Movie Scenes that You Wish Weren't in the Film

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  1. GirlyGothicGeek

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    Scenes I hate:

    The ice cube scene from Do the Right Thing. Aside from it feeling like you just switched away from the movie to an erotica for a bit and then back, it also just sounds like Spike Lee took advantage of the actress from what I've read on it.

    The "magical flying space Leia" in The Last Jedi. I started dying laughing in the theater. There was at least ten minutes of making jokes about it with the group I saw the film with after.

    The end fight sequence in Wonder Woman. It felt over the top with special effects and trying way too hard to be dramatic. Also
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    isn't believable as Ares - he's not intimidating in any way.

    The ESB scene where Han Solo presses against Leia, she tells him to stop, so he responds by...pressing her against a wall and kissing her.

    Speaking of Harrison Ford... the Blade Runner scene where Deckard tries to stop Rachel from leaving, then slams her against a wall when she almost does and kisses her. Yeah. There's some serious consent issues with his characters, which I don't appreciate due to how they're romanticized within the film.

    What do you all think? Which scenes do you hate?
     
  2. sztriki

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    Ah come on, it did not go that way, we have it on tape. There was plenty of build up and banter before that kiss.
    And while we're there can we talk about the scene when Princess Leia sexually assaults Luke just to make Han jealous? :lol:
    (seriously though, just teasing, please let's not talk about that).
    On the other hand however

    This I fully agree with, I love that movie to bits but what the hell with that scene. It would've been a good scene to show that Deckard is a cynical * and even though she saved him he still just views her as a machine and has his way with her...but then why present it like a romantic love scene when there was absolutely zero chemistry and buildup between them...

    There are two shots I never got in the original Predator movies. The first one with the mushroom cloud...like really...Dutch comes out bit sooty like Willy E Coyote and a tiny chopper flies by a nuclear blast and moreover LANDS in the middle of it...? Why can't they just go with a big boom and that's it, no need for a huge mushroom cloud.

    The second one when Jerry is killed and the Predator stands on top of a building and lightining strikes it. I mean yea, Predator is cool and all but pretty * sure he wouldn't just * a lightning like that.
     
  3. Laspector

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    Well, it was the 80s. If we are going to get creeped out by every scene where a man "manhandles" a woman then we better just throw out practically every old movie about detectives or cowboys, etc. While I do agree with you, face it, that's just the way movies were back then. I can't believe Revenge of The Nerds hasn't been outright banned and made to disappear forever for it's "comedic" rape scene.

    Also High Plains Drifter. Our ghostly hero drags a lady into the barn and just rapes the crap out of her. Then later does pretty much the same thing to the hotel owner's wife. Yet we still root for him. I remember John Wayne was very * off at Clint about that movie. Though, it seems it wasn't so much about the rapes themselves as much as how he thought the movie portrayed the romanticism of the American cowboy. Ah, the priorities of the old days.
     
  4. Richard Baker

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    Regarding 'Predator'- not every mushroom looking explosion is nuclear. The alien had pretty powerful technology- when it detonated it just produced a very large explosion with an updraft which formed that cloud structure.
     
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    That's a fair point.


    I'm with you in general, I just think the scene in BR is not well executed. It portrays like it was some really romantic love scene, that sax is going on...I'm not against rough love either, but Rachael never seems comfortable in that scene and it comes pretty out of the blue and without chemistry. It's almost like it can't decide if it wants to be a rough violent scene or the moment where they fall in love and Deckard changes his view on "replicants are like any machines".
     
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    Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - Mine Car Chase Scene
    I tis like the producers looked at the film and decided they needed to add a highly kinetic improbable action sequence- the only thing worse would be if the film was released today with the 3D fixation, it seems designed for that.

    Return of the Jedi - Speeder Bike Chase Scene
    Same as above, but at least Indiana arrived somewhere. If you take the apparent speed of the speeder bikes and the duration of the chase, Luke and Leia should have ended up many miles apart from each other and even further from the rebel task force, but after a few minutes of walking got reunited.

