MR Fett rifle pics at Rebelscum

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I understand that to make a bunch of thse on a prodution line you have to simplify the paint, but these look like what a comic version of Fett would have.

I'm debating whether to cancel the order or just get it and repaint it. I don't think you could buy a real Webley for that much, but correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[StarWars Collector]

To do weathering on a scaled MF is one thing.
To do weathering on a 1:1 blaster is quite something else...:sick

Very disappointing. Total waste of money IMHO.

 

[DARKSIDE72]

I understand that to make a bunch of thse on a prodution line you have to simplify the paint, but these look like what a comic version of Fett would have.

I'm debating whether to cancel the order or just get it and repaint it. I don't think you could buy a real Webley for that much, but correct me if I'm wrong.

The bronze webleys from a few years back were half the price of this POS. They even had function and a wood stock. As a base gun they were 10 times the replica than MR's.

I won't miss MR at all when they are through with Star Wars. It will be nice to see props made with real talent by true artisans again.

 

[Benkenove]

Woooh.. these are very sad news for me...

I already ordered the LE one, (and paid in advance ), expecting a really great an accurate piece (or art ?¿), and now that I see those pics, I really dont know what to think... I really have no idea about painting, but I'm more than really sure I could do it way better than that, in my first try...

I'm really really sad to see this... now, I can only think on the helmet , what will we received then...

Now, after all this problems with MR, I'm starting to think that maybe, we'll be better without MR.

Let's see if the company which takes the SW licence do it better than MR. (I hope so).

 

[KarlBud420]

MR claims that what we see is how the original prop actually looked:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2667422&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1

:confused

Anyone have some photographic evidence to the contrary?

Bruce

 

[Benkenove]

I really think Bryan needs a new pair of GOOD glasses...

 

[Jedi-72]

MR claims that what we see is how the original prop actually looked:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2667422&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1

:confused

Anyone have some photographic evidence to the contrary?

Bruce

That's balls! To tell a group of customers who have forensically dissected every detail of these pieces for longer than MR has even existed that THIS is what the actual prop looked like?! This is a new high, or low, in BS. Make a POS and then tell people when they call you out that this is what the original looks like...:lol Balls.

 

[Gigatron]

If it's the original ROTJ blaster that was touring with the "Star Wars: Where Science Meets Imagination" exhibit in Boston, I have have some super hi-res pictures that I took. I'll try to post them up tonight.

All I know is that the prop I took pictures of, looks nothing like that thing.

-Fred

 

[Riv]

I was told the Boba helmet on display at the MR party in LA was an actual production version and I think it came out pretty good.
I'm planning to buy one.

I really hope that's the case with all production helmets. However, I'm going to wait till they ship out before making any purchasing decisions on it.

Of course, that'll probably be this time next year, at this rate.

 

[Rogue Studios]

I'm going to get my eyes on a production piece as soon as I am able, I have not seen one yet and I understand your concerns. This piece is exceedingly diffcult to reproduce and create with what each fan feels is in our minds eye the most accurate rifle.

I'm going to try my best to describe the whole process this piece went through and hopefully this will create a little better understanding (I'm at work typing this). There were two engineering proto types generated and those were painted by me. Now we used reference photos provided to us from the source and due to legalities those photos cannot be used for comparison to the MR piece. At that point all we have left to reference/share are the beaters or stunt pieces sent on tour. The rifle was painted using reference on a very nice hero piece which is sort of like the ones on tour but less beat up and it appears to be a real webley and not a casting.

There were many concerns about how to detail the rifle and what would the fans like to have, so I started thinking back to the stormtrooper blaster and like the Fett there are a 100 ways to weather it and mar it up. I think they chose to make it (E-11) clean and I feel we the fans were pretty happy with that since we could do what they wish with it and have something that came fresh from the Blastech factory.

After many long conversations we had several Fett rifles with different details and looks to run all into one rifle. There were some with glue blobs, magic marker, broken pieces, re-glued pieces in the wrong places..etc. It was a train wreck on deciding what we thought was best for the fans. Actually I had send paint swatches and paints for the factory twice since MR (Bryan) was trying so hard to match the paints.

I sat down and commenced to painting using the original colors of floquil paint that was used on the original production pieces. Floquil rust, Weathered black and a few others. The piece we had for reference had a lot of rust on it so I backed off that as well as on some scratches since they were not inherent to the tour pieces. When I was done I was very proud of the rifle and as Brak's indicated I feel they were extremely nice and I painted up a little 8 inch proto for the .33 scaled piece as well and it looks like one of the larger pieces. If I can get permisson to share that I will.

Back on track..they hand over what I did to the manufacturer and they begin interpreting my work which I had to paint more pieces in varying stages of weathering (I was amazed MR went to this length to send me this piece a couple times to help the factory). Once it's handed to the factory for production it's up to the artisans there to copy what I did.

