New 10th Doctor Sonic Screwdriver Universal Remote

[AlexBC]

Well, with the explicit statements in LKH that Smith's sonic has a psychic interface and the "same software, different case" revelation in DOTD I think it's safe to assume that the classic sonics also had a psychic interface aswell.

 

[Straker]

I'm not as familiar with the classic episodes but there are many occasions where Tennant and Smith in the new series interact with the sonic in ways that strongly suggest that he's using it without a direct kinetic interaction. The way Tennant holds it up to the side of his head as if it's feeding him information,

Or as if he's listening for beeps or pinging sounds?

the way Smith looks into the core as if into the eyes of someone to gain the truth

Or the way he's looking into the clear green section which has a readout in it similar to the blue strip o nthe side of the 9th and 10th Doctor's sonics?

- and being a product, and therefore an extension, of the TARDIS, which does a lot on the physic level (and not just for the Doctor, but for those in close proximity to it's time energy - like how it translates all languages in the minds of those communicating in different tongues), I think it's safe to assume there's more than meets the eye. Even if it was never directly explained in the show as being such, I tend to agree with any fan speculation that it works psychically.

But seeing as how there are definite control surfaces on the sonic such as buttons and twisty end caps which a psychically controlled device wouldn't need...

And come to think of it, the classic episodes I have seen have the doctor using it in certain ways, with or without the retraction - which perhaps is a setting that simply changes the mode in which it operates, one being a simply key to open doors or manipulate electronics, the other being a way to gather information and feed it to him, which also suggest this link.

Right, except that it doesn't show that. Pertwee had his own set of rules for how to manipulate the prop, making it look like the sections above and below the thumb rest were definitely controls for the settings, however seeing as how pre-Day of the Doctor none of the sonics of the classic era had scan abilities and only ran locks, screws, sonic lance functions or sometimes an electronic override for electronic locks and on a couple occasions served as a power source for other devices, I don't think how other actors used the sonic is any indication of it's function as it's generally VERY inconsistent from one actor to another OR in Tom Baker's case, one episode to another. Hell Tom hardly ever consistently pointed the bullet or magnet end at something the same way despite how it was used previously.

Although I'm not confident in the consistency that retracted or not yields the same result. He may use it as a key in either way, but this inconsistency doesn't seem to matter when you look at the way he operates the TARDIS. He just flips switches and levers like a child playing with a toy kitchen set, which is the beauty of his character in my opinion. But sometimes we'll see him hold it up to something (and sometimes it won't even make the sonic-y noise) and then announce a conclusion. I'll poke around to see if I can find some examples of this - I've been watching a lot of the Pertwee episodes recently so it's likely I've seen something in one of his episodes - but some of the classic Whovians may be able to shed light on the topic.

The way I see it, you have to sometimes ignore how the sonic was used, or held in the classic series...especially where Tom was concerned because there is no rhyme or reason aside from what served the script and if you want an "in story" explanation you won't always get one.

Well, with the explicit statements in LKH that Smith's sonic has a psychic interface and the "same software, different case" revelation in DOTD I think it's safe to assume that the classic sonics also had a psychic interface aswell.

No, it's not. The sonic in Day of the Doctor used by Hurt was a modified classic sonic. Usually I look at the classic sonics as analog where the modern sonics are digital. The War sonic used by Hurt has a very distinct module on the bottom which suggests to me that there is contained therein the electronics to make it more "digital" like the modern sonics. Previously aside from being able to SOMETIMES override electronic locks, I can't think of a time when the classic sonics were used as a scanner, medical or otherwise unlike the modern sonics. Usually the Doctor was just very observant in ways to make Sherlock blush and needed not use the sonic for such things.

 

[AlexBC]

The classic sonic, while mainly being used to unlock doors, was used several times to scan for frequencies, detonate mines, reverse a miniaturisation machine, break hypnosis. So, we do have examples of the classic sonic doing more than just open doors.

It sounds like you're coming up with just more fan theories. We CAN feel at least a little safe assuming the sonics had some psychic interface in the past in light of comments made in LKH and DOTD.

 

[VortexRunner]

I would have to agree with everything Straker has said. Except for the assumptions made about the War Doctor's Sonic. It's only meant to service the script everyone, it doesn't lead from one thing being used in one episode being the rule for all of the screwdrivers...

The implementation of a light on the War Doctor's Sonic implies to me to be the producers way of linking old and new. That Sonic in my opinion is neither classic or new series, merely an 'inbetween' to fill the gap in designs.

