MattyCollector "Mattel Hoverboard" discussion

[Roland]

Roland,

When it comes to the clear combs, I have tried everything my friend. The only way to get an OK look is to spray paint the back of it completely. Still doesn't really work because the honeycombs don't "light up" correctly.

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Okay, I must confess that I never held that lenticular in my own hands or saw it in reality. So the front painting was just an idea. A bad idea as it seems. :lol

Another idea: Is painting of the colorless lenticular really necessary? I mean the board's color is pink. Wouldn't it shine through?

 

[Clock88]

Okay, I must confess that I never held that lenticular in my own hands or saw it in reality. So the front painting was just an idea. A bad idea as it seems. :lol

Another idea: Is painting of the colorless lenticular really necessary? I mean the board's color is pink. Wouldn't it shine through?

It does shine through, but it still doesn't look right compared to the real stuff (you can tell it's clear plastic). The other problem is, you can't glue it down to the board. It's completely ruins the lenticular lenses. You can glue it at certain sections covered by decals, but then you have to deal with it warping and it's a nightmare.

I have tried using pink vinyl adhesive on it so I can glue the vinyl to the board. It looks the same but you get a weird "blotchy" effect at points where the vinyl is not perfectly stuck.

I have spent days with this stuff pulling my hair out! :0

 

[Roland]

Maybe the art department of the movie company had the same problems with the lenticular and that's the reason, why the stunt boards exist.

 

[Clock88]

@Roland: Possible, but I have the stuff in other colors and it seems like it isn't too much of a problem because you can just glue it.

I have a behind the scenes clip (from Vivek) that was from and online BTTF portal when the DVD's first came out. It shows some behind the scenes footage of Griff's gang throwing 3 lenticular boards around for camera practice before they were given their boards. Throwing them on the ground, dropping them, stepping on them. Even the stunt guys used some for flying practice before production! My guess is that so many got ruined and destroyed they simply ran out of lenticular boards/material and threw them away. They had to make the cheaper alternative to keep up with productions.

It's probably why they were abundant during production and now are really rare. The boards were not treated with respect! :facepalm

 

[MitasTouch]

That isn't correct! For the stunt board you don't need any lenticular. The honeycombs there are just simple printed (no 3D). Only the hero board has lenticular decals. And Sommers IS the producer of the lenticular from the original Hoverboards. I think there you will get the correct pattern and color.

Oh nevermind. The pattern on the other site looked weird at first, but I see it now. My bad. You're right.

 

[Clock88]

Edited reply to MitasTouch*

 

[MitasTouch]

For gluing down the lenticular material to the board, how about trying this. You spray the decals with strong clear drying spray glue and stick them to the lenticular. Then just glue down the whole graphic to the actual board.

 

[Clock88]

For gluing down the lenticular material to the board, how about trying this. You spray the decals with strong clear drying spray glue and stick them to the lenticular. Then just glue down the whole graphic to the actual board.

Just to be clear: Glue is only a problem with the clear lenticular (not used in the film but an OK substitute). The colored lenticular (what they used actually used) glues just fine.

Gluing the decals to it is not a problem, but applying the lenticular to the board is a pain. The clear lenticular lenses get messed up and look blotchy (even with spray glue).

 

[MitasTouch]

On http://www.sommers.com/ecommerce/specialties/honeycomb-1.jsp they list the width of the material, but not the length. Does anyone know what the length is?

 

[MitasTouch]

Just to be clear: Glue is only a problem with the clear lenticular (not used in the film but an OK substitute). The colored lenticular (what they used actually used) glues just fine.

Gluing the decals to it is not a problem, but applying the lenticular to the board is a pain. The clear lenticular lenses get messed up and look blotchy (even with spray glue).

If it's not a problem gluing the graphics to the lenticular, then how is it a problem to glue the graphics with the lenticular on them to the board?

 

[MitasTouch]

And why doesn't the site that was actually used for the movie sell the correct color of lenticular?