Lots of us here are big SW fans and we like our pieces to be what our trained eye is acustomed to. The artisan at the factory is probably seeing this for the first time in their life and did the best job they could and to be honest I don't evny those folks knowing the scrutiny thiese pieces go through.

This piece is very heavy and just the engineering of the piece alone is worth it in my opinion. The later protos I painted were all metal and beefy as hell and I had no problems with having this piece over a real webley. On the paint work and interpretation "no" it does not look like what I turned over the factory exactly but knowing what it took to get this piece to what it is that is really up to the eye of the beholder. I feel the piece alone stripped is stunning and I will happily post techiques or tips to get your piece up to what you feel is more accurate and it's not that hard.

With this being the first factory produced Fett rifle I feel it's an honest effort and Bryan's efforts on this are commendable he really does care and wants the best for us fans he's a good guy to have in our fandom corner.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and I hope I can share more with you in here.


Lee

 

[stormtrooperguy]

MR claims that what we see is how the original prop actually looked:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2667422&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1

:confused

Anyone have some photographic evidence to the contrary?

Bruce

well, this is the one touring with the where science meets imagination exhibit...

sure doesn't look the same to me!

 

[stormtrooperguy]

With this being the first factory produced Fett rifle I feel it's an honest effort and Bryan's efforts on this are commendable he really does care and wants the best for us fans he's a good guy to have in our fandom corner.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and I hope I can share more with you in here.


Lee

that's all excellent information to have. i'm curious what the mass market opinion will be. RPF / TDH people aren't really the best to judge what your "average" hard core star wars fan will like.

i bet that lots of these will sell to folks like us and get repainted.

for comparison, i've spent around $550 so far on a bronze webley, aluminum barrel, scope, greeblies, etc... i've got probably another $40 to go before i have all the parts. so right there, $600 to build up one myself out of comparable materials. and then i need to paint it.

so really, an easily accessible base gun isn't such a bad thing really.

 

[Art Andrews]

Think this pretty much says it all...

 

[Art Andrews]

BTW, not arguing the build of the gun as it looks very nice, but for the money, I think they could have done something better... used a better technique than the "blob of black here, blob of black there" style that we see. I know a mass produced piece could never come close to what Lee has done but I truly believe they could have done better than this. The MR piece looks like something from Hasbro.

 

[lonepigeon]

The base grey color and the rust seem to look pretty good.
It looks like the problem was masking the black areas. From the pictures it seems they tried to do the weathering like the original - having the black show through from underneath. Too difficult to do with factory paint jobs.

The replica form looks great.

 

[Jingo]

Thanks Lee for giving us some background on this one. I really look forward to your tips on painting the blaster, that will be really appreciated.

 

[Art Andrews]

The base grey color and the rust seem to look pretty good.
It looks like the problem was masking the black areas. From the pictures it seems they tried to do the weathering like the original - having the black show through from underneath. Too difficult to do with factory paint jobs.

The replica form looks great.

Totally agree. I think the base gun and even the base paint arevery nice. It is just the weathering that is killing it for me. I just can't imagine anyone who had a hand in this project and having access to pics of the original being able to look at this and give it the thumbs up. There is no doubt the gun could be repainted and made into a class-A replica, but isn't the whole point of MR products to have a screen accurate collectible? By painting it, doesn't that more or less destroy the collectibility aspect? No doubt that the sheep will gobble this up and MR will make its money, but for the discerning collector, I think this piece leaves a lot to be desired without a complete repaint.

 

[rmschneider104]

Thanks for some clarification. I'll definitely be interested in your tips and techniques to tweak this rifle. Here's hoping you get the approval to do so.

 

[tk421mv7]

On a side note, that guy has a REAL Webley built up into a ROTJ EE-3 and bought an MR? I couldn't imagine wanting more than the "real deal".......

"That guy" is a member here, ya know.

While I'm absolutely thrilled with my Webley ROTJ, it was built before a few of the fine details were well-documented.

I wanted the MR for the details of the base form but I knew going in that the finish was not likely to be as nice as what was done with the Webley. Of course, I was hoping it would turn out better than it did. It definitely looks "mass-produced" and that's not entirely unexpected. And I'm certainly not above a re-paint. Or getting someone else to do it.

And... I'm a Fett fan. No harm in having a couple of different versions.

 

[Rogue Studios]

No sweat and thanks for being so positive back. I want to emphasize the base gun itself is very nice and for the Fett folks it gives you an extremely good starting piece should you decide to rework it and I'll definitley respond to any requests to help out.

I believe these are all metal but I'll let someone who has one in hand respond to that since I'm not sure. The protos I worked were all metal.

Lee