    The Watchmen - Hallelujah Sex Scene
    I love this film- one of the very few movies I have seen twice in the theater. It has a perfect soundtrack linked to great action sequences until they ramp up the Leonard Cohen. It is so over the top it becomes a parody of itself. The pinnacle of stupidity is when Nite Owl * and hits the flame thrower, shooting his metaphor across the night sky. I love great sex scenes, but this whole sequence is ham handed and pulls you so far out of the movie it takes a while to crawl back through that fourth wall again
     
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    Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - Hated this movie anyway (I got bored in the theater and had a legal pad with me, started writing down everything that bothered me... filled 2 pages), but the worst were these two things:

    1) The Dragon scene. Sure, you wanna make a cool dragon scene, but the book explicitly stated that he was able to do it in under 5 minutes. And all that time wasted could have been used elsewhere.

    2) The "dance lesson" scene. Added in, and had little to do with anything, since very little dancing was shown at the actual Ball scene.

    As for why these bothered me so much? The film had horrible pacing. There were no little scenes of them going between classes, or in random classes, or anything. It was just Event A to Event B to Event C. Except for the existence of the Yule Ball and Christmas, the movie makes it seem like the entire thing could have taken place over a couple of months, instead of a whole school year. If they had'n't wasted time with those, they could have shown us more bridging scenes to make it clear that time was passing.
     
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    Raiders had the truck chase, Doom had the mine cars. It was the action showcase of the film, and I thought it was great except for when the car rolls off the broken track and lands on it again. That was some of Lucas's dumb humor making it through the "That's a dumb idea, George" filter.

    Same for the Jedi bike chase, an action showcase like the trench run and the asteroid field. And I felt the film gave an adequate sense of time passing while Luke doubled back, it felt like an hour or two.
     
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    Having Vader yell out No in the worst way to say no was stupid sounding in Revenge of the sith.
     
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    1. Holdo completely devaluing all previous space battles in Star Wars by jumping to lightspeed through the dreadnaught in TLJ.

    2. Luke in TLJ.

    I’ll leave TLJ alone now. Franchise Killer.

    3. Sandra Bullock’s pep talk to herself in Gravity. I loved the rest of the movie, but her golly-gee buck up little camper bit near the end was so cringe inducing I blew my cringemeter gasket and haven’t been the same since.
    Pulled me out of the movie I was previously buried in.

    4. The fat guy in the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. In an otherwise remarkable film, he makes it seem like a local old-timey mellodrama production. Took me right out of 1970’s Texas and back into my current day non-Texas living room.

    5. The Bear Jew part in Inglourious Bastards. The character had been built up, spoken about as this wild, crazy, and berzerk post-Jew and out of the darkened tunnel strolls Eli Roth who, although seeming unhinged, can’t lower his screaming voice an octave or two. Get some bass, Eli!
    Undid the brilliant hypnosis so masterfully applied by Mr. Waltz.

    6. Speaking of Quentin, in Grind House, at the beginning of Tarantino’s movie, the female DJ chick literally trying to be Sam Jackson’s cool vibe by talking slow and breathy. It was pure agony.
    Made me question if I really could trust that Quentin still knows what he is doing.

    7. The crying scene in Good Will Hunting. Seemed textbook and expected. An otherwise interesting story and character arc went exactly where I thought it would. One of the few times, to me, Affleck was the refreshing one of the two.

    8. Return of the Jedi. Boba Fett’s demise. Yeah.

    9. Emmett Otter’s Jugband Christmas. The flying squirrel scene at the talent contest. It just doesn’t play well anymore. And I never noticed how uptight Ma Otter was before. Kind of had me glad that she didn’t win.

    10. Blazing Saddles. Scenes with both Harvey and Madeline. I love Harvey’s scenes without Madeline, and I love Madeline’s scenes without Harvey, but his grovelling when they are together. I just can’t take it.

    11. Seven. Brad Pitt crying and facing the unfaceable. Brad crying is just a dealbreaker. He did it in Legends of the Fall, he did it here and it’s just hard to buy.