 

[MrSinistar]

And why doesn't the site that was actually used for the movie sell the correct color of lenticular?

Well, 1989 was 23 years ago...chances are that color was originally made during that time period and they stopped. Or the prop department requested a custom color for the lenticular.

 

[egoing]

Mattycollector may be on it's last legs. The site started in 2008 selling He-Man action figures and they have continued to expand products on the site. Scott Neitlich (Brand Manager) is pleading with fans to buy their subscription lines. Mattel management may shut the whole thing down, this of course is my opinion. Little insight into how matty treats customers, you buy he-man and it is assembled incorrectly in china, backward shoulders for instance and they expect you to accept it and move on, this has happened numerous times. We are talking 20.00 a pop for one action figure. I just don't see Mattel taking suggestions from fans. This is so frustrating and discouraging that they expect a sight unseen pre-order and seem to wing it on the finished products.

 

[Clock88]

If it's not a problem gluing the graphics to the lenticular, then how is it a problem to glue the graphics with the lenticular on them to the board?

I'm not sure exactly what you are talking about. What do you mean when you say "graphics"? We are talking about the individual stripes, hoverboard logo, and mattel stickers, correct? We are not talking about one big decal here. These individual parts are glued on top of the lenticular, and the other side of the lenticular is glued to the board.

The issue doesn't have anything to do with the glue being able to adhere.

The problem is that you can see the glue through the lenticular and it looks really bad. You can stick the decals to it because the ruined areas are covered up so it's not a problem. But when you have to apply the clear plastic to the board, you will see the spots where you have glued it onto the board. Even with spray glue it gets into the lenses and becomes very "blotchy'.

That's the problem.

 

[plasmapulse]

There is a lot of lenticular-talk right now (which is fine) but it seems Mattel doesn't need to use the stuff since the stunt boards had a printed pattern anyway?

 

[MitasTouch]

I'm not sure exactly what you are talking about. What do you mean when you say "graphics"? We are talking about the individual stripes, hoverboard logo, and mattel stickers, correct? We are not talking about one big decal here. These individual parts are glued on top of the lenticular, and the other side of the lenticular is glued to the board.

The issue doesn't have anything to do with the glue being able to adhere.

The problem is that you can see the glue through the lenticular and it looks really bad. You can stick the decals to it because the ruined areas are covered up so it's not a problem. But when you have to apply the clear plastic to the board, you will see the spots where you have glued it onto the board. Even with spray glue it gets into the lenses and becomes very "blotchy'.

That's the problem.

Oh now I understand. I thought you would glue the entire graphics under the lenticular for some reason and then glue the underside of the graphics to the board.

 

[MitasTouch]

Is there a way to get the lenticular on the board without it being blotchy? We need a brainstorm on this.

 

[DB537]

I have a couple of small pieces of the original style lenticular, and you can't see glue or anything else through it because the back side has some kind of light gray coating on it. This is why you don't see any blotchy glue spots on the boards in the movie.

 

[Roland]

I have a couple of small pieces of the original style lenticular, and you can't see glue or anything else through it because the back side has some kind of light gray coating on it. This is why you don't see any blotchy glue spots on the boards in the movie.

The reason could be that there are two different types of honeycomb lenticular: transparent and non-transparent.

There is a lot of lenticular-talk right now (which is fine) but it seems Mattel doesn't need to use the stuff since the stunt boards had a printed pattern anyway?

That's correct! But we have already reached the point at which the people don't trust in Mattel any more and want to build their own board.

 

[YenChih Lin]

You know, I Was tempted to buy the board, fortunately I didn't. To sum it up: MattyCollector should strike out "Collector" from it's name and replace it with MattyScrewCustomer.

Come on, It's a COLLECTOR'S ITEM, not a toy! Who's the moron, who said, "not we should make it like a toy…" You don't play with a collector's item.

I was thinking of doing my own board, reinforcing with styrene plates/stripes on the top/bottom and rim as well as a skeletal structure inside the foam. 15° bend hollow tubes to connect to the kick tail.