 

[AlexBC]

Second Doctor's had a light.

The simple fact is that we've been given onscreen confirmation that the Smith sonic has a psychic interface and that "they're all the same device aren't they? Same sonic, different case".

Since, as far as I can recall, we had no definite onscreen mention of the classic sonics operation, the possibility it was also psychic (retroactively) is not a ridiculous argument to make.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

Goes back and rechecks the title of this thread to make sure he is in the right place.......

 

[Doctor Octoroc]

Goes back and rechecks the title of this thread to make sure he is in the right place.......

I was about to ask Chris or Richard if they wanted to weigh in...

 

[darthriley]

Anybody know what the blue strip on the side of the 10th doctor sonic in the show is for? I mean it seems like something you would use for readings but I could be wrong.

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[GreenArrowHood]

Anybody know what the blue strip on the side of the 10th doctor sonic in the show is for? I mean it seems like something you would use for readings but I could be wrong.

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It's to change the settings on the sonic, it's a scroll-y touch-pad strip. Ironically enough, the only Doctor ever shown to be changing the settings on the 9/10 sonic in this way is 11

 

[darthriley]

It's to change the settings on the sonic. Ironically enough, the only time the Doctor is ever shown to be changing the settings on the 9/10 sonic is 11

Oh okay, because I remembered in the end of the 9/10th doctor sonic's days Matt smith scanned the crack in the wall and looked into the sonic like there were readings on it.

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[GreenArrowHood]

Oh okay, because I remembered in the end of the 9/10th doctor sonic's days Matt smith scanned the crack in the wall and looked into the sonic like there were readings on it.

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Yeah, I think he was looking at the transparent tube, mainly because it was the closest part of the 9/10 sonic to the section on his own where he does the same thing. (Although looking at the strip makes much more sense, like a scrolling LED belt buckle! ) Later in the episode, after Amy gives him his sonic back and he's handcuffed to the radiator, you can see him scrolling through settings while arguing with her.

 

[darthriley]

Yeah, I think he was looking at the transparent tube, mainly because it was the closest part of the 9/10 sonic to the section on his own where he does the same thing. Later in the episode, after Amy gives him his sonic back and he's handcuffed to the radiator, you can see him scrolling through settings while arguing with her.

Okay, thanks for helping me with my question haha, I'm gonna watch some doctor who and get pumped for christmas. Allons-y!

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[AlexBC]

He wasn't scrolling through settings while handcuffed to the radiator. He was wiping off the gunk that prisoner zero left all over it.

 

[Doctor Octoroc]

He wasn't scrolling through settings while handcuffed to the radiator. He was wiping off the gunk that prisoner zero left all over it.

Ya know, I just put that episode on to double check that part because I remembered about the Prisoner Zero goo and wanted to make sure there weren't any subtleties I missed...then I got hooked into watching the rest and you beat me to it! But yeah, he clearly was wiping the gunk off.

 

[VortexRunner]

Assumptions, assumptions GreenArrowHood. The concept art of the prop is about the only time it is mentioned to have any particular function. It was described as being the original position of the slider-slot and that it had a 'Glowing Button'. When time came to making the prop, the practicalities of a glowing button were obviously dropped and a new slot was made to allow the extending feature. I'm guessing that the blue strip was left there as a nice design feature or to imply that was how the screwdriver was activated.

This is only going on what the original designs by Dan Walker.

 

[darthriley]

IT FINALLY CAME IN. But I was surprised to find how small it was. Its not that its too short but its really thin. I've watched reviews but didn't expect this size. Nevertheless its absolutely fantastic! Brilliant

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[Kylash]

Anyone got a fix for the metal head piece being wobbly where it connects to the clear tube?

 

[Risu]

I used UV cure adhesive.

 

[Cadeian]

I used UV cure adhesive.

Vaguely OT but, I've never heard of those outside of a dentist's office. What are such adhesives like to work with? What is the strength of the bond?

More on topic, I'm so jealous of everyone who already has of these. Come on Christmas surprise...

 

[pandawok56]

Just got this for christmas and I love it. Quick question though, I know the looseness varies from sonic to sonic but when extended, does anyone elses make a noticeable noise when you gently shake it side to side? Also mine doesn't extend/retract very smoothly and almost feels like something metal scraping along something. If this isn't common, should I send it in and get a replacement? I love this thing and just want it to be as perfect as possible