    12. The Matrix. The scene where Mouse talks about tasty wheat and then Dozer comes in far too concerned about the conversation. It was just awkward and amateurish.

    13. The Hudsucker Proxy. About the third time we visit the boardroom. The magic of the Big City 1920’s Monopoly Man Board of Directors schtick has pretty much worn off at this point... which sucks because I absolutely love the rest of the movie.

    14. Saving Private Ryan. When Upham lets Melish get stabbed to death. There wasn’t anything bad with the scene as in it not being believable. It was just very hard to watch and I wish it wasn’t in there. It made me really hate Upham.

    15. Stand By Me. The crawling on the train trestle. It wasn’t bad or fake looking or anything. I just hated the scene.

    16. Great Expectations. When Finn snaps at Joe at the art gallery. Broke my heart. It was hard to watch.

    17. The ending scene where the woman becomes the evil Robot person at the end of Superman 3.

    18. The lights floating down the steps in Poltergeist.

    19. Seeing the aliens at the end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

    20. The demon scene carrying Gracie in Big Trouble in Little China.

    21. The close up on Willem Defoe’s teeth in Wild at Heart.

    22. Basically anytime Quentin Tarantino has an acting part in any movie besides when he played Jimmy in Pulp Fiction.

    23. When Augustus Gloop gets stuck in the pipe in the chocolate river in Willy Wonka (the original).

    24. The scene in the restaurant/bar where Pacino’s Ricky Roma is clobbering Jonathan Pryce into submission with a ceaseless flood of mundane words and topics.

    25. The wine bottle scene in Pan’s Labrynthe. Just hard to watch. That nose.
     
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    Any scene Jared Leto is in throughout Blade Runner 2049 except for when he meets Deckard. Whenever he's on screen the films already slow pace just grinds to a halt.
     
  12. GirlyGothicGeek

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    Yeah, I'm aware of the cultural attitudes of the time. The Hans and Leia scene I wouldn't label anywhere close to the same "not okay" range as the Blade Runner scene, and I've seen many that are worse. They just still all make me feel uncomfortable.

    That would have been an incredibly interesting way to do the scene. Dang. Now I wish they did it that way.

    They really wasted so much time in that movie with useless scenes. They could have cut all the pointless fluffy bits and included things like Winky instead (and not having Harry actually see who conjured the dark mark because...come on...that ruined the mystery).

    Amen.
    I agree with a lot of your list - I remember my friend swearing at the screen during Saving Private Ryan, and no one being able to watch the Pan's Labyrinth scene. Just...disturbing...
     
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    Another one: Though a lot of people freaked out about the main sex scene in Shape of Water, the one that I really hated was the sex scene between "the baddie" of the film and his wife...when his injured hand starts dripping on her... *shudders*
     
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    Oh? Looks like I’m going to have to see the Shape of Water now.
     
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    Definitely the conversation scene where Eggsy discovers the princess in her cell in Kingsmen completely out of left field and took me out of the movie.
     
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    Saving Private Ryan: the scene in the church where they talk and talk and talk, and especially the scene before the battle at Ramelle when Matt Damon tells that stupid story. Other than those two awful scenes, it's a perfect movie.
     
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    Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull - Nuclear-Safe Refrigerator Scene
    Tops even the life raft parachute scene in The Temple of Doom (which had been considered for the first film but discarded as being to impractical to happen, even in that universe).
    Using a conveniently led lined refrigerator could work as temporary fall out protection, but to protect a human body from the actual nuclear explosion and be the only thing that survived out of the entire fake town testing area? An acceleration which could hurl the fridge miles away and then the sudden impact of landing with the only affect on Indy is to be a bit dizzy upon exit?
    The Indiana Jones films are full of miraculous escapes and coincidental events, but this one scene took the film out of the adventure category and landed it square into Toon Town.
     
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    The scenes in “Star Wars” and “The Empire Strikes Back” where Leia and Luke kiss on the mouth...just vomit-inducing grossness.

