a show that I built the heros for. This guy was so damm hard core that he belived everything that came out of his ass. One day he sees a pic of one of my heros (we never talked before and he didn't know who I was) and starts to tear it apart. It was quite funny actually. I jumped in and started a conversation. Without him knowing who I was, I tried to correct him. He wouldn't give. He stated how he had access to the originals... he was able to take one apart and he knew for a fact that I was wrong. Well, turns out that those heros belong to me and not the studio... all they did was rent the stuff from me. They heros never went anywhere. Right after the show, they were returned to me. So, I decided to come cleam and tell him about the heros and who I was. Do you think this was enough? No, he swore I was not who I was and stuck to his story. I even shot him some pics. Now, when I have a fan tell me (the guy who made the ****) that the hero wasn't the real deal.... there's no way I'll ever be able to satisfy someone like that.
The prop above is exact and there's really not more to say about that. I don't know what you are comparing the above prop to. The prop above (the one I machined a great deal of the parts for)... I'm comparing to the hero the prop master handed me on set and made me sign an NDA for.
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Yeah, sorry, my typo :unsure
The pictues do make the emitter windows look bowed, but if you say they are straight then, they are obviously straight. It is a trick of the camera. Just goes to show how tricks of the camera and lens distortion can make something look entirely different.
I'm wasn't comparing the proto sonic to any other build but the two hero sonics. Sorry for the NB confusion.
Wait until we find out that the paint is Plasti-kotelol:lol.
Then it is going to hit the fan :lol
I have no idea but it looks like it in that photo, and judging from how this thread is going so far :lol
It will if they try to convince us it is Heritage Gold again :angry
greatwazoo42
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It's actually Elmers Glue, Chez-Wiz, Nail Polish and Yak Snot mixed and applied in a simple but grueling 473 step process. KIDDING!!!
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