Old Obi Wan costume question
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Elena Amethyste
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Hi everyone, and thanks for the wonderful references that are in this post, they are very precious, I have already made two of these costumes and still discover new things! Since you are all so prepared, is there any idea on the material of the inner tunic / shirt?
Sabs
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About the hem...
I've been making my own tunic and I've noticed something on some of the pictures that previously I thought might have just been a tuck or fold but now I have found a picture that confirms that the center front of the tunic is much shorter than the sides. I think it's time we all update our patterns.
Just look at that swoop!
It explains why in the museum images the corner of the hem is so high.
My bet is that it was mess up from the seamstress, or it was done on purpose so it wouldn't be in the way when walking, because I know i've stepped on mine before.
Also, it really looks like to me that there is a seam right between Alec's legs. Does this mean the side seams of the top half don't align with the side seams of the bottom? are there two side seams to the bottom?
I've been making my own tunic and I've noticed something on some of the pictures that previously I thought might have just been a tuck or fold but now I have found a picture that confirms that the center front of the tunic is much shorter than the sides. I think it's time we all update our patterns.
Just look at that swoop!
It explains why in the museum images the corner of the hem is so high.
My bet is that it was mess up from the seamstress, or it was done on purpose so it wouldn't be in the way when walking, because I know i've stepped on mine before.
Also, it really looks like to me that there is a seam right between Alec's legs. Does this mean the side seams of the top half don't align with the side seams of the bottom? are there two side seams to the bottom?
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If this were laid out flat, the robe would flair out to a semi-circular pattern that cut above his feet. The circumference to the sides of the flair would be what drapes down when word while the middle is pulled up. It is exactly for the reason you posted, so the actor can walk in them. The hem looks to be an even 2-3 inches. It also looks like the upper torso and the "skirt" are two seperate pieces instead of the front being just one panel.
Sabs
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this is a must because there is no seam at the shoulder. It's folded over with a seam under the arm that connects to the side seam.
I don't know if I believe what I wrote earlier about the skirt being 5 pieces though anymore. I think what I'm seeing btw his legs is just fraying.
It being kimono-cut doesn't really affect that choice. The Emperor's robe is kimono-cut and it's floor length. I think it may have been due to available textile size. Four panels to make the upper torso and another four to make the lower torso.
The front hem is cut high to keep from tripping when you walk. The silk fabric frays so easily and I'm sure they kept in mind to make it with as few seams as possible. The upper portion of the robe is cut as one piece, the skirt portion in three. Two fronts and one back. Then the collar is a separate piece.
The upper portion has the sleeves cut as part of the body instead of being separate pieces.
The upper portion has the sleeves cut as part of the body instead of being separate pieces.
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Making notes on all of this; I'm planning a 1/6 Old Kenobi figure in the intermediate future and I want to make sure that I get the outfit right.
I'll be remaking my costume with more screen accurate fabrics than the ones I used for the costume I showed earlier in this thread.
I'll bet his pants weren't tucked into the boots while filming in Tunisia to help manage the heat. In the Death Star they're tucked into the boots. I have a Screencap of it.
I'll bet his pants weren't tucked into the boots while filming in Tunisia to help manage the heat. In the Death Star they're tucked into the boots. I have a Screencap of it.
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Sabs
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If you had 4 panels at the top, you'd have a seam down the back at the very least, which there is none, and you'd have shoulder seams at least vertically.
I could see the skirt being made of 5-7 parts to get better use of fabric, but that's hard to confirm without seeing the tunic flat.
Too bad Psab's curator connection couldn't put the robe flat out for us. I'd also love to see how they finished the seams on the inside. This fabric frays so easily, had to zig zag stitch every edge.
It's likely serged on the inside and frankly the material could very well be double layered. The warp threads are literally as fine as a human hair. I've done stress tests on small pieces and as a single layer it tears like paper. Double layered? It's strong as a tank. The skirt isn't 5 to 7 pieces otherwise you would see a ton of seams during the scene in Obi-Wans hut when he pulls the saber out of the trunk. Just two seams. One on each side.
Sabs
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I'm pretty sure the collar isn't like that. It's straight the whole way. The grain direction changes on the back of the neck. The scarf part too. The grain runs the path of the edge.
You can see it pretty clearly in these pictures I stole from Rebel Legion:
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