    If there truly exists anything that George should have been well-justified in “Special Editioning” out of the trilogy, it would have been those scenes.

    He could have had Boba Fett inserted to do a meaninglesss cameo walk in front of Leia and Luke during those scenes, or he could have inserted the butt of a large lizard-like beast walking in front of them, or maybe inserted a CGI rock in front of them.
     
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    Well, as long as we are still on about Luke & Leia
    Family Guy- "It's a Trap" dealing with it:

    Leia, I've got something kind of messed up to tell you. You're my sister.

    I know. Somehow, I've always known.

    You have? Did you know when you kissed me on Hoth?
    Yeah. Well, that's pretty weird!

    I'm from Alderaan. It's kind of the Mississippi of the galaxy.
     
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    Yep, as for the scene between Deck and Rachael, you'll have to look at West World and understand that it's just a machine at the end of the day...
    ...and that's about it;) That forest scene in American Graffiti: doesn't add anything to this iconic movie. Gravity? Don't get me started about that movie:mad: At no point I was involved into that story...oh well.
     
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    I just hated the entirety of that movie honestly.:lol:
     
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    The entire casino scene in TLJ. The stupid scene where Chewy walks past Leia after Han's death. Everything with Phasma. All the Maz Katana stuff...
     
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    lol Hans Olo and CHUY in that movie Star Track. Dark Vadar lives!
     
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    Oh my God, how could I have forgotten the Alice Jardine scene in Private Ryan??? I must have purged it from my brain. I agree. I cannot stand Damon’s little spiel there... hitting every branch on the way down...

    Also, the guy telling the story about the general causing the whole plane to crash due to being overwieght from having armor added to the plane. When the guy telling the story starts having intense PTSD flashbacks about it, I was taken right out of Private Ryan and thrown into Seven where he was doing the same thing except with a half-gimp suit with a gigantic steel bladed weiner on it. His intensity is affecting, but because it is of such a remarkable caliber he should not use it in any other movie after the very first time he commits it to film.
     
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    In Private Ryan I really, really don't like the 1911A1 vs. Tiger Tank sequence with the coincident destruction of the tank.
     
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    In Private Ryan every story scene and the pathetic patriotical message. Contradicts everything this movie tries to be.
     
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    If I recall the behind the scenes story regarding Damon’s tale, it was a on-set ad lib by Damon.
     
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    I actually don’t have a problem with this one, since I the movie really struck a chord with me when I realized how the tall alien near the end of the sequence looked like the kid from the movie, and what exactly that meant. However, I did not agree with the decision to show the interior of the mothership in the 1980 rerelease, as the spaceships were the real stars of the show (as opposed to the aliens), and I really think that should have been left to the imagination (hence why I’ve never seen the special edition).
     
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    I saw Revenge of the Nerds for the first time probably in...1990? Even then, I said to myself "Uh....that seems...wrong." It's just straight-up rape, and literally the only thing that makes it "ok" is that the girl appears to consent after the fact, but the whole thing is just....wrong. Makes it hard to watch the film at all anymore.

    Yeah, the issue with Blade Runner and that scene is that it can't seem to decide what story it's trying to tell. Is it trying to showcase Deckard as a cold and cynical cop who looks at replicants as machines? Is it trying to show Deckard -- himself a replicant -- struggling with knowing his own identity and only (by his callous actions) confirming his replicant nature? Is it meant to be Deckard -- a human -- falling in love with replicant Rachael? The movie can't seem to decide, so the whole scene just plays...weird.

    If Rachael is meant to be into it, then you'd figure she'd demonstrate a bit more pleasure. If the movie wants to show Deckard's inner turmoil, then it needed to do a better job of that. If it's meant to be Deckard being cold, then it needed to drop the romantic subplot. Basically, pick a direction and go that way, but the movie seems unable to choose just one, and so it muddles the message and the scene just looks...really uncomfortable.

    That's actually in the comic -- the flame projector train-going-into-a-tunnel bit, I mean, not the Hallelujah song. It's important to remember that the Watchmen comic was both social commentary and satire of the superhero genre. I tend to think that's something that Zack Snyder didn't quite "get."

    This one is...complicated. I think you can watch the scene and see the behavior, especially in the context of how they've been interacting previously, and the scene can read exactly as it was intended. Leia isn't really saying "no" even if she's a little scared about getting close to Han. Han's advance isn't entirely unwelcome either.

    That said, a modern audience may look at the scene VERY differently nowadays, and decide that Leia's statement of "stop that" and the previous scene about being held by Han and such make it so that Han should have backed off. It also highlights the old movie convention of "Well, sure she SAYS know, but...come on...it's clear she's interested." In the film, it is indeed clear that she's interested, but that message itself (say no/mean yes) is a lot more complicated today than it used to be.

    Seriously. Of all the friggin' things you want to change and THESE things remain untouched?! It's clear that Lucas did not originally intend for Leia to be Luke's sister, and simply added that in ROTJ when he needed to come up with an answer as to (1) why Luke would lose his ish, and (2) why Leia was attuned to Luke's call in ESB. So, bim bam boom, they're siblings, and...uh.....ew.

    That's the thing, though. Both Blade Runner and the modern Westworld TV show challenge the notion of what it means to be alive/"real." At what point is a machine alive? At what point do we respect its autonomy and rights? And on Westworld, the bots aren't exactly passive. That's part of the point of the show.
     
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    This scene in The Empire Strikes Back.
    I don't begrudge some ILM guys (and Ralph MacQuarrie) getting some screen time, and Ralph's BG painting is awesome, but the scene is terribly executed and superfluous.
     

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    I had read the same thing, which really turned me off on Matt Damon for a while. Then I saw him in Stuck On You which really put him back on the good side for me.

    I agree somewhat. I really loved the film overall. I also didn’t like the interior of the UFO part, and I didn’t see the film in its entirety until I was at a much later age, so the alien iteself just didn’t age well (in my opinion) which took me out of the movie. Had I seen when it was originally released, or even within a few years of that I presume my opinion on it would be different.
     
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    If Alfonso Cuaron had returned to direct, I bet you’d have liked the movie much more. Cuaron made excellent use of motifs and scenes that represented the changing seasons to show the passage of time, and as a whole, Prisoner of Azkaban benefits from his excellent direction. As for Mike Newell, I’m not exactly sure he knew what he was doing nor understood how to adapt something as significant as Harry Potter.
     
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    Considering that GoF is the only movie I refuse to watch (and this is even given that I hate the book Chamber of Secrets, but actually enjoyed the movie!), most likely. The only complaint I really have with PoA is the look of the rabid monkey-- I mean, werewolf... But yeah, PoA did really well with showing that time was passing.

    Although, speaking of PoA... it's been a while since I watched it, but if I remember correctly, the scenes where they time travel at the end, the "same" scene plays out at different times of day each time... I think someone forgot to account for the sun's movement when they were "redoing" the scenes!
     
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    Huh, my eyesight must be going bad becuase I remembered the scenes being eerily consistent down to the sun’s position.
    However, there is a scene where the moon shines directly in front of Harry and Hermione, but the moon is to their right.
    Something neat about the “rabid monkey” is that they tried to do the effect practically, but the movement simply wasn’t working despite the crew’s efforts. However, I think the design was great, the lack of hair and gaunt, emaciated appearance really helped sell that being a werewolf isn’t easy and that it’s quite the affliction.
     
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    "Basically anytime Quentin Tarantino has an acting part in any movie besides when he played Jimmy in Pulp Fiction" Yep:D

    Hacksaw Ridge: Soldier takes a hit to the helmet (which flies off) and immediately the following shot hits between the eyes. It felt bit of a ripoff from Saving Private Ryan.
     
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    I hate that scene and that lame overrated song.
     
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    The bor gullet scene in Rogue One...

    Whittaker's acting was way over the top. The CGI of the creature was awful. And I don't know that the scene contributed to the plot in any